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GBN Breakfast July 4, 2024

Rest of the country. So why all this crazy weather . The Prime Minister outlines plans to boost gas power to stop possible blackouts. Well be possible blackouts. Well be speaking to the government on this shortly. This shortly. And in the sport this morning. Carl palmer shines as chelsea beat newcastle. Emma raducanu loses it. India wells, whod have thought . And pinnacle of jump racing. The Cheltenham Festival gets underway today. Festival gets underway today. Hello there. Politics leading for us this hour. Plenty of unease on conservative benches as lee anderson takes his place as lee anderson takes his place as reform pm uks first mp. Well, in an interview with Patrick Christys on gb news last night, this is what he had to say about the defection. It was my parents who had a big part to play in this. I know there are some idiots online saying that lee anderson has done what his mums told him to do, but i think your mothers and your fathers give good advice, even get you even when you get when you get to age. Parents were first to my age. My parents were first time voters in 2019. They time tory voters in 2019. They put their in Boris Johnson put their faith in Boris Johnson and conservative government and the conservative government and the conservative government and but four years later, and in me. But four years later, they feel theyve been let they feel like theyve been let down, the conservative down, that the conservative party not delivered party have not delivered on their and think their promises and they think its their promises and they think wsfime their promises and they think its time for change. Following that defection , following that defection, tory mps are now calling for an urgent course correction from the Prime Minister. There are reports today, though, that Boris Johnson will make an election comeback to campaign in red wall seats. Lets get the thoughts of former special adviser to michael gove. Charlie rowley. Good morning to you, charlie. And look obviously you, charlie. And look obviously this is to be painful and this is going to be painful and bruising for the Prime Minister. I think there are reports around this morning of possibly as many as other tory mps as ten other tory mps contemplating , joining reform. Contemplating, joining reform. Could change that . Could boris change that . Well, i think its great if bofis well, i think its great if boris does come back, if he joins the campaign , then in any joins the campaign, then in any way that he feels hes able to do so because, as lee was rightly saying, it was Boris Johnson that won that thumping majority in 2019 that united the party, united the country after a very divisive period during brexit, and particularly in those key areas, those red wall seats in the area that lee currently represents. So i think it would be great to see Boris Johnson back. It would be great, obviously, to see David Cameron out on the campaign trail. Former Prime Minister, obviously now foreign secretary. Im sure theresa will be she theresa also will be before she finally steps down from parliament, to parliament, will continue to be out about campaigning for out and about campaigning for the conservative party, delivering the message that actually you should continue to be conservative. Its interesting that the role of Boris Johnson, and weve talked about it a lot in this programme, how is it about programme, how what is it about boris . That means people the boris . That means people in the red feel they can relate to red wall feel they can relate to him, because the threat from reform conservative is reform to conservative party is quite across the quite evenly spread across the country. Just a red country. It isnt just a red wall problem. And yet boris isnt being to all corners isnt being sent to all corners of the country. It is particularly this area. Does particularly this area. How does he what is it that what is the cut through that he achieves there . So i think largely brexit is a big part to play. So you know, lots of people in the red wall voted for brexit. They felt as though that westminster wasnt working just much as working for them just as much as as the party wasnt as the labour party wasnt working them. Thats why working for them. Thats why they the labour party they left the labour party behind. And voted conservative. Many cases for many cases, in many cases for the first so think, the very first time. So i think, you winning that majority you know, winning that majority in is the is in 2019, boris is the is certainly the most able to go and win those people back. If they do feel disaffected and disenfranchised by by the party. And but we all know that hes a great communicator also. You know, he can cut through to people, you know, where many other politicians simply cant. So i think it would be great to see him, as i say, back on the back on the campaign bus. And how much of a blow is it, you know, to lose . Lee anderson, former deputy chair of the party. Will rishi party. And, you know, will rishi sunak really be cursing that they suspended him at all . Well, i think look, i mean, by lees own admission , he by lees own admission, he didnt phrase what he said a few weeks ago in the way in which he could have done better. But the sentiment remains, and there are lots of people feel strongly about the issue and who runs the country. And do have control country. And do we have control in this country . You know, thats what lee was in this country . You know, that getting what lee was in this country . You know, that getting at. What lee was in this country . You know, that getting at. And at lee was in this country . You know, that getting at. And it lee was in this country . You know, that getting at. And i think, as was getting at. And i think, look, anyone who leaves the tory party would be missed. Im sure the Prime Minister would have rather him to stay , but rather wanted him to stay, but hes decision. Hes taken that decision. Mean, james cleverly, the i mean, james cleverly, the home secretary, has said that actually, hes made a big mistake here and that actually all hes doing is helping labours other public labours cause. Other public right to trust lee anderson, given that hes, you this given that hes, you know, this rainbow of career, the rainbow of his career, the different that he different parties that he supported five minutes ago, he absolutely believed what the absolutely believed in what the conservatives stood for and absolutely was going to absolutely was never going to conceive joining reform. And conceive of joining reform. And now and utterly is now he totally and utterly is decrying you know, is there decrying that you know, is there a trust problem there . Well, i think theyll certainly be asked, certainly be questions asked, because was also a labour because he was also a labour councillor before joining the conservatives. So, you know, there a where you there comes a point where you say, a politician, do you say, as a politician, do you actually sort of, know, actually sort of, you know, champion your causes from within . Do you actually try and, you make sure the you know, make sure that the party that youre a part of is delivering areas you delivering in the areas that you want you do through, want to you can do that through, policy discussions. Can do policy discussions. You can do it campaigning. It through campaigning. You can do through having a great do it through having a great stints on brilliant tv channels like gb news. But to suddenly up sticks again and leave a Political Party for the second time. And we dont know how it might end with reform. He once called richard tice a pound shop nigel farage. He did go on to say that, you know, if you vote reform, that is effectively a vote for labour, a party that he has already left. So people will question, lees question, i think lees judgement this and just a judgement in this and just a word, on the of word, finally, on the issue of defection, a lot of people think that kind of undemocratic that thats kind of undemocratic because into because you werent voted into that constituency for that party. What has been his response to that, and is that fair enough . Well, i think hes effectively said, look, were not to have a by election not going to have a by election because too close to the because were too close to the general election, and that might just a waste taxpayers just be a waste of taxpayers money. People money. I think, look, the people of will ultimately money. I think, look, the people of whether ultimately money. I think, look, the people of whether they 1ately money. I think, look, the people of whether they want money. I think, look, the people of whether they want lee decide whether they want lee anderson to as their mp, anderson to remain as their mp, as reform mp or or not. But as a reform mp or or not. But i do think it has to be taken a little bit more seriously because we dont quite when because we dont quite know when the election is. And the general election is. And i think, know, people of think, you know, people of ashfield have a to elect ashfield have a right to elect the for the party in which the mp for the party in which they decide not necessarily the individual. Okay. Very much. Charlie thank you very much. Charlie rowley, special adviser rowley, former special adviser to michael gove. Good to to michael gove. Always good to get first thing get your thoughts first thing in the morning. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Right. A whirlwind 24 hours for the royal family as theyve plunged further into pr crisis. Plunged further into pr crisis. Im talking about the edited mothers day, pictures , which mothers day, pictures, which went on show on sunday. Today, all eyes on Prince William as hes due to make an appearance. An earthshot appearance to promote a new platform that bnngs promote a new platform that brings Environmental Solutions together. So could an update on the princesss health be imminent . Lets ask former royal reporter michael cole. I mean, suspect not given all the ferrari over the weekend. What do you make of the weekend. What do you make of it all . Is this done as a line drawn under this . Now or is there a big issue were talking about trust with lee anderson. Is there an issue trust with is there an issue of trust with kensington can we Kensington Palace . Can we believe theyre telling us . Believe what theyre telling us . Morning good good morning isabel. Good morning eamonn, youve morning eamonn, isabel, youve asked cogent question asked the most cogent question of the day. Can we any longer trust the royal family . Unbelievable that were actually asking that question about one of the immutable pillars of society and british life. But human nature being what it is people presented with a fake picture will say, well , what can picture will say, well, what can we believe what theyre telling us . Can we believe what theyre telling us about the woman we see there , kate, about her see there, kate, about her health, this is a very, very bad state of affairs, it couldnt be worse because, if truth is compromised , credibility goes compromised, credibility goes out the door with it. And im out the door with it. And im afraid thats whats happened. It is a grade a disaster for the royal family its not a trivial matter because, were being misled. And that is a very, very great shame. Were always fair on this program. Youre always fair. So lets say that , kate, fair. So lets say that, kate, princess of wales, coming up for 13 years of being married and entering the royal family, she hasnt put a foot wrong in that time. But this time, im afraid time. But this time, im afraid shes put her very elegant boot in a very bad and big black hole , a bad puddle of very dirty water, and its causing problems. And i think michael, i still look at this. I dont know what you what . Youre like my friend, but i look at these so called changes and they dont make a darn bit of difference to me whether they were changed or whether they stayed in. And it just seems unnecessary. Its theres a lot of furore about nothing really , of furore about nothing really, i dont know why she would want to straighten her childs pullover or her zip in her jacket or whatever. I dont see the difference after shes done it than before. She did it as well. And and, its micro control thing, really. I just i just dont see that its an improvement, with the finished product. And so i think its a product. And so i think its a big thing as well about the photograph agencies. I think theyre making a mountain out of a molehill with all of these. I dont know what what we all expect to happen, but her reply yesterday was very curt, very minimal , very yesterday was very curt, very minimal, very look, i did this, so stick it up your nose. Were not im not going to explain. Im not going to reveal the original photograph so original photograph either. So i dont were any further on dont think were any further on with all of this. Yeah. People of goodwill and youre one of them will take that point of view. The problem is it does show a naivety bordering on foolishness, because we are and we know it in the age of fake news, were in the age of fake news, were in the age of fake news, were in the age where Artificial Intelligence can interfere with pictures of prominent people and major events and to think as she must have done, that this photograph would pass muster with people whose job, profession is looking at hundreds of photographs a day and spotting the fakes and getting rid of them, and publishing genuine , authentic publishing genuine, authentic photographs. Because what is happening now , of course, in happening now, of course, in gaza and ukraine, is warring factions are creating images that suit their propaganda purposes. Of course, windsor purposes. Of course, Windsor Castle is a long way from the battlefront , but the same battlefront, but the same principle applies. Truth is immutable. You cant change it if you start changing it. People are going to say, well, if we cant believe her on one time, the next time you tell the truth, it will be brought in question. Its a difficult thing. Trickery of this kind is highly undesirable because it actually sets up the questions which we are now discussing. And the picture agencies, i believe , had only just recently believe, had only just recently changed their guidelines, making them tighter because of those things that you were describing, wars and elections and peoples jobs being to spot fakes, all day long. And it just seems the royals were the first to come a cropper from that in a big way. And just a final thought from you just can i just ask you can i just can i just ask you can i just can i just ask you because theres a lot of the papers and commentary and on social media saying, leave kate alone, back off. Alone, and, you know, back off. And to say, do you think and i have to say, do you think that there is a sense that people are going after kate, or do you think that that actually is a mischaracterisation . Because that theres because i suspect that theres interest because interest in the story, because theres affection and theres genuine affection and people worried about what people are worried about what many see as their many people would see as their their favourite royal. Yeah, shes very popular. She will stay very popular. Isabel. But this is a bad mistake. And i hate to say this to somebody who is obviously recovering and we all wish her the greatest of good fortune and a speedy and a complete, recovery. But it is a bad mistake, and shes got it all wrong on this question of the photograph since very interesting questions were raised about it by eamonn, because im coming on the program. I spoke to the bureau chief of Associated Press in this country, the top person at and she said, for us, it does not matter what the manipulation is, only that it happened. And is, only that it happened. And thats the point, really. We cant we must be able to trust everything that comes out or else every time a statement is issued, a Health Bulletin is issued, a Health Bulletin is issued or a photograph is issued, were going to have to say, i wonder if thats true. And thats a very , very bad look and thats a very, very bad look at a difficult time for the royal family very good, very good. Thank you very much indeed, michael. Appreciate all of that. Thank you, weve got jim dale in the studio. Jims a senior meteorologist , and studio. Jims a senior meteorologist, and hes here obviously to talk about the weather and the weather. The latest weather situations. But youve got something to say on this, this picture and how it relates to real events in the world. Yeah, i really i spent yesterday kind of thinking in my head, why the hell is this the number one story in on the news items right across the board. And its still there today , and its still there today, look, im not into changing pictures and whatever i dont even know how to do it myself, but i was thinking, theres so much stuff going on in the world, particularly on my side of the things in terms of the climate and what have you. And this number this manages to be the number one i was tweeting around one story i was tweeting around yesterday saying, you know, theres, talked about the theres, we talked about the texas fire a few weeks ago, didnt we . They say the worst in history, as heres a picture of the fires in history. And the worst fires in history. And i put that picture on there. And then another one about the somerset flooding somerset levels flooding and farmers do farmers not being able to do their, their crops. Now, thats their, their crops. Now, thats whats important people whats important to people on the ground that the story about the ground that the story about the royals, to me , i might be the royals, to me, i might be completely outspoken here, but it isnt i dont i think its a non story. See, i think there was a story yesterday about east anglia and they were talking about hundreds of miles of pylons, electric pylons, over the country. And it was made to be a great positive thing. This is our race to net zero or whatever. I wouldnt want an electric pylon in my back garden or in the field opposite me and whatever. And we all know it is only being built in pylon terms for cost reasons, because if they werent going underground, worried about safety, theyd be underground. Safety, theyd be underground. Its one of those dilemmas in it. Do you wa

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