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Next month, the nhs is rolling out electric ambulances that cost £150,000 a pop. They have a range of about 100 miles and take four hours to charge. Standard ambulances can cover up to 800 miles a day and be filled up in just minutes. What would you prefer. 7 there was a trial you prefer . There was a trial done of these ambulances in the west midlands. It raised serious concerns about patient safety, especially for People Living in remote rural areas. But that doesnt matter, does it . To the doesnt matter, does it . To the eco fanatics, plastic cannulas simple , effective and healthier simple, effective and healthier for the patient. No no no , they for the patient. No no no, they are too. Plastic. Patients will have to be stabbed with metal ones instead, even if thats physically worse for their health. Women in labour. Take your Climate Friendly pain relief and stop bloody moaning. Relief and stop bloody moaning. Chemotherapy and other treatments will be delivered by electric bike. This is despite electric bike. This is despite the fire service saying it was called to put out an e bike fire every other day, on average in 2023. Sorry we couldnt get your chemo to you because its currently on fire in the road, ironically polluting the atmosphere and causing a massive traffic jam. It gets worse. Any business that wants to supply the nhs with anything has to fill out a 135 question booklet and whether or not their product will only be used if it meets the social values and emissions targets of the nhs. I mean, its remarkable stuff, isnt it . We are presumably just months away from stab victims having their wounds plugged with sustainably sourced moss, stitched together using straw and twigs. Why are they doing this . Well two reasons. Reason number one, they decided in 2020 that the nhs had to be the worlds first Health Service to be carbon neutral. Service to be carbon neutral. Why . Its a flipping Health Service, not greenpeace , is it . Service, not greenpeace, is it . Greta thunberg wasnt going to turn up outside great ormond street and start ranting about the climate emergency. Just stop oil werent going to storm into saint thomass hospital and glued to an mri glued themselves to an mri scanner. Two there glued themselves to an mri scaiapparently two there glued themselves to an mri scaiapparently 48 two there glued themselves to an mri scaiapparently 48 staff two there glued themselves to an mri scaiapparently 48 staff with there are apparently 48 staff with a combined salary of £3 million, who now work for the greener nhs team, and their salaries depend on them being seen to be doing something. But here you go. Are you ready . Like all good environmentalist sorts, and weve seen this time and time again with the old prince harry, private jet brigade. Do you think they practice what they preach . Nhs england executives preach . Nhs england executives spent around £30,000 on domestic flights in 2023, including £440 for a single fare from london to manchester. Theyve been flying from london to manchester. Piss off with your Climate Friendly pain relief. Honestly this is the Public Sector taxpayer funding out of £170 billion. Also another £6 billion in the latest budget every single aspect of its service now has to go through social and environmental checks. The taxpayer pays the wages of the numpties making these decisions, the taxpayer pays the price. If the taxpayer pays the price. If they die as a result of these decisions, and then the taxpayer pays them medical negligence compensation to families of the bereaved , we might as well shut bereaved, we might as well shut down the nhs, open up a giant incinerator here and pump the countrys money into it all the executives could fly in on private jets and watch the ceremony. In fact, its easy to ceremony. In fact, its easy to forget we did actually hold a Church Service to commemorate the 75th anniversary of nhs. The 75th anniversary of the nhs. Ihope the 75th anniversary of the nhs. I hope they said a prayer for all the people who are about to get worse care, because some cretin a figure salary cretin on a six figure salary decided to extinction decided to suck up to extinction rebellion. But get the rebellion. But lets get the thoughts my panel. I am thoughts now of my panel. I am joined this evening by political commentator alex armstrong. Ive commentator alex armstrong. Ive got ex bbc political chief John Sergeant, finalist sergeant, apprentice finalist and entrepreneur Joanna Jarjue. And entrepreneur Joanna Jarjue. John, ill start with you. I think people might die as a result of this net zero madness. Yeah, i think there is a danger of that. And i think youve always got to be aware of the awful truth that common sense isnt very common, and people get crazy about. Oh, well, it says here and we must do this. And of course, all the time theyve got to consider what will the practical effects be in the immediate future. We all know about the long tum future. Youve got to make sure theres change. Its more important in the nhs than any other body. Theres going to be dramatic change. There has to be. And so in order to make sure that its effective, they should already start sending standards by saying, now look, weve got to reduce the staff, weve got to reduce the staff, weve got to reduce the bureaucracy. And that will be one of our tests, along with how were moving towards net zero. But i mean, its a Health Service. Its not extinction rebellion. Its not a corporate body that can afford to do these things. If it means that women are getting all climate are getting all of this Climate Friendly now, that friendly pain relief. Now, that may be okay, but may or may not be okay, but i dont think it is okay. Alex, is the idea that someone living in the idea that someone living in the back end of nowhere might not treatment, not be able to get treatment, because electric ambulance because the electric ambulance cant them. Cant get to them. Wait to be told when i cant wait to be told when im calling 999 helpline. Im calling the 999 helpline. Your ambulance is charging. Well with four well be there with you in four hours. Im in there with hours. While im in there with some sort of stroke or something. Mean, bonkers, something. I mean, its bonkers, isnt know, talking isnt it . And you know, talking about we have a about common sense. We have a minister common sense, minister for common sense, esther is she . Esther mcvey. Where is she . Surely should be over surely she should be all over this stuff. Know, i cant this stuff. You know, i cant believe you know what . Believe that. You know what . Actually, whats fascinating to me, patrick, is that actually the has its largest, largest the nhs has its largest, largest ever record , and ever sum of money on record, and we keep putting those records up. And we keep putting those records up. And clearly this is where the moneys going, because its not going into patient care because backlogs because weve still got backlogs and and backlogs and and backlogs and backlogs and cancer waiting lists going up and up. Soit cancer waiting lists going up and up. So it makes you and up and up. So it makes you wonder is this where moneys going . Come on, joanna, i mean, this just seem bonkers to me. Just seem a bit bonkers to me. Really. Quite clearly. Mean, really. Quite clearly. I mean, the that, know, the idea that, you know, cannulas patients are cannulas for patients that are made plastic, it could made out of plastic, it could actually be worse for the patient had to patient if they had to be repeatedly arm repeatedly stabbed in the arm with a metal one. Actually, was well, actually, that was actually something said actually something that was said by suppliers. So by one of the suppliers. So obviously a supplier is going to say, sell you these say, i want to sell you these plastic ones. So im going to make this potentially. Make up this thing potentially. Im not saying that thats definitely say definitely correct and say actually patient actually its down to patient safety. But i think this is really important. The nhs is a huge organisation like we all know. We know that globally we have get, Global Warming down have to get, Global Warming down to is important. To 1. 5 c. So this is important. And i dont think that people will necessarily lose their lives because this is a pilot. Its not like theyre saying scrap all the ambulance that weve got already. Theyre saying were going do this saying were going to do this pilot need to move pilot because we need to move forward. Its important forward. And its important for global find bonkers, though, what i find bonkers, though, is that they had pilot, is that they had a pilot, a smaller pilot the west smaller pilot in the west midlands, and it raised serious concerns. They thought, oh, were do anyway. Concerns. They thought, oh, wewell, do anyway. Concerns. They thought, oh, wewell, why do anyway. Concerns. They thought, oh, wewell, why didnt anyway. Concerns. They thought, oh, wewell, why didnt they ay. Concerns. They thought, oh, wewell, why didnt they test it well, why didnt they test it out patient transport out with with patient transport services. Go straight and services. Why go straight and test ambulances . Think services. Why go straight and test better|lances . Think services. Why go straight and test better ways s . Think services. Why go straight and test better ways s . they theres better ways that they could nhs be doing could be. The nhs could be doing this but yet again its the this but but yet again its the overbloated Civil Servants in the need to be drastic they need to be drastic because actually to net because to actually get to net zero, its 90 reduction, 10 ofsted and a lot of that is the nhs contribute to Climate Change. I bet its so small you cant even know. Actually it does because obviously to actually to, to look at whats, an organisation , look at whats, an organisation, carbon footprint, you have to look at suppliers as well. So its about the wider. But also youve got to be aware of the fact there are lots of who really will resist of people who really will resist change, however sensible the change, however sensible the change is that this man, this paramedic quoted as paramedic whos quoted as saying, i dont see why i should worry about whether my batterys being charged. I mean, yes , if being charged. I mean, yes, if youre if youre driving an electric ambulance, you do need to worry about that. Oh, well, im im not going to bother with that. Well, youve got to bother with it. So the idea and this is what i tell you, i find frightening. If you think of the change required in the change thats required in the nhs about 5 or 10 years, nhs within about 5 or 10 years, all of us will have to have computers all around us. When were in hospital, well be dean were in hospital, well be dealt with genetically about, or there are all kinds of changes, amazing changes that will happen. And the idea of blokes saying, oh, just because ive got an electric car, does that mean ive got to worry about the operation yes, course, operation . Yes, of course, youve to alex, if youve got to think, alex, if they really cared about this. Okay, the 48 members of staff on a combined salary of £3 million, some of the nhs bigwigs would not be taking a flight from london to manchester if they really thought it was urgent. This climate emergency. Its actually comical when you say out loud, isnt it . We shouldnt laugh because its genuinely serious. This is taxpayer talking taxpayer money. Were talking about living crisis. About a cost of living crisis. And, you find out that and, and you find out that theyre basically up, up theyre flying basically up, up north for half an hour trip is north for a half an hour trip is bonkers. They dont care. Bonkers. They dont really care. Whats is that this whats happened is, is that this agenda, not a agenda, which is not just a british agenda, its a western agenda everybody green. Agenda to get everybody green. Everyones bought into it. Because guess long as because guess what . As long as no checking out what no ones checking out what theyre dont really no ones checking out what theyitheyre dont really no ones checking out what theyitheyre happy dont really care. Theyre happy to fly private taylor swift private jets to Taylor Swift Party and to and to the all those big events happening in switzerland, i mean, bought into it kind of playing it like thats kind of playing up with the whole thing that its of conspiracy, its some sort of conspiracy, the are punished. The ones that are punished. Were else is were literally no one else is being theyre being punished. Theyre just saying their saying no. Theyll have their private ambulances powered by their private ambulances. Theyre petrol theyre going to be petrol for the punished. The come on, being punished. Dont think. Dont think. Are. Emm e are. Of course of course we are. Of course these enormously important these are enormously important changes has got changes which everyone has got to get involved in. Yeah, including chinese yeah, including the Chinese People it quickly, people will do it quickly, including and i know including china. And i know theyve all weve all got to get involved. So the idea that what weve got to do at the moment, someone pops up and says theres a problem because may a problem because it may cut lives. Say, well give lives. You say, oh, well give it then. Oh hold on a moment. It up then. Oh hold on a moment. No, give it up. No, you dont give it up. John, why is it only the but john, why is it only the west . Are we only being west . Why are we only being punished the west . Punished in the west . Are. We are. We are. Ive an answer for that. Ive got an answer for that. Ive got an answer for that. To accept youve got ive got an answer for that. Get accept youve got ive got an answer for that. Get accwith youve got ive got an answer for that. Get accwith it. Youve got to get on with it. Let me. Right. Its except let me. Right. Its probably important at this juncture. Ill you what the juncture. Ill tell you what the nhs say about all this. Nhs have to say about all this. Then on. Well then well carry on. Then well carry right. So the nhs carry on. Right. So the nhs services always put Services Must always put patients first when procuring products. It also products. And it also it is also right we green right that we seek Green Alternatives but only when they save the taxpayer money. The new electric ambulances are benefiting thousands of patients. Reports that benefiting thousands of patie are reports that benefiting thousands of patie are working reports that benefiting thousands of patie are working efficientlyiat benefiting thousands of patie are working efficiently and they are working efficiently and they are working efficiently and they could help deliver annual operational savings of £59 million. So well, thats just about cover the flights. This is what this is it. But then you do factor in whether or not actually in the round. This is saving us money. Bit of background here. The new electric ambulances have electric ambulances which have taken trials taken part in trials can be effectively recharged depot effectively recharged at depot sites operational sites to ensure operational deliveries of services is maintained. They its maintained. As they say, its incorrect to say they would deliver a reduced level of service compared with other methods of transport. So thats what about all of this. What they say about all of this. I mean, theres also the talk as well. Joanna, ill go to you on this things like this about things like chemotherapy treatment being delivered peoples houses, delivered to peoples houses, mobile chemo electric bikes, mobile chemo on electric bikes, the fire service has said that they dealt with one electric bike fire every other day in 2023. I mean, its not ideal. We just have to transition. You know, its never going to be perfect the beginning. But we perfect at the beginning. But we do make this transition. Do have to make this transition. We because we cant just say because one electric you electric bike doesnt work, you know, week that were not know, once a week that were not going ahead with this. It going to go ahead with this. It just ridiculous and just seems ridiculous and drastic into the drastic and just plays into the hands actually the conspiracy hands of actually the conspiracy theorists saying theorists who were saying climate real Climate Change isnt real theory, though, they are. Theory, though, if they are. Well, the no. Im well, im seeing the no. Im talking the conspiracy well, im seeing the no. Im talkingglobal the conspiracy well, im seeing the no. Im talkingGlobal Warming piracy well, im seeing the no. Im talkingGlobal Warming overall, about Global Warming overall, but like, im seeing the effects. Youve just been to australia. Its beautiful. How australia. Its beautiful. How hot was it . So fantastic. It was its so fantastic. It was beautiful. Look at my tank. Come on. Well, no, it was there. No, on. Well, no, it was there. No, but it is. I went on boat. Thats ive away for so thats why ive been away for so many weeks. Thats why ive been away for so ma 11 weeks. Australia to save i swam to australia to save our nhs. Rats on the back of the rats are on the back of the floor. Y its actually. You said before what the chinese before about what the chinese and do, and its and the indians do, a