Already planning for life without mr sunak, and one group is said to want to replace him with a liz truss style leader who isnt liz truss. Who isnt liz truss. Apparently, if they lose the next general election and with 10 million brits fear to be addicted to junk food, is it time to treat it as seriously as alcohol or drugs . Or is it time to just stop scoffing . So much grub . So much grub . Thats all coming in your next hour. Whats the show . Whats the show . Always an absolute pleasure to have your company got a big debate coming up later in the show already put this out on social media. Hundreds of you have respond did. And the question today is this should the uk accept a ukraine style refugee plan . But for palestinians, well over 60 charities, activists and lawyers reconcile, including care for calais. But what could possibly go wrong . Well, how come no arab states have yet offered to do the same . Why should the burden fall on britain and recall when a similar scheme was tried in the 1990s in denmark, 64 of those refugees went on to commit crimes and a third of their children also did. Should we do the same in britain . Get in touch all the usual ways . Vaiews gbnews. Com. Lets kick off the show with all news headunes off the show with all News Headlines from sam francis. Headlines from sam francis. Martin, thanks very much. And very good afternoon from the gb newsroom. Itsjust very good afternoon from the gb newsroom. Its just gone 3 00 and leading the news this hour. Israel has now admitted its forces were behind an unintended airstrike which killed seven aid workers in gaza, including a british national. The israeli Prime Minister, benjamin netanyahu, says that officials are checking the incident thoroughly and is pledging to do everything to prevent it happening again. The group happening again. The group killed were travelling in two armoured cars marking marked with the word central kitchen logo. The ngo has claimed the Israel Defence forces carried out the attack despite coordinating their movements with the military. Those killed with the military. Those killed also include palestinians and people from poland and the us. Rishi sunak says there must be a transparent investigation. Transparent investigation. Shocked and saddened to hear the reported deaths of aid workers in gaza. Were urgently working to confirm all the details, but my thoughts right now are with their friends and family. Theyre doing fantastic work bringing alleviation to the suffering that many are experiencing in gaza. They should be praised and commended for what theyre doing. They need to be allowed to do that work unhindered, and its incumbent on israel make sure incumbent on israel to make sure that do that. And were that they can do that. And were asking israel to investigate what happened urgently, what happened to urgently, because clearly there are questions need to questions that need to be answered. Prime minister meanwhile, the Prime Minister is backing j. K. Rowling after she criticised a new hate crime law in scotland. The law came into effect yesterday and bans hatred against people on certain grounds. But hatred against people on certain grounds. But the author hatred against people on certain grounds. But the author says grounds. But the author says that it risks silencing genuine debate on issues around gender and womens rights. Rishi sunak has backed her concerns, saying that people should not be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology. Shadow minister pat mcfadden told gb news earlier that labour has no plans for any similar laws if it wins the next election. Wins the next election. We want proper enforcement of the anti hate crime laws that are there and make sure that the right penalties are in place to protect people. Were not planning to legislate for new crimes in this area, and i dont think jk rowling should be arrested. Arrested. Finland will observe a day of mourning tomorrow after a 12 year old child was killed and two others were seriously wounded after a shooting that was carried out by another child of the same age at a Primary School. Its understood a permit for the handgun belonged to a relative of the suspect , police relative of the suspect, police say. The 12 year old has admitted to carrying out the shooting , but the circumstances shooting, but the circumstances of the incident are not yet clear. The of the incident are not yet clear. The finnish Prime Minister has said he is deeply shocked and that his thoughts are with the victims on and their. Adidas that are with the victims on and thwill. Adidas that are with the victims on and thwill block. Adidas that are with the victims on and thwill block any didas that are with the victims on and thwill block any german that it will block any german football shirts featuring the number 44, amid concerns over the resemblance to the ss nazi symbol. The new kits were launched last month ahead of germany hosting the European Championships in june and july of this year. But a historian flagged similarities with the logo for ss, which was a nazi Paramilitary Organisation in the countrys association, Paramilitary Organisation in the counthat association, Paramilitary Organisation in the counthat didntassociation, Paramilitary Organisation in the counthat didnt supportion, Paramilitary Organisation in the counthat didnt support the says that it didnt support the similarities when the design was approved, but that it will now be changed. The government is facing criticism of its plan, expanded of its new plan to expanded of its new plan to expand funded childcare rather for working parents. In the first week of it being rolled out across the country, meeting parents in hartlepool this morning, the Prime Minister rejected claims that nurseries cant cope with the increasing demand as a result of that new policy. Rishi sunak says the package of support families policy. Rishi sunak says the pacheen f support families policy. Rishi sunak says the pacheen introduced families policy. Rishi sunak says the pacheen introduced stagess policy. Rishi sunak says the pacheen introduced stages to has been introduced in stages to give time more places to be give time for more places to be made. Prices in shops made available. Prices in shops are rising at the slowest rate for two years. Thats according to new figures. In march, shop pnces to new figures. In march, shop prices were up 1. 3, slowing from 2. 5 the month before. The British Retail Consortium. Says British Retail Consortium. Says that discounts on popular easter treats and essentials, along with promotions on electricals and have helped to and clothing, have helped to keep those prices down. And if youve ever opted for private mode when browsing on the internet Search EngineGoogle Chrome, well, you could. Have chrome, well, you could. Have fallen victim to having your personal information stored. Thats according to findings that a court that have emerged from a court case. In that have emerged from a court case. In ruling, case. In a us ruling, google will to delete private will have to delete all private user data, which was not supposed to have been tracked. The us case was filed in 2020, in america, but the judgement today to google today will apply to Google Chrome here in the uk. Chrome users here in the uk. After the decided that after the judge decided that there be a limit on the there must be a limit on the tech giants collection of personal information. Thats the latest from the newsroom. For latest from the newsroom. For now, you can sign up to gb news alerts. Just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews. Com alerts. Now, though, gbnews. Com alerts. Now, though, its back to martin in westminster. Thank you sam. Now weve got absolutely loads to get through, so lets get cracking. Now could id cards be the way to finally solve the channel migrant crisis 7 solve the channel migrant crisis . Well, it emerged yesterday, theres been an incredible 43 rise in the number of people. Rise in the number of people. Illegally arriving in small boats. Small boats. This year, more than 5000 migrants have crossed the channel so far in 2024. But former home secretary lord told lord David Blunkett told the times reintroduce the times i would reintroduce the idea of id cards because what will happen with rwanda will happen with the rwanda scheme criminals scheme is organised. Criminals will migrants simply not to will tell migrants simply not to claim asylum. Theyll say well get you across to the uk and then ring this number, well get you a job and accommodation and then theyll disappear into the sub economy. And thats the worst of all worlds. And theyll be exposed to mass exploitation. Be exposed to mass exploitation. And then that will affect other people by undercutting genuine workers and also involve modern slavery. You can only solve that if you have a proper identity scheme. Now, that sounds on paper shows your papers like common sense. Well, to discuss this, im now joined in the studio by the associate editor of the daily mirror, Kevin Maguire. Kev, welcome to studio si. My pleasure to see you. This is an old labour idea. You must like it. Yeah it was a it was a conservative party idea. First labour opposed it, then labour proposed it the labour proposed it and the conservatives and conservatives opposed it. And then finally scrapped David Blunketts voluntary scheme. I understand to understand why it appeals to some superficially , but some people superficially, but they other people to show some people superficially, but they papers, fer people to show some people superficially, but they papers, not eople to show some people superficially, but they papers, not themselves ow some people superficially, but they papers, not themselves. N their papers, not themselves. And i think its over promises what it can achieve. I think the money and the effort can be better spent. Id cards existed dunng better spent. Id cards existed during the first world war. The second world war, second world war. They continued for seven years and they were scrapped because people got sick of bureaucrats and Police Officers asking them to show me your papers. Its essentially the bafic papers. Its essentially the basic right of you in britain to leave home without any id on you, if you like, if you want to go out in your swimming trunks or a bikini, you can. You dont have to take your papers to show them when youre challenged. But if the id scheme this time specifically time around was specifically targeted to those arriving via small dinghies or illegally , small dinghies or illegally, then surely it has merit. I dont think this scheme is for everybody in britain to show your papers. If you arrive and youre up by a border youre picked up by a Border Force Patrol at our shores, you have through this system. Have to go through this system. You to be processed anyway. You have to be processed anyway. You have to be processed anyway. You a hotel for you have to get a hotel for free. This would be of free. So this would be part of the and it would prevent the system and it would prevent exploitation. It would prevent slave to like . Yeah, im not sure it would because you would have to be able to enforce it. For instance, moment, if instance, at the moment, if youre employer youre youre an employer or youre a landlord out, you landlord or letting out, you have to check and show youve checked that somebody is entitled to be here and is here legally. You can legally. If you dont, you can be fined very, very few fines. I just dont think people will be producing that. Look, producing cards like that. Look, people are getting on those boats. Theyre not going to flash a card. Theyre getting off the theyre off the boat. Theyre not flashing get off, they flashing a card to get off, they have to have id, they give an official id, youre required. If youre in that position to have id to access services. When id to access services. When youre here, you cant stop people disappearing. Unfortunately unless you imprison them. And people do disappear in the into the economy. But i think the way to police the jobs market and accommodation is through landlords and employers not demanding to see cards. And what if we only gave cards to people coming on those small boats . 30,000 last year, 45,000 the year been this year before has been 5000. This year before has been 5000. This year so far. Thats a very small number of people in a country of 67 million. In fact, net migration was rising by 750,000. Stop the working illegally. Stop the working illegally. Stop the working illegally. Well, you cant you cant work now if youre an asylum seeker. Renee do i actually think thats a mistake . I think we should. If your claim is we should. If your claim is being processed instead of, spending a fortune on putting people up in in hotels and giving 30, £40 a week to giving them 30, £40 a week to exist that would be a people exist on that would be a people smugglers dream. That would be top of the tiktok video. Come to britain guaranteed to work. Thats Kevin Maguire theyre coming now, maguire that theyre coming now, and backhanded compliment. They want to britain. They want to come to britain. They want to come to they normally want to come to britain, get fewer britain, and we get far fewer people than other people seeking asylum than other european countries. Whether youre spain, france, italy, germany, take in far fewer germany, we take in far fewer refugees. But its backhanded refugees. But its a backhanded compliment. They want to come here. Normally want come here. They normally want to come here because they have a family link they speak english, or link or they speak english, or lets be honest , weve been lets be honest, weve been there at some point, either with an empire or military interventions, and they come to work not to claim benefits. Work not to claim benefits. Okay. I want to ask you about another thing as ive got you here, kev, 60 charities, organisations, today organisations, lawyers today have of a have proposed the idea of a ukrainian refugee ukrainian style refugee settlement for settlement scheme for palestinians. I could possibly go wrong. Go wrong. Yeah, well, i can see if you look at gaza, where theres about 2 Million People, there is nowhere in gaza. If you nowhere safe in gaza. If you look at ukraine or a large parts of ukraine that are relatively safe the in safe now, thats not the case in the east. I know you can the east. And i know you can still attacks in but still get attacks in kyiv, but its relatively safe. And people opened welcome opened their homes to welcome people some of people from ukraine, some of whom gone back since. Whom have gone back since. I think be some if think thered be some people if they open their homes they wanted to open their homes to palestinians from gaza. Why not . Because that is a humanitarian crisis. The humanitarian crisis. The government, the government, the uk its uk government admits its a human crisis. Weve seen british aid workers. Theres a massive difference between ukraine palestine. Between ukraine and palestine. For the side for example, were on the side of ukrainians in war, of the ukrainians in war, presumably palestinians coming here a grievance with here might have a grievance with britain because weve ostensibly backed israel and the scheme from ukraine is women and children, because all the men had to stay behind and fight. So you must admit, we dont, if you must admit, if we dont, if we have id cards for we dont have id cards for people come into the country people to come into the country from on are from france, how on earth are we going to the origin or the going to know the origin or the political leanings of those from palestine . Weve had numerous security on this security advisers on this show before saying hamas would, would, chance would, would welcome the chance to civilian to melt into civilian population, be welcomed into britain. Yeah. Does not export yeah. Hamas does not export violence to the wider world. Yes. Theres real issue with yes. Theres a real issue with israel as we saw with the pogrom, the horrific slaughter of people on october the of jewish people on october the 7th, but not the wider, not the wider world. And in fact, youd have to apply for a visa which has happened in ukraine. You have give all sorts of have to give all sorts of detailed information detailed personal information so you you can be tracked. You can be you can be tracked. So youd welcome Palestinian Refugees to britain. Yeah i would, just wonder if the would, and i just wonder if the difference that , palestinians difference is that, palestinians tend muslims, not of tend to be muslims, not all of them, but they tend to be muslims. While ukrainians werent. No that werent. Theres no doubt that in britain im afraid there is a real and its real islamophobia. And its pretty rooted. Pretty deep rooted. Peoples resistance you think peoples resistance to who could be to palestinians who could be members of hamas, for all we know, isnt because of terrorists, its because of islamophobia. Hamas is different, but if youre just a palestinian who they are, we wouldnt have. Wed have no idea who these palestinians are. Itd be impossible to judge. You do it with yeah, well, if you do it with women children, i mean, women and children, i mean, hamas male dominated hamas is a pretty male dominated organisation in the way its structured the structured and the and the hierarchy. Look, you know, when hierarchy. Look, you know, when you when welcome people into you when you welcome people into your country, whether theyre tourists on business, your country, whether theyre tourists in on business, your country, whether theyre tourists in as on business, your country, whether theyre tourists in as asylum jsiness, your country, whether theyre tourists in as Asylum Seekers , coming in as Asylum Seekers, coming in as Asylum Seekers, coming as refugees, never coming as refugees, you never know 100. That is true. But the vast majority of people who come to britain are very law abiding, want to their life here and want to make th