Have all the details later. On. That assisted dying story in many of the newspapers today. So if youve got a view on it, we want to hear from you today. This is how you get in touch. Esther rantzen. Dame Esther Rantzen saying no ones going to force a Health Care Professional to bump me off, but i dont want to bump me off, but i dont want to be forced to live longer than i want to. Your views. Get in touch, let us know and well debate that throughout the programme. Our top story though this morning the government has accused the eu of double standards following irelands pledge to send Asylum Seekers back to the uk. Well, tensions rose after ministers in era threatened to draft emergency laws amid concerns the rwanda plan could increase asylum numbers entering the republic. The republic. Well, lets speak to the immigration lawyer ivan sampson, who joins to us talk about this this morning. Good morning to you. Thanks for joining this morning. Good morning to you. Thanks forjoining us so early. Just explain to us a little bit about sort of the dynamics of whats happening here, because clearly the people crossing the channel are still coming. 900 last week, but it appears that rwanda legislation has spooked a number of people already in the country whove decided to try to get into ireland via Northern Ireland. And that is causing this row between dublin and westminster. Indeed. I mean, Asylum Seekers can do that via stranraer. Its quite seekers can do that via stranraer. Its quite easy to get across the ferry with little or no id, but i dont think Asylum Seekers are that concerned, as you say, because if labour get in they will revoke the rwanda act. So in any case, in any people we send to rwanda would have to be brought back at a considerable cost. So i dont see really understand how this is going to be a deterrent unless theres a massive change in the in the polls that were getting and, and conservatives get back in, which is highly unlikely. A labour nonsense. Ivan, could you just explain to me why having gone to all this trouble that labour would think that it is in anyones interest to bring them back from rwanda . Well , its the law, rwanda . Well, its the law, eamonn. Weve got to comply with laws , weve got to comply with laws, the government expects me to comply with laws. And if they want me to comply with laws, i expect the government to comply with our International Treaty obligations. Now, if we dont like those treaties , lets come like those treaties, lets come out of them. Thats thats for voters to decide to bring a government that wants to do that. But we have to comply with international laws. The rwanda act is unlawful act because it appues act is unlawful act because it applies varne most sections of the human rights act. So youve got two different, different types of legislation in conflict with each other. You cannot also stop people appealing to the European Court of human rights, which in fact it does through the back door by the secretary of state, overriding any interim measures by the European Courts. So its an unlawful act. We just have to admit it. Well, weve heard the weve heard the arguments at length, i suppose you could say about the pros and cons of the rwanda legislation. What i think is new is the irish element in all of this. And now the irish are also threatening to use emergency legislation in order to force us to take back those Asylum Seekers who have come into their country. Thats double standards, isnt it . Thats hypocrisy from the European Union. Until the french take our migrants that are crossing the busy shipping lane of the channel busy shipping lane of the channel, why should we be taking in Asylum Seekers from from ireland . Well, we shouldnt, because theres no treaty for us to do that. Every country who who has a migrant coming into their territorial waters or their territorial waters or their territorial land has to consider their asylum application within their asylum application within the meaning of the refugee convention. Thats but its very sad because it appears to me that these Asylum Seekers are the unwanted, were playing ping pong with them, and nobody wants them. Some of the most Vulnerable People in the world fleeing. I mean, 60 of those crossing the channel are genuine refugees , has been described as refugees, has been described as Illegal Migrants or we dont want you. We, you know, go somewhere else. I mean, that seems to be the attitude of all the countries , in the channel. I the countries, in the channel. I mean, all three france, britain and ireland. Nobody wants these people. It must be, very sad for those, fleeing persecution , to those, fleeing persecution, to be treated in this way. Yeah. I mean, thats the obvious message. I mean, the message is there, which nobody seems to accept, youre not wanted our countries cant take you. Ireland, who had open doors to everybody. We now, of course, to everybody. We now, of course, are completely clogged up. I mean, the whole situation, even in the republic of ireland, has got totally out of hand. And they theyre saying, oh , come, they theyre saying, oh, come, come and stay with us all. Be with us now. They dont want migrants. Look, the countries have to work together. We cant do what australia did. And that the australia did. And that the governments copying operation sappy. This is where all this came about. Push the boats back. Came about. Push the boats back. Lets not have them. It came about from the australian model. About from the australian model. And it didnt work because the australians realised the cost of sending people abroad was astronomical. It was like 1 million per person and i dont think the cost of sending it to people to rwanda is any much less than that, so thats not the answer. The answer has to be a treaty with the eu. It worked under the dublin convention. We need to have a similar treaty that if you dont claim asylum , that if you dont claim asylum, in in europe, you cannot claim asylum here. And if you do that, we will send you back the proper screening wasnt hugely successful, but im interested though. Von der leyen, obviously the eu commissioner, shes saying that they now want to copy our rwanda deal. So you know, you cant have it both ways, can you, that were these outliers and were breaking all these european conventions and yet the europeans are now looking at what were doing, going, oh, that looks like a good idea, isnt it . Look, weve got to uphold the law. You cannot as a government, ask people to break the law. Its wrong. The Civil Servants themselves are in a very difficult position because there was a policy of pushing back migrants and the Civil Servants. The border force said , were not the border force said, were not going to do that unless you give us immunity. I mean, this government really hasnt got a grasp of this problem. The border force are not securing our borders. Our borders are our borders. Our borders are really determined that people coming across by the weather, i mean, if you have nice weather, we have loads of people. If you have a bad weather, we dont. Its not by the, the actions and policies and strategies of our border force. And its an absolutely shameful state of affairs. We need to sack the head of the border force, sir, the immigration minister, and get people in who can do the job, or even better, get rid of this government and get a new government in that can get a handle on this. And ivan, youre missing the whole point. This country cant take all these people. Now weve got all sorts of do gooders like you who are saying, you know, rightly awful. Were these people come from awful . What theyre going through, but its awful whats happening in this country as well. And if youve got up to as well. And if youve got up to as well. And if youve got up to a Million People a year coming in illegally or legally into this country, we do. We simply do not have the infrastructure we cant afford to look after them. We cant afford to look after the people who are already here. And people are saying, what about our own homeless . What about our own people who havent got space in hospital and whatever . And surely you can and whatever . And surely you can see were just not capable of accepting all these people. Well, let me correct those facts first of all for you. And we dont have a Million People coming here who are costing us money, simply not true. Asylum seekers account for about 40 to 50,000 people a year, a lot less than germany and france, for example. Half of what theyre taking can we afford 50,000 people . I think we can. The other 950,000 that you talk about, we cant afford , they about, we cant afford, they actually pay into the system. Let me give you an example. They pay let me give you an example. They pay Immigration Health surcharge for medical treatment. So as well as paying National Insurance contributions for that treatment, they pay additional fee of that surcharge of £1,000 a year. So and theyre paying into the tax system. Most people dont have a huge proportion of net migration is made up of students who obviously arent earning and they arent paying National Insurance and all of those things. But i accept your point about the percentage of people entering illegally. Its clearly a huge problem. It was interesting Robert Jenrick over the weekend saying he wants to see net migration into the tens of thousands. Governments have been burnt by this. They wont pin a number down ever again , i pin a number down ever again, i dont think. But do you have a figure in your mind of what you think would be affordable, acceptable to you . We shouldnt. Look, if we could have no migration at all. Wonderful. If we had british people or settled people to do the jobs, that would be fantastic. The problem is we dont. The skilled, the shortage of skilled workers is putting our economy at risk. The migrants that you know, people complain about, they are most of them are skilled workers under them are skilled workers under the skilled worker visa. We dont have people to do the jobs. So as long as theres a gap, we will continue to recruit people from abroad. Now, if we have a Long Term Plan to educate our youngsters to get those skills , get people into those skills, get people into those jobs, we wont need to rely upon foreign workers. So its a long term solution, not a short term one. What a complex situation, ivan. Thank what a complex situation, ivan. Thank you for putting your your arguments and your counter arguments with all of this. Its certainly food for thought for people. Today well leave it with you. Well ask everybody else watching and listening at home, what do you think of what ivan has had to say and what weve had to say to him . Where do you stand on this . I suspect you listen to the arguments for and against, and you still say, sorry, the doors are closed. Were not interested. And, gbnews. Com yoursay have your say. Your say is there get involved in that. Yes. Conversation and sticking with the topic, Border Force Officials have told gb news of their concerns of channel migrants using children as human shields to stop police puncturing their small boats. Yeah, okay. Were going to talk about this. Were also going to talk about the irish situation. We want to know if you live in the republic of ireland and get in touch with us today, because we want to know your migrant experience. All very nice, all very good. Then it all went very wrong. Why . Lets go to our Homeland Security editor, mark white. Now marks been given exclusive access to the whole small boats operation in dover. Heres what he saw. This is a rare look inside the small boats Operational Command at dover harbour. As we filmed the Border Force Vessel defender was alongside offload another 66 channel migrants the latest of more than 7000 who have arrived here so far this year. Have arrived here so far this year. And this their mode of year. And this their mode of transport large but extremely flimsy inflatable rafts made for the criminal gangs in back street factories. I mean, these street factories. I mean, these arent seaworthy for anything because they are just not made to any standard. Trevor taylor has seen increasing numbers packed into these vessels 70 or 80 migrants on each boat is now common. Its just its just not safe the way its constructed. I mean, this is typical where if there was a cut or a punch in one part of this boat, there was a cut or a punch in one part of this boat , the whole one part of this boat, the whole thing would go down. Makeshift puncture repair kits and cheap pumps are often all the migrants have as they battle to stay afloat. And there battle to stay afloat. And there are very few, if any, effective life jackets. Just show you an example of that. Just show you an example of that. And thats probably not that. And thats probably not just for a child. Theyll probably give that to an adult as well, saying thats going to save you. Another example just save you. Another example just back here is an inner tube. We quite often see them or theyre handed out in a packet to basically, if you panic, inflate one of those yourself and the engines two are completely unsuitable for the English Channel unsuitable for the English Channel, lacking power and to prone breaking down. You look at the engine, you might think , yeah, thats might think, yeah, thats a proper engine. Some of you might expect , however, the organised expect, however, the organised crime groups , they put stickers crime groups, they put stickers like this on their c30 to try to trick you into thinking, oh, 30 horsepower. In reality, its somewhere between ten and 15. Its a really not suitable to go on the boat itself, especially at sea. The surge in violence along the french coast is of huge concern to authorities on both sides of the channel. Staff in dover have seen increasing numbers of migrants arriving with injuries , including stab wounds. The violence that is now shown to our french colleagues, trying to prevent the launches, trying to prevent the launches, trying to prevent the launches, trying to save these people from from putting their lives at risk is huge. Weve seen them attacked with sticks, metal bars , machetes, using women and children that are there to, you know, to, to, to cross, using them as human shields to prevent Law Enforcement taking action. And its growing. Its getting w0 ise. Woise. Worse. This key site here at dover harbour is where the channel migrants first set foot on british soil. Of migrants first set foot on british soil. Of course, if british soil. Of course, if rishi sunaks rwanda plan comes to full fruition, then they wont be here for long. Many of them will be on a flight to east africa , but those flights are africa, but those flights are likely still months away and as weather conditions improve in the weeks ahead, many more of these flimsy migrant boats will arrive in uk waters unseaworthy and dangerously overloaded. Mark whyte, gb news is at the small boats Operational Command in dover. Doven mark, thats a big theme for us throughout the program this morning. Some other stories coming into the newsroom. This is what weve got for you. Reports claim humza yousaf is preparing to quit as scotlands first minister after deciding his leadership is no longer tenable. Ministers have been told the snp leader decided over the weekend that there is no way for him to survive this weeks vote of no confidence. Well stay across that story for you this morning and bring you any updates as we get them and your views welcome. More human remains have been found in two locations in Greater Manchester. After a torso was discovered in a nature reserve, Greater Manchester police say they believe the victim was a man in his 60s from salford. His family have been informed and a british tourist who was seriously injured in a shark attack off a caribbean island is aware of whats happening and can communicate in intensive care. His wife has revealed. Peter smith was savaged ten metres off the shore near the Starfish Hotel in courland bay, on the north coast of tobago, on friday morning. Morning. An awful story that so this man, he was aware he was being eaten, mauled, attacked by the shark. I mean, being in the water and just being devoured. I mean, the chances of a shark attack are so small, but i just still always have an irrational fear. Every time i go in the sea, i just cant enjoy swimming in hot seas because i just always think im going to be eaten well there in the cold season. I as well here, there off the coast of britain. Yeah, but theyre not bitey ones. Who they are. Have we had any shark attacks . No they are. Its because the way the thermals of the world are changing, the sort of great. Another benefit. Another benefit. Yeah. No, no they are, they are, 616 is the time governments set to overhaul disability benefits. Millions of you facing the biggest welfare reform in a generation. Yeah. So those who are suffering from conditions including depression and anxiety could now lose their cash handouts in favour of talking therapies and social care packages. Well, lets go to katherine forster, whos here to tell us more on all of this. Forster, whos here to tell us more on all of this. Do you more on all of this. Do you know, catherine, whether this is needed or not, im just looking and thinking, here we go. Another election game. Make people think were going to be tough on benefits. And, is this tough on benefits. And, is this serious . Serious . They are serious about it because basically its costing the government, i. E. The taxpayer, ultimately an absolute fortune. And the cost has gone fortune. And the cost has gone through the roof since justifiable. Justifiable. Well, how can you turn around and say, well, youre youre disabled, therefore you dont deserve this. Thats going to be a