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GBN Britains July 3, 2024

Entry Olly Alexander says that the Union Jack Flag can be divisive and nationalistic. I thought flags were meant to be nationalistic, israel has rejected that ceasefire offer from hamas and its continuing its invasion of the Southern Gaza city of rafah. Well have the latest and the green party are now investigating that council who declared his election victory, a win for the people of gaza. Should moeen ali be booted out of politics for saying this is the voice of palestine . Hello, hello. Hello, hello. His his comments that are especially provocative and under investigation were about a rabbi whos now had to go into hiding with his family and the green party, im afraid, knew about these comments before the local elections. So they should be elections. So they should be investigating their own failure to respond. To respond. Yeah. Let us know your thoughts this morning. Gbnews. Com forward slash your say first though the very latest news with sophia wenzler. Thanks bev. Good morning. Its 932. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom talks will resume in cairo today after israel rejected a ceasefire proposal that was accepted by the hamas terror group. Israels Prime Minister says the terms of agreement are far from meeting its core demands. But Benjamin Netanyahu said he would send a delegation to egypt today to continue the ceasefire talks. It continue the ceasefire talks. It comes after a night of airstrikes with the Israeli Military now in control of the rafah Border Crossing between gaza and egypt. Former chairman of the Defence Select Committee Tobias Ellwood, told gb news that blocking the flow of aid would have a devastating consequence. The idea that Prime Minister netanyahu and i specifically named him because i dont believe many people, as many people in israel, are supportive of this now wants to close down the rafah crossing, along with the rafah crossing, along with the Erez Crossing in the north and then, kareem, Kareem Shalom as well. It means that more and as well. It means that more and more people will face famine. More people will face famine. The humanitarian aid is not getting in. So this is compounding the matters. Charging into rafah with those tanksis charging into rafah with those tanks is as bad as charging into gaza in the first place. Theres an absence of strategy as to where Prime Minister netanyahu wants to go with this. And we saw things escalate very quickly with iran, and that could easily happen again. Happen again. China is suspected of carrying out a massive hacking attack on britains ministry. Defence defence secretary grant shappsis Defence Defence secretary grant shapps is due to update mps on the cyber attack in which a database containing details of Armed Force Personnel was targeted. It means bank details and some addresses of serving personnel and veterans may have been compromised. The russian president is to be inaugurated today, though the us and almost all eu nations will avoid the ceremony. Vladimir putin will be sworn in for another six year term at the kremlin later after elections that were widely seen as neither free nor fair. It comes a day after russia said it would hold Nuclear Weapons drills, which the us described as irresponsible rhetoric. And as irresponsible rhetoric. And for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews. Com alerts. Now its back to andrew and. Bev. Back to andrew and. Bev. All right, good morning. Its 934. It feels like a monday. Its actually a tuesday. Well some of us did come to work yesterday. Some of us had a nice weekend off. I did very nice too. I enjoyed the rain in particular. Torrential on gb news. We hope you had a lovely bank holiday. Weve got a lot to get through this morning. First time weve been on air since all those elections. What did you make of sadiq khan winning the Mayoral Election . Well, there was this rumour flood swept around as you knew that the tories had done a lot better and it was based actually on shed done very well in the postal votes, which get opened up a little bit earlier, but that was tory voters obviously getting the votes in. But the huge defeat for the tories, a swing to sadiq khan, the swing against andy street in the greater, the West Midlands, what was i thought was really significant in the West Midlands, which you didnt really get picked up there. George galloways candidate , the George Galloways candidate, the independent muslim candidate, got 12 of the vote. That is major and therefore if George Galloway fields mps, absolutely. The election which he said hes going to do in hundreds of seats, then he could make a dent, a big dent in the labour vote and hes targeting labour in the same way reform are targeting the tories. And i wrote about this in the mail. They particularly got their eyes on Angela Rayner. So labour lost control in oldham, four miles from Angela Rayners constituency. They lost because of independent muslims. Galloway won that by election in rochdale in february , ten miles from in february, ten miles from angela in his constituency. So shes got pressure over her living arrangements and the tax stuff. Shes got pressure from these independent muslims. Of course, one of them, the greens , course, one of them, the greens, had a muslim candidate and thats gone very badly in that in i forgot where the green one actually. And also, im interested to know as we go through the show this morning, id love to hear from you at home, whether you think we can read too much into these local elections. Not many people ever vote for their local councils, do they . I think its about. And they should 30 turnout. They should because it should refuse collection. Its your schools. Its all the stuff that we really care about in your local area. But whether we can extrapolate the results from last week, looking forward to the general election, possibly , the general election, possibly, possibly not. Now, moving on this morning. China is suspected of carrying out a massive hacking attack on britains ministry of defence. So the defence secretary, grant shapps, will update mps with a statement. We think later on on the cyber attack in which a database containing details of Armed Force Personnel was targeted, they got details of their Bank Accounts amazingly so. 50. So. Bank details, some addresses of serving personnel and veterans may have been compromised. So olivia utley is our Political Correspondent and she joins us now from westminster. Good morning olivia , good to see you. Just give us a little bit more information on this story. A little bit more information on this story. How has it come to light and how embarrassing is it for the British Government well, essentially whats happenedis well, essentially whats happened is a database containing information about military personnel, including, in some cases , their addresses, in some cases, their addresses, their bank details has been breached by what we think is china with all the fingers are pointing at china at the moment. The defence secretary isnt willing to say the country, but it is very clearly china. We know that Computers Containing military of ministry of defence information, actual sensitive state secrets, etc. Have not been hacked. It is simply this third party Computer System with details about military personnel. But even so, its a pretty whopping breach and very, very embarrassing for the uk. It raises all sorts of questions. One of those questions is what about countries . Other countries who have difficult relationships with china . Countries in europe that america, for instance, will they be prepared to share information with the uk from now on . If our Security System seems to be so lax to allow breaches such as this . Another question, of course , for the government is of course, for the government is what line does it take on china . What line does it take on china . So far, rishi sunak has been relatively dovish on china in the 2022 leadership election between him and liz truss, truss said that she would designate china as a threat to the uk, an official threat to the uk. Rishi sunak fell short of saying that hes just said that china is a huge challenge, something that work and pensions secretary mel stride has repeated this morning. Does this cyber attack change that . Will rishi sunak change that . Will rishi sunak now go a step further and say that china is an official threat . Well, from what were hearing, it doesnt really sound like it. It sounds as though, again, the government is going to turn this into into some sort of fudge. There will be a statement from grant shapps later. He will say, we expect that china is a challenge, but wont go as far as to say its the threat that is likely to incense conservative backbench mps. And obviously at the moment, rishi sunak. Position is pretty precarious. He cant really afford to lose the support of his backbenchers. All right, olivia , thank you all right, olivia, thank you for that. Olivia utley. Well, lets talk to a very senior conservative backbencher , philip conservative backbencher, philip davies, the conservative mp for shipley, well known to this , shipley, well known to this, station on this program, sir philip is he now is. Congratulations sir philip, on your knighthood. Thank you very much. It was it was a very unexpected. Well, richly deserved. If mps deserve night, as you certainly deserve night, as you certainly deserve one, how anxious are backbench tory mps, ministers to philip about the relative ease with which china appeared to have hacked into the ministry of defence, no less, which is the first line of our defences . First line of our defences . No, its i mean, this is a this is hugely concerning. If anywhere is secure, it should be the ministry of defence, and so if another country has, broken into that system with ease, then thatis into that system with ease, then that is a massive area of concern. And of course the relationship with china is complicated, isnt it, because we do so much of our trade with china, but quite clearly they are, are geopolitical opponents in many respects. And side with our opponents around the world. So it is a complicated relationship. But, we cant shy away from the fact that that china is, is not necessarily a force for good across the world. Do we have enough good people in this country, philip, working with the government on these sorts of issues . Sorts of issues . Its a good question. I, i genuinely dont know the answer to that question. I mean, you know, there are there are certainly lots of people who are a lot more expert than me in these matters. Who who , probably these matters. Who who, probably are working on these things should be working on these things. And need to be working on these things, yeah. Look i mean, china are an incredibly powerful country. There are immensely sophisticated country. And you know, we weve got to be on our guard. And if our systems arent good enough, they need to be improved and improved pretty quickly. And this, i dont know how serious the consequences of this breach are, but it certainly needs to be a wake up call to make sure that the ministry of defence is much more secure in the future. And i guess the worry for individuals vie china could target some of these military, these military personnel and potentially for blackmail. All sorts of other issues. Philip. But equally, the worry is that they can get into even more sophisticated parts of the ministry of defence involved , ministry of defence involved, actually in the defence of the realm. Yeah, exactly. Its massively yeah, exactly. Its massively concerning who, who knows what they have access to and what they have access to and what they havent access, what they can access and what they cant. Its certainly a massive worry for anybody whos in the mod , for anybody whos in the mod, anybody who works in the armed forces, theyll obviously be feeling very vulnerable right now, and the government needs to do whatever they can to reassure those people and make sure that they are protected and their identities are protected from from foreign countries. I mean, i mean, this is massively, concerning, i think, for , for concerning, i think, for, for everybody. But, you know, and it clearly isnt good enough if, if the mod can be breached in this way by a foreign power to, as we speak, philip, the president of china, no great friend of this country, albeit i remember David Cameron had a beer with him at chequers back in 2011. There he is. Grandstanding with macron in france on a state visit. Interesting isnt it, because, france are meant to be a great global ally and of ours and yet here he is, president macron consorting with what i would regard the head of effectively, a rogue state. Yeah. Look, andrew, i mean, l, yeah. Look, andrew, i mean, i, i appreciate that sentiment. I, i appreciate that sentiment. I think its difficult i think its difficult for all countries because, look, we are we are hugely reliant on trade with china , and theres no theres no china, and theres no theres no getting away from that. And if we, if we didnt trade with china, you know, our economy would be in a much worse place and people would be paying a lot more for their goods and inflation would go up and all the consequences of that. So we have a very, very complicated relationship with china , as do relationship with china, as do france, as does really every other country in the world, including, for example, the united states, who are very sensitive about that relationship and are very worried. I think what we need to do as a country, and we need to work with all of our allies on this, is to be less dependent on china for trade in particularly in in areas that are strategically important. And i think weve got to work with the us and france and all of our western allies to make sure that were were not so dependent on china for the trade in important goods. Because, you know, this is a this is a big Security Risk for us. Well, talking of powerful global leaders, lib dem leader sir ed davey , is hes saying sir ed davey, is hes saying today that the conservatives need to wake up and smell the coffee back, giving the country the election that it desperately needs and wants. And hes hes going to try and overthrow the government this morning. Is he going to get anywhere with this no confidence bill today . No confidence bill today . No. Absolutely not. I mean, the thing is, i mean, hes got a brass neck, hasnt he . Ed davey theres one person that the country hasnt got any confidence in after the debacle of the post office and his shambolic, shambolic role in it, sir ed davey , which is why he sir ed davey, which is why he kept quiet for and out of sight for weeks and weeks on end. So, i mean, he has got a brass neck. Ill give him that. I dont know whether to admire it or be appalled by it, but look, no, i mean, look, theres going to be a general election. Theres going to be a general election the same way there always is in our constitution, and the Prime Minister will decide when that is within the same timescale. You know, it was ed davey having a vote of confidence when gordon brown wasnt calling a general election and went to the wire in 2010. I cant recall that. I mean , i mean, if anybody listens mean, i mean, if anybody listens to ed davey, they want looking at, to be honest , but but if we at, to be honest, but but if we listen to rishi sunak, those local Election Results and Mayoral Election results, philip, werent as bad as all that. And hes clung to one study which shows that perhaps we could be in a Hung Parliament. That study, of course, omitted scotland from its calculations, which is pretty much going to be a labour stronghold at the next election. I mean, overall, if you were honest , philip, election. I mean, overall, if you were honest, philip, and i know you are an honest man. The results were pretty awful for the tories. Yeah, we got a kick in in the elections. We got a kick in in the local elections, in the by election, in the Mayoral Elections we got a kick in. The pubuc elections we got a kick in. The public wanted to give us a kick in. Theyre frustrated, theyre not happy. Theyre frustrated about lots of things. Im frustrated about lots of things. Theyre frustrated about , you theyre frustrated about, you know, particularly immigration, legal and illegal immigration. And basically what the voters are saying is that, you know, we wanted to give you a kick in. And you have to as a politician, you have to listen to what the pubuc you have to listen to what the public say and accept it, take it on the chin and then come out and try and address those issues and, and come out fighting. So yeah, they were they were very bad results. The only glimmer of bad results. The only glimmer of hope really, is that if you look underneath the bonnet, they werent actually Great Results for labour either. Thats the thats the thats the bit that i think that we can see. You know that. Yeah. They won the West Midlands Mayoral Election but they won it with fewer votes than they actually got when they lost in 2021. They they won the blackpool south by election but they won it with fewer votes than they got in their terrible result in 2019. So look theres lots of people out there who are clearly frustrated with us and we get that. We understand that. But, you know, were frustrated about some of these things too. But theyre clearly not persuaded by labour either. And weve got six months or so or whatever the Prime Minist

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