People are crying out for change and this election is the chance to make that happen. In so many parts of the country , so many parts of the country, its the liberal democrats who can beat the conservatives who have taken people for granted. Have taken people for granted. In other news, nursery worker Kate Roughley has been sentenced to 14 years in prison for the manslaughter of a nine month old baby. She strapped Genevieve Meehan face down on a beanbag for more than an hour and a half at tiny toes nursery in stockport in may 2022. The 37 year old then failed to check on the distressed child and later found she was unresponsive. The found she was unresponsive. The former post office boss at the centre of the horizon it scandal, has admitted making mistakes during her time in charge. During a tearful evidence session at the horizon inquiry. Paula vennells insists she didnt know about the honzon she didnt know about the horizon system when she joined and that no one told her of any bugs. Shes also denied any conspiracy to cover up the scandal and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Now its time for headliners. Headliners. Hello and welcome to headliners, your first look at thursdays newspapers. Im simon evans, said. And im joined by evans, said. And im joined by recently, red pill josh howie and long term black pilled nick dixon. Thats what they say. Is it true . Is it true . Is it true . I dont even know what were talking about. Talking about. Ive had enough. Ive had enough. Well, i dont know. I mean, ive had some nurofen. Its like the right wing version of woke. Okay. But whats the black pill mean . Black pills. Just despair. Youve gone past the red pill. You see, theres no point in anything. Im not like that. Im white pilled. Im happy. People have tried to take me out. They cant. Black pill is presented. Is illustrated as the kind of drawn lots of bags under the eyes. Always a fag going in the mouth. Thats not you, is it . Thats not you, is it . No, no, ijust thats not you, is it . No, no, i just i follow god at dawn. I cant be stopped. Yeah, but you do look well, josh, youve shaved off your beard. Its taken years off you. How is it . Yeah absolutely. Well, you look well. You look very shaved your head. Yeah. Shaved my head behind my back. Kingsley. Mirrors. Kingsley. Mirrors. Ben kingsley, sexy beast. Ben kingsley, sexy beast. Thats right. Dont get me narky. I think i made a mistake, to be honest, but no, you look well. Excellent. Excellent. You look like arthur miller. You look like arthur miller. Any marilyns out there . Any marilyns out there . But he cant write. I got my marilyn anyway , i think we marilyn anyway, i think we probably can guess whats going to be on the front pages today, but lets have a quick scan, now is the moment for britain to choose its future, says a soaking wet rishi outside number 10. Thats the daily mail. Guardian. Sunaks big gamble, and if theyre talking about the weather, it failed. The Financial Times. Sunak bets on a july fourth election, a resonant date of course. The mirror drown and out a besotted the backs of his suit, their horrible savile row suit, although he doesnt pay row suit, although he doesnt pay vat. So i suppose hes all right. And finally, the metro sunak bets the house. And those were your front pages. So, as i were your front pages. So, as i say, a pretty uniform collection there. Josh, well start with there. Josh, well start with the telegraph. Yes, sir. yes, sir. Nick gambles on snap poll. And, this is all very exciting. We have six weeks of this stuff coming up, it was somewhat marred by, of course, the rain. As we can see there, no one thought to bring an umbrella or and things can only get better. Being played in the background was quite amusing. Background was quite amusing. Quite. Who did that . I think it was steve bray. I think it was steve bray. Was it . I think it was dream. Oh, sorry. You mean sorry . So this is, the interesting thing is the questions are why theyve wisely, of course , made theyve wisely, of course, made that decision. And it seems to be the analysis on the telegraph that seems that makes sense to me. Anyway, is number one is inflation is coming down to the lowest figure in three years. Yeah, number two is that immigration is also seems to be coming down some of these, which were going to be talking about some of these decisions are now making an impact. And also that the money thats going to need to be spent now on things like the blood scandal, means that theres no money in the budget. So it seems money in the budget. So it seems like they might as well do it now when theres some good news, rather than hold on a little bit longer, when theres probably going to be some more bad news. Yeah. So that that seems to be the gist of it. The question with the inflation for me is even though thats obviously very encouraging, is the sort of drag time to real life impact on people, whether, you know, people, whether, you know, people are still seeing their mortgages when theyre coming off their mortgages, theyre still paying more, not going to feel rich. Oh, its not going to be a feel good factor between now and july or probably between now and november or now and probably ever again in this country. Yeah. I mean, look, the wetness has been much commented on. I mean, it was suitable for this government because it was an absolute shower and also because rishi is a total wet. So it made sense had he had someone like a flunky holding an umbrella, of course the narrative would have been rich. Rishi gets someone to hold umbrellas. It is tricky. They probably went for this. It would have been Penny Mordaunt holding. It would have worked perfectly. I dont know why they didnt think of that. That would have been ideal on her cape. Yeah, that would have been amazing. But so that was that was ridiculous and just pathetic. And you could barely. Its like a guy trying to youre like, im trying to listen to the song here. Whos this guy talking over . Im trying to listen to derek ream. Anyway, he for some time has reminded me of the rat in flushed away. You know that the people Aardman Animations rat. No, but well say roland rat that was actually trending clearly is a rat of some sort. But anyway, flushed away rat actually gets soaking wet because he has to go through the sewer. So today it was kind of he really lent into the rat rat thing. Youve made me even feel bad for him now. But i mean, look, so. But why now . I mean, theres a few possible answers as well. One, one, theres many reasons, but one, you can catch labour off guard a little bit because they havent even got their manifesto ready. They dont have any policies. No. And starmer says this is power returns to you, which i thought was kind of ironic given hes about to preside over the most radical quangocracy, the most radically unaccountable government weve ever seen, probably. But the other question is, are reform ready . You know, theyre not ready. Theyve not got enough candidates yet. They need to sort their infrastructure and farage was saying today, earlier on this channel that he thinks its a lot to do with him. Hes gone earlier because he knows hes not ready or he thinks hes not ready. And farage is going to decide overnight what to do, which is very exciting. So theres a few points on that. So obviously reform are going to take votes away from the tories. But weve seen evidence in the local elections recently that the green party, which seems to be a not entirely ecologically focused entity at the moment, its the muslim gender ideology party. Yeah, might take votes away from the left. What do you think about that, josh . Yeah, i think they they will. The question is if its in the areas that the left is still Strong Enough to win. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Its always about the numbers isnt it. Lets move on to kenneth arrow. Woman. Lets move on to the remember that Jonathan Rhys davies on question time shouting at Caroline Lucas about the fact that, you know, no election , no electoral system election, no electoral system ever produces an entirely , ever produces an entirely, accurate. Yeah. He came into my mind again recently. It was all about whether we should welcome donald trump in in 2016. Lets move on to the guardian. Do they have anything to add to this . Well. Oh, sorry. Yeah, i think ill oh, sorry. Yeah, i think ill go one then the other. Its not quite all josh yet. I know there are some changes coming, but its sunaks big gamble which is very similar. But, its very similar. Just the guardian , the similar. Just the guardian, the angle. But its not that guy. Its just basically the same thing. But one detail i could add, which we havent heard yet, is that, gbs own Christopher Hope tweeted that some furious conservative mps tonight working on a plot to call off the general election by replacing sunak ezedi before parliament is dissolved next thursday. So imagine that you get in all your letters and you oust him and you call off the whole thing. I cant believe that would be allowed to happen because it would be such a bleep storm. But even by the tory standards, that would be absurd. I would imagine also undermine their own, you know, their legitimacy. Exactly. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Even more going into election with the third unelected with your fingernails scraping along. Yeah. But also the idea that like another leader would make a difference. I dont know if who who they get in. No churchill maybe would do it. I mean, the one thing somebody said this on, on twitter, which i thought was quite interesting that starmer, if he does come in, will be the first sort of not just post war but post. There was a generation of Prime Ministers who were who had seen active service, who remember the second world war. And obviously theyve long since been dead, but weve still had this feeling like theres a generation of tories, certainly, who remember that tradition of being a Prime Minister who had, you know, queen and country at heart and nod towards the church and some tradition. Starmer and some tradition. Starmer feels completely rootless from that point. Was it tony blair . He never did any of that stuff. Oh, he was quite christian, wasnt he . He was, i think you would. You would say not, though. You would say he. Im just saying i just dont think hes the sort of far left. Hes not a watershed moment that people. No, no, i dont think hes a crank. I dont think hes a crank. I think hes a hes quite a pragmatist. Hes a straw in the wind. Thats the problem. Well, this is this is going to be the moment of truth in that were will see. Hes sort of done and said a really everything he can to be in this position right now where were kind of unsure about him, but we dont necessarily hate him or some people dont him anyway. Tom. Yeah, he he yeah. I mean, the question is, i mean, he used to write for socialist alternatives. Hes a pabloite, which is a subset of trotskyism. So theres the hitchens claim that he actually is secretly, radically left. Then theres the other claim that hes purging the radical left. Hes much more of a blairite. And blairs written that leadership manual for him. So lets see, either way, the country is going to collapse. Yes thats true, and we just have time to have a look at paula vennells. Yes. So this is the other thing. The post office, former post office ceo , started her post office ceo, started her three day testimony today and, started crying when the families came up. Its hard to really have sympathy for her. The also the i think the families were rightly still angry and didnt feel it was necessarily possibly authentic. But thats of course, for them to decide, do you think do you think she allowed the tears to come or even sort of urged them to come . I mean, it might also just be the pressure shes under and emotionally, whether shes genuinely crying for the loss of life, the loss of peoples should be crying for her own. Well, yeah. And whether she gets to keep her, yeah. What you can do now is the matt hancock just. Oh, im just crying. I dont know if, you know, im clearly crying here. I mean, obviously im distraught. You just say youre crying. Touch your eye. It works quite well as an old man gets vaccination. Yeah. Finally, we do have an interesting story on the front page of the Financial Times. Finally, an interesting story. Yeah. This is germanys far right afd in turmoil after lead candidate speaks up for ss. So ive only just been presented with this one. Ive been very much focused on the election, but. But what i can see is that its not ideal when youre known as being a far right party to praise the ss, but his point was that it doesnt mean that there was a, that they were all criminals. Was a, that they were all criminals. It was a, that they were all criminals. It says a was a, that they were all criminals. It says a high proportion of criminals in their in these units, but i wouldnt say it was someone was automatically a criminal because he wore the wrong uniform. So its kind of like having a poster of hitler in your house. Its not ideal when you thought to be far anyway. But i will say on the flip side, Jordan Peterson has all that. Oh yeah, thats soviet russian art in my toilet. Yeah, but the flip side, of course, and i havent looked into this one enough, is that theyre desperate to cancel the afd no matter what, even though they are a legitimate party. I think it was quite interesting if you read into it. I think the point he was making, whether or not its true, i dont know enough about the ss to know whether people could find themselves involved in it, but not be criminal, or whether it has been accepted that simply being a member was criminal. But clearly the point is making is not pro ss. Its more like people got sucked into it without knowing. So if anything, as a member of the afd, it would be do you want . I mean, its like i mean, they were made a criminal organisation obviously after the war, but the point about the ss that differentiates them from the german army in which you were subscripted to is that you were subscripted to is that you were a nazi, like a signed up, full blooded nazi. Right . So it isnt like you you couldnt accidentally find yourself in the ss, but that would be so. If youre saying to be a nazi is criminal, thats fine, because there were millions of nazis. No, but i mean, beyond that, hes saying the enforcers of. Have you committed a criminal act . Well, the court has decided that being a member of the ss was a criminal act. So thats the end of it. Yeah. So. But hes saying that for me isnt enough. Well, hes i think hes trying to argue whether they committed criminal crimes in the camps or whatever. I mean, but its like the, the Morality Police in, in iran or something. Yeah. Like you sign up not because you need to, you know, you sign up, you believe it. You know, as we say, somebody said, i mean , im just, you said, i mean, im just, you know, educating myself on gunter grass, who was a Nobel Prize Winning novelist 1999, was a member. Yeah, i think you could member. Yeah, i think you could argue that people were brainwashed , but, yeah, i mean, brainwashed, but, yeah, i mean, you can make that argument caught up in it. Yeah, but still, im not. Yeah, but still, im not. Anyway, he has resigned in order not to become the story. So its thats quite interesting, just from the point of view that the afd are developing some sort of Media Training skills. Now. Theyre becoming sentient. Would that be fair to say, i dont know, maybe they already were, but theyre, it seems quite an interesting its i mean , going over a little its i mean, going over a little bit, but i just want to acknowledge that there is some, like, serious, right hard right action on the continent. Action on the continent. Isnt the holland getting the Coalition Government together . Yeah. And Marine Le Pen looking pretty strong, you know, andifs looking pretty strong, you know, and its quite ironic that after brexit, britain is the only country which is about to swing massively to. Massively to. Were going to have to rejoin to get with the populist revolution anyway. Thats it for part, for part one. Stay with us. For part two. In a couple of minutes, well have all the and welcome back to headliners. Im simon evans. Still here with josh howie and nick dixon. And before we start on the news, a quick announcement. Were hosting a night with the headliners live. You can join us for an evening of stand up comedy with andrew doyle leo. Curse myself , simon evans and curse myself, simon evans and josh howie here. For more information , scan the qr code information, scan the qr code that you can see on the screen right now. Give you a moment to get out your phones and scan that or visit gb news. Com. That will be a tremendously entertaining evening and i was asked to do it but wasnt available. Its a shame because youre a tremendous old stand up, but ive ive ive semi retired. Yeah. You could have limped out of retirement for that though. Maybe maybe i dont have much stuff anymore, but thank you. Well well crack on with these stories because we went over a bit there as we investigated the emergence of the hard right, josh, the daily mail, the first of a number of stories this evening that suggests a possible pre election stiffening. Indeed. See what i did there . I did see we did this, before businesses recruiting new staff will have to hire british workers first under non negotiable kerbs on Migrant Labour work. Secretary says, this is mel stride and the work and pensions secretary. And this is obviously to cut down migration. We have to or in the past weve had to bring in do these visas, special visas for hospitality , vie for hospitality, vie for construction and care where we have gaps. And hes basically saying , you better, you you have saying, you better, you you have to hire british people now to do that. Of course they would need to increase the wages. Yeah, to increase the wages. Yeah, and, just by saying you have to hire british people doesnt mean that british people are necessarily going to take those jobs. If theyre low paid, if hes you know, he says at the end, he says, look, theres no reason why its very hard at the moment to determine because normally in a Labour Market you 90, normally in a Labour Market you go, well, how many is it . Unemployment high. If unemployment is high, then people will work for lower wages, blah blah blah. Its all that kind of supply and demand thing, but that just doesnt quite feel like you can find any hard edges on that at the moment, do you . Well, this is it. Well, he says, look what i see.