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more police patrolling, that will presumably make a difference, but let's not forget that when it comes to sharing intelligence, that was one of the breakthroughs of the sandhurst agreement in 2018, the establishment of a joint intelligence and coordination centre that is still there, what's it been doing? why does the arrival of more intelligent sharing make a difference when that doesn't seem to have made a difference? joining us now is enver solomon, who's ceo of the refugee council, a charity that provides support and advice to refugees and asylum seekers. and we're also joined by lauren starkey from love1li6, an anti—child trafficking organisation. she works with young trafficked albanians. thank you forjoining us. first of all, this is the fourth agreement between france and britain in the last three years. what do you make of what you've heard so far today? i am inclined to agree with your corresponding who suggested that it