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you need to do. you know those pilots knew they were in a very grave and very serious situation. obviously they still maintained their oxygen or were able to get their oxygen masks on quickly enough to fly the plane. that's also hugely, you know, fortunate. they were trained and able to do that because they too, could have been subjected to this loss of pressurization and affected by did by it. so all in all, given the severity of the situation, it's fortunate they got the plane on the ground in one piece and everybody apparently is going to be fine. >> thank goodness. les, let me bring your voice to this conversation. 777 airline payilot. i'm wondering what's happening from the pilot perspective. what's happening in the cockpit when this is going down? >> i'm just getting preliminary information. there's an indication it's a door. i find that hard to believe from the standpoint of these doors are what we call plug-type doors.

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