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won into executive session, and you didn't say the reason you are going into this to consider the actual job. so, now open meeting complaint has been filed with the state from another form or committee member while the school committee chair has said, well, we just said we were going to go in there, talk about strategies on negotiation. >> well, -- >> well they don't. >> they hired someone? >> basically they are replacing this outgoing super intendant, but what they're going to have to do now is they decided to go to the state, essentially the state will help them find an in superintendent until they could then find someone else to qualify and go through the real process. >> this is really bringing me back to local reporting days, when i would cover school board meetings until midnight, opening meeting law, discussion about, that i think it's really remarkable that a surge that really is -- because of a conversation about