i've got to ask you, you're a state official, this is a college student. what are you doing? >> well, anderson, basically if you've been involved in political campaigns before, you know all sorts of stuff happens and this is just another tactic, bringing awareness to what chris really stands for. >> this is not some national figure, this is a guy who's running a student council. >> well, anderson, as a private citizen and as a university of michigan alum i care because this is my university. like i said, this is a political campaign. this is nothing personal against chris, i don't know -- >> what do you mean it's nothing personal? you're outside his house, you're videotaping his house, you're shouting him down at public events, you're calling him satan's representative on the student council, you're attacking his parents, his friends' parents, you can't say it's not personal. >> we're quibbling over tactics, not quibbling over substance. substance of the matter is, anderson, chris armstrong is a