volvo? look, there is no evidence this guy is in church, has anything to do with jesus, and just because he calls himself a christian, mussolini called himself a christian. >> he says we believe in christianity as a cultural, social identity and moral platform. this makes us christian. >> bill: what? that's insane. evidence doesn't say he believes in jesus christ and jesus' teaching. >> he calls himself a cultural christian. who are we to decide whether he is a christian or not? my point. >> bill: mussolini said he was a christian and mussolini went to church, he was a catholic. that's insane. you can call yourself whatever you want. here's the difference. there is no evidence this man was a member of a church. no evidence that he followed the teachings of jesus christ, as you know. they are nonviolent. okay? no evidence that he had anything to do with the christian faith. yet, they call him a christian because he says he is?