>> it was not what he intended to do, didn't know what he would do when he found himself sitting face to face with his parents' killer. but now the words came out, and he realized he meant them completely. he forgave glen ake. and inside him he said the reaction was almost physical. and yet you were now in the -- the one in the position of having to forgive the unforgivable and were confronted at the same time with your desire to see these guys die for what they did to your parents. >> right. >> what reaction did you see in him? >> he was -- he was completely remorseful, which surprised me right off the bat. and when that moment came was when he was, you know, messing with cuffs and was trying to wipe away tears. >> brooks confided in his friends. >> he calls me after the meeting. i said, how did it go? and he said, i forgave him. and there's just silence on the phone for a minute.