not been resolved yet. while the seven u.s. marines, special operations marines, are clearly from camp lejeune, and there were reports, of course that the helicopters at least came from a national -- army national guard facility in hammond, louisiana, but it's not clear that the four army crew members onboard that ill-fated helicopter are also national guard. there is some thought here that the four army helicopter's crew would have also been special operations. you're not going to take somebody who's on you know sort of a weekend national guard rotation and put them in a complicated exercise like a special operations exercise in that kind of weather. so that has yet to be resolved. and weather, of course is considered right now anyway the primary factor involved in this accident. it was a very low ceiling, heavy