move towards privatization. so he's out of touch with older voters younger voters. he's just out of touch. >> well i remember when john kerry ran in 2004. they just worked him over for a flip-flop. i mean i hope the democrats don't let anybody forget what rubio has done on immigration. he ran from his own position. he took political pressure and couldn't stand up to it. so is that conviction, or political pressure a guy that's going to do some wind sailing? >> what that is ed is evidence that he cannot hack the pressure of the presidency. because last time i checked, there's a little bit of pressure on the president of the united states. if this guy could not even hack standing by his conviction for a bill he authored and pushed through the senate abandons it as soon as his tea party extremist base blows in the wrong direction, then how is he going to hack the presidency? he should grow a spine and stand up for the courage of his