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meant to hurt or shoot mr. arbery. if they had a secret intention or desire to do that, it could not be known to him. now, there is another excerpt that i want to play from the minchu video. only one, okay? because, again, i think it shows you mr. bryan's demeanor. it has been suggested by the state that much of what mr. bryan says later is somehow an after-the-fact rationalization of what happened that day. but when you listen to this, i think you'll see that mr. bryan -- the truth of what mr. brian was trying to convey hasn't really changed.