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demonstrated criminal conduct, that is what the select committee ultimately recommended and the manifestations of that are what you are seeing both with respect to the activity coming out of the special counsel's office, the target letter and these indictments, but it is all essentially reaffirming that essential truth that this was a criminal scheme. >> i can imagine it's reaffirming for someone on the inside, for as long as you have been. tim, it was great to speak with you, thanks for making the time tonight. >> when we come back, what happens when the person you're running against in a presidential election is indicted on criminal charges, and then is indicted again, and he has maybe again? a strange reactions at the republican 2024 candidates coming up. coming up.