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when i was in high school i always said, for 2000 years, from the time of jesus's birth through, not the breakup of the beatles, but the breakup of the eagles! [laughter] like, evangelicals were pro-choice. they were pro-choice, and then you had weirich and terry falwell going, we have a southern baptist democrat, we have to separate southerners and catholics from the sky. and so they said, we will make up abortion as a religious issue, and they did. just like that. >> it's a political strategy. >> it was a political strategy. 1979, jimmy carter. >> so we got to the stage in america where i think it's more than half of republicans who think that america should be a strictly christian country, which again, seems to go against what was written in your constitution, the whole idea of america for those people who are being persecuted. talk about how that message is