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again, like we saw deteriorate in 2016 to third-party voting and not turning out. but it coalesced around him in 2020 with this young diverse group of voters and younger voters sort of coalescing around him and taking him across the finish line. but i think it comes down to what are these younger more diverse voters going to do. but also from an argument standpoint i agree with jim, i think donald trump has a ceiling of 46, 47%. we've seen this in several elections. it's hard for him to get above that ceiling given what you just said about him, given he's been indicted, he's got civil assault lawsuit against him, he's paid off porn stars. so there's a lot of arguments for -- against him. and look, when you talk to that swing voter, that mom in suburban philadelphia or that mom in the suburbs outside of atlanta who will largely determine this election, it's

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