"What kinds of witnesses?" Lukings asked from her seat in the virtual meeting. But she no longer had permission to speak and said her video link was muted. After a 40-minute adjournment, during which time Lukings said MPs were shouting at each other, the meeting abruptly ended. "You're sitting there in front of all these people who you know are in Parliament who can mute you, who can all of a sudden say, 'No more talking. We have to cut off the feed ... No, you don't get to ask any questions, no, you don't get to know why,' " she said in an interview.