Transcripts For IRINN 20240704

We will start the debate, if you allow mr. Yousefi, because of his age , we will start the debate with mr. Laouti, sir, at the beginning of the debate , i would like you to explain what powers the government can give to the municipalities , and what is our discussion about today. Range it is one of the powers of the government that municipalities can take over. Well, in the name of allah , the most merciful, the most merciful, i am a servant of his excellency, my master, mr. Yousefi, and all the viewers, i offer my courtesy and greetings. Well, this is our belief. It is not my belief, it is the belief of sovereignty. Governments should be themselves, mr. Shayan mehr, they should make themselves small. Let me give an example this year. Dear mr. Yousefi hestar, there is a budget bill that the government gave this year to the ministry of finance, the general budget of the government is 240 thousand billion tomans. Of this number , there have been some changes in the parliament, which i will not pay, so 2400 one thousand billion tomans, 380 thousand billion tomans, the government said that i want to do construction work, but for this 380 thousand billion tomans, it also wants 240 thousand billion tomans of bonds. What does it mean to publish it . It means 100 percent of our oil revenue and 100 percent tax which next year is really 50 percent. There is no point in discussing it here. It has been increased. The government should spend it on itself, so the government should give up as much as it can. Now i will pay for some municipalities, however much. If the way is one of the ways to save this country from the prevailing economic debates. Right now, 80 of our economy is in the hands of the government, 20 in the hands of the government, what are the negative consequences it is in its place, so pashas government should withdraw from the countrys economy, hand over the amount of authority it can to the municipalities to the private sector , and let the government come and Pay Attention to 3 principles, guide , support, monitor, not let the government come, now i am here. I saw that mr. Ayeni, the head of urban regeneration, was talking, so what is the need, i do not understand at all, for example, for example, in 20 cities, they should follow the discussion of urban regeneration, all of them are halffinished, including now in my city itself, during the periods that i am like i was lucky enough to have a project in our city when i was in the eighth, ninth and tenth grades they are half working here, well, it would not be better if we gave the same money to the city council. I leave it to the municipality to summarize from the first part of my presentation. You see, the imam gave a quick order at the very beginning. They say, sir , for the sake of popular governance , they emphasize quickly, quickly, you should take immediate action on the formation of councils in any case. Well, really, this is an order , it is emphasized in the law of the Third Program, in the law of the fourth program, in the law of the fifth program, in the sixth program, in the seventh program , we do not want to say that it is a new discussion at all. It is for the government to take over the enterprises that can be handed over to the municipalities. Leave it to the municipalities. Well, now , i have a hint, a reason in line with the law of the third plan. There was a resolution by mr. Yousefi, the law of the Supreme Administrative Council in 2002, separating 23 duties , delegating 14 duties, that is, for example, 14 duties that could be delegated, delegating this resolution on 2 27 1402. Creation of presentation of Public Libraries about half of the municipalities are managing their own libraries , that is, our councils, our municipalities have not really reached a growth and crystallisation to manage their own city libraries. Theaters, local museums , art cultural centers, establishment of offices related to tourism facilities, etc. , there are other issues that i will continue, or, for example, forest lands, Natural Resources inside the cities, why Natural Resources now, for example, a forest space inside the cities we have, so why should this type be given to the municipalities, the municipalities should turn it into a public space and people can use it as a park, so i am in the first part. I request and conclude that we use mr. Yousefis request. So, the summary of my presentation is this, this was the quick order of the imams leadership, at the very beginning of the revolution , they pointed to popular rule, popular rule, later , in this regard, the constitution in principle 101 12 13 , in this way, we should go to principle 100. Presence of activity in social and cultural construction activities. Now our councils are actually municipal councils, not city councils. These principles of the constitution have not really been implemented. Now i will continue to serve you, thank you very much, mr. Lati. Excuse me, mr. Yousefi, we are at your service. Lets hear your point of view. In the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful. I also say hello and have a good time. To you, the great nation of iran, and to my own brother , mr. Lavoti, in this 11th round of serving the people , we have used the experiences of my dear brother, mr. Lovahototi, in many debates, and now there is no debate, more be safe , i am here because it is my first appearance. I would also like to thank the people of the constituency for trusting me again. I will say a few things. To be means we dont want to be in the field of performance lets go, i mean, i have heard the words of my brother and my brother, mr. Lahoti. Lets say that in the field of legislation , now we have the opportunity to make reforms , then in the field of implementation and in the field of supervision , what should be done from the perspective of the duty of representation, now we are discussing the transfer of unit management a city belongs to the municipalities as a matter of discussion, well, we are currently based on the law of 133, which is more than 70 years old, because of course this is also one of the problems of the municipal law related to 1334, is it based on the municipality, the municipality, or the association . The city is even responsible for providing the peoples needs according to the law they have been the municipality, now if someone is a little bit, now the time is somehow our adolescence and childhood, the municipality , the public bathroom, health, a lot of this. The issues are also handled by the municipality. Over time, the role of the government increased. I want to go to the problem, that is , if we want to go to the law, if we want to go , we have no problem in the area of ​​legislation. The problem is in the area of ​​implementation. Someone says that we did not hand over to the municipality at all, which is definitely not accurate. Someone else says that it is not the conditions , which means that we need a law to introduce it. Selection lets change the mayors. The next point of the Council Election law should be changed. I am saying the majlis right here and my expectation is that if it is me or other colleagues, if they go to the shura commission, they will amend the shura election law. The first point is the conflict of interests, why confirm the competence of Council Elections and hold Council Elections from the perspective of supervision and not from the perspective of the executive board with the parliamentarians. Well , this is not the duty of a member of parliament, this is the First Authority that i myself say , as a representative who is in the 11th term and serving the people, we should be the first in the twelfth term. Lets correct this point. That is, we should amend the law on holding Council Elections , we agree with the use of entrusting the work to the people and the council , but with this method we do not have a mechanism , we should use more of the elites capacity , we should not create restrictions. We have 1,200 cities , small towns and cities with less than 50,000 people. The fact that we are constantly changing mayors means that we have to take into account the authority of the council and allow the work of the council to be delegated to the council, which is the exact point that it was said that we are now the Mayors Council , not the city council, but because of all this management weakness that has caused peoples rights , it means that the laws must be amended. This is our direction. Lets give gas, health services, health houses and the like to the municipalities with this capacity. There is no such capacity in the councils and municipalities. Now, the next point is that i think this is an introduction. Great, if you allow me to share our point, then at the door i agree with the one who says never manage. People keep saying that the municipality makes asphalt, a Service Machine comes there and digs, this is a saying that is said many times , which is also true, that is , there is not a gap in Service Delivery in the city, but the point is that it has capacity now, the experience of years in the past, some work has been handed over. My first point is that i have problems with governments, when based on article 12 , we said to remove obstacles in production, to develop Public Transportation, which is directly related to peoples health, to reduce pollution in cities, which is one of the new problems and challenges of cities, especially big cities. Are there cities or cheap services in the field of Public Transportation, taxis, buses, vans, and subways . Well, the government should come here and provide 50 of it , but this was not done. In the past years, yes, in this government , a series of events happened with the support of the parliament. I want to say that our concern is that there should be no infrastructure , and the second is that these handovers should only be done. The government will take from tomorrow in these 1400 cities in the country, from small cities to the city of tehran, which has a few million people, maybe less than 700 of these cities will have an official Sewage Network. To have it means that half of them do not have Sewage Network from tomorrow, that is, the municipalities and so on villagers are going to develop the Sewage Network as well. Imposing more costs on the people, since the municipalities have been selfgoverning since 1967 , they have to provide their own resources. Mr. Yousefi, you say that the reason for the absence of zarb is that the municipalities should not get the budget. One is that from tomorrow the same thing was said, we told the bookstores to take half percent from the municipalities and villages and give it to the bookstores. Well, the administration should have given the library to the municipality itself, now we get the money , in the sixth plan we said that the driving directions are the infrastructure and provision of police stations, and in a way, the metropolitan cities and municipalities will be responsible for managing it, but now it is managed by the administration well coordinated traffic of this manager. For example, the Traffic Commander is cooperating with the municipality, and now we had a situation where there was no coordination, i. E. Infrastructure, a cost was imposed on the municipality, but there was no traffic management. From my god, i will deliver fazel water from tomorrow. This fight between surface water and fazel water is due to rains in the cities, especially the southern cities of the southern provinces. The law did not say that you are the resources everywhere, the law said that with the resources, now, if the government is spending money on waste, for example, it has to give its resources , sir. You also mentioned that now in the discussion of subways and train cities, the government is obligated to pay 50 of the cost. If the government defaults in some places, you and i , as supervisors, must go and grab the governments collar. Look , we have to accept the essence of the matter, now you are on your own. You mentioned that why do we think libraries now , mr. Yusuffi, people, see, we say, sir, we are the system. The Islamic Republic is a democratic system and we have to give the Government Authority in decisions and let the people make their own decisions. Why do we think that people who have not reached maturity cant really make decisions for themselves . The government should be like a child. As you know, when the government comes to take over anothers office, in any case, the current expenses of the government go up due to corruption. There are thousands of other issues in it, there is no corruption, i dont want to say, i dont want to i will ask you about corruption. I will ask you. I will say that there is corruption in the municipality. I will say that there is no corruption in the government. No, this is not my point. Therefore, the discussion of corruption that we say is the only way. Removing the concrete wall between the people and this ruler is between the government and the people, everything must be done if we really want the issue of corruption to be eradicated in the country, people must remove this concrete wall, let there be a glass wall. The government and councils should allow it i want to tell you the first part , so i am worried about providing the resources that your excellency said. I am worried about what the experience has been so far. Whatever we have done, the government has turned its back on it , or you and i should take over the government. This is mr. Aayini , the same mr. Aayini who came. In 10 governments, thousands of billions of tomans have been given to mr. He has come to different cities for four projects based on pressure. If i pressed, i could get an amount. The injustice of the explanation starts here, and all my projects are abandoned one after the other, halffinished. Finally, we we say, sir, this government should give you the city train. I am asking you, mr. Yusuffi. The municipalities are not running the same city train. And todays quote, our discussion is whether it can be implemented or not. You can see now to make the point. I was the head of the urban management faction for many years. I went to visit most of the cities in the country. Most of our cities have the ability to be implemented, but it may have limited resources. Your implementation was accepted until it was discussed. You now said that the municipality and ahvaz city council. Mr. Yousefi, what is our discussion today, mr. Yousefi, our discussion is that if the government has that financial ability , i agree with you completely. Is it enforceable or not , mr. Yusuffi . They did not provide water to the people according to the law. Did they have all the powers . Yes, according to mr. Shayans law, according to the law of municipalities in 1334 , sir, they provide water to the people and electricity to the people. They provide the health of the people, we have to say that at that time , you only had 11 of the city, okay, we have your ability, your scientific and intellectual ability is 13, 34. After this increase in intellectual multiplication that has been added, the increase in scientific ability that has been added, you can see this too, i am two three. To make the point, im all right now, you have to tell me to see. For example, now we are the water and Sewage Companies , mr. Xian, mr. Mandes, and i am his financial concern form as my teacher. I really agree with mr. Yousefi. Now lets say that these Water Companies and fazalb are Electricity Companies and they are loss making companies. What is their job in producing water . Water production, next, next, the government , the Water Organization, produces water, sells water to the Water Company , and fazalb Water Company, and the Water Company , buys water from the water producer, whether it is the Water Organization or the government , sells it to whom, to the people, to the people of the Electricity Distribution company. This is the electricity installation company, the regional Electricity Organization , which is the government, produces it and sells it to the Electricity Distribution company. The Electricity Distribution Company Sells this electricity to the people. Let us give the management of these to the councils , our councils are not at least the summary council of the municipality. The department of enterprises and trades of your government has this man, this is the resolution. The resolution in the law of the third, fourth, fifth , sixth , and seventh plan is emphasized. Our topics should be that you and i have come to a common understanding about councils and municipalities. They have the office, but there is a concern called financial resources, we have to discuss it together , sir, i think we mentioned the rules, i think this november, in the review of the seventh layer of the representatives , they opposed the creation of a uniform urban Services System in the Double Program , a twourgent plan and a few minutes later, i will share a few points, while thanking my brother , i wont say compliments, mr. Lahouti, we have used his topics for years. We did, and these are not more of a debate, i have four points, sir lahouti, in order to be able to reach a conclusion in the end, i am saying headlines that his highness is one thing that we now want to make reforms in the field of law because of you and me, i want to see if we have a weak law or not. Lets go one by one, the capacity of the rules, now we may have some points in the implementation, but they are beyond our duty. Yes, if you and i stand together , we will put bonds in the budget of 18 thousand billion tomans for the development of metro and bus Public Transportation with the problems we have in providing buses inside the country and we will not allow imports. Yes, these are the facts that people are facing now, and today, 9 thousand billion tomans are left in these two or three days. By the end of the year, the secret resolution of the parliament will not be communicated. 9 thousand billion tomans will be communicated. These are our problems in the implementation. It is true that we have stopped about 200 buses in these two years. We want to add to the fleet, but after 10 years , these are the facts , so we have to make some decisions based on those facts , and we have the capacity for empty laws. The law of 1334 Gave Authority to the municipality, why didnt it . The first point is that we now lets go back again. I think one of them is that at that time, there were no facilities, but the urbanization was less than 10 . The city was also very different, and the growth that took place in the holy system of the Islamic Republic in the cities and villages is not comparable. This is a second point. Lets see now. First, the current laws must be an introduction to the city authorities and the councils themselves. The current laws must definitely be amended. The part of the council should be increased, the part of it should be that they are disaffected , lets decide today that the mayor will come , i will not tell the people why we elected the mayor at all. The law of the Third Program he gave an assignment to the Supreme Administrative Council on 27 2 1382, in the same direction , he has assigned 4 to 20 out of 23 tasks , 14 tasks. In that trip, the government officials are not ready, not from this power, but you and i are sitting here as the peoples representatives , we want to solve the peoples problem. We have to change the laws, really , the city and Village Councils are doing jihad at all services are in the city and the countryside, the government is killing itself , for example, in a province, it wants a hospital for 12 years , but the city personnel are more than 350,000 people daily, who are now in my hands, they are neglecting the city , from cleaning to parks and other issues, i. E. Civil engineering. It is in the city, but we want to solve their problems for the people , not create a problem for their problems. First of all, some of the current laws must be amended. Get advice from representatives i myself am saying this, that in practice, we do not have these branches , sometimes it is a conflict and contradiction. I am saying this. The holding of shura elections has nothing to do with the representative, so why should the first law be amended in the previous parliament, as we said this. Take authority from the representatives to appoint a second one for the Council Elections, while we agree to choose and hand over the work to the people in the village and city as the peoples trustee, but lets put an index. It should not be like this, someone without urban experience will come and take over the city. After a while , there are criminals everywhere. After a while, people will ask questions. Why is it that in one term of council or municipality or in a village, we have seen 5 mayors change in 4 years and 4 superintendents have come. Lets come to our infrastructural problems right now. You said exactly that, water and electricity. I want to give water and electricity to the council and the municipality tomorrow. This help will create more problems for the people of the council and the municipality. I said that when in 1400 cities there are less than 700 Sewage Networks in the country, which means a double cost without the return of capital, at least in 1015 years, when we produce electricity or water, it will cost us a few thousand billion tomans, for example, cubic meters or kilowatts , then we cannot do this because we pay people to people in rials. We will take the full price of water and electricity from them. Starting tomorrow , we will have to pay a few thousand tomans for a kilowatt or a cubic meter of water, for example, which municipality or the government, no matter how much you pay, because according to the law of 1963, the municipality has become selfgoverning, and its resources are not from the government. If he wants to help, we can make water and electricity more expensive for the People Municipality and Village Administration means to impose a cost on my people with these four assumptions and experience that happened due to the lack of infrastructure, a herd in some municipalities and Village Administrations say to each other, well, we are now elected compared to we also have a duty, we do not live in a transparent environment, even very limited, but many of them are honorable people in the country, but people are really not satisfied with the performance of some councils and municipalities. Well, since there is no introduction, i will tell him now that tomorrow i will be well and good. Go to the council and take sides. Tell him, sir, you did not vote for me. I will give you water. I dont want to say that it didnt happen in some cities or villages. We said this, sir. For example, why are you going to that village or that city . Its me and you who are saying that, sir, whoever voted for us or not, we are servants , our duty is for the region, village and city. We didnt get a small vote , so we should follow up more to show that the government wants to reach the deprived areas, but we dont have it in some places, some of the councils, even though they are limited, say that this neighborhood was not served at all, it didnt vote for me , because my voting base is not there. Tehran is not everywhere in the country, it was not only tehran that was able to do it everywhere in the country lets build the metro. How much did tehran borrow from shahr bank . The rest of the municipalities, even mashhad, ahvaz , even tabriz. I dont know anymore