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KGO This Week With George Stephanopoulos July 13, 2024

Im ending my campaign. Im suspending my campaign. The viable path just no longer existed. Now a twoman race. If you want to nominate a life long democrat, join us. We have different records. We have a different vision. The American People will hear about it. Six more states vote tuesday. Is michigan now make or break for Bernie Sanders . He joins us this morning. Plus, rahm emanuel and Chris Christie on our powerhouse roundtable. Well break down the politics, smoke out the spin, the in facte announcer from abc news, its this week. Here now, chief anchor george stephanopoulos. Good morning, and welcome to this week. Well have all the latest on the race to the white house coming up but we begin with the coronavirus crisis. Heres what we know right now, the number of cases has climbed passed 100,000. And more 100 countries. Italy announced overnight that the Northern Region of that country is now on lockdown. Affecting a quarter of the population. The virus is spreading coast to coast here. More than 400 confirmed cases in the u. S. , at least 19 deaths. And the Economic Impact spreading beyond wall street, with more events cancelled, schools closing and travel restricted. We begin this morning with ben carson, hud secretary, and a member of president Trumps Coronavirus Task force. Secretary carson, thank you for joining us this morning. Theres so much evidence mounting that this virus is spreading faster than measures to contain it here, close to 100 million americans could be infected with the virus. You said you want to be transparent, should americans be braced for these kind of numbers . Theres no question that we should be informed about how we should manage our own lives. Its very important for people to understand that this virus is like other viruses, it should be treated the same way, so we have flu seasons that come up frequently and there are certain precautions that you take during that time to make sure that you dont contract the virus. Bear in mind that theres a certain segment of our society who are particularly vulnerable, including people who have underlying medical conditions. Elderly with underlying medical conditions. And so, certain precautions should be taken. If we take those precautions then we have much more ability to contain the spread of the disease. Also, its very important for people to understand that the vast majority of people who actually contract the virus are only going to have flulike symptoms or less. Many of them will be asymptomatic altogether. Theres a limit bit of exaggeration in terms of what happens if you contract the virus. Thats not what i was asking. Those are important questions. Is it an exaggeration that up to 100 Million People could be affected . Im trying to get your sense of the magnitude of this possible crisis . I think its possible for large number of people. Theres no question more people will be detected as we do more testing. But you can look at worst case scenarios, you can look at best case scenarios, the thing that needs to be understood that we are working very hard looking a recommendations based on that. And we need to be working nd local health officials, and the medical professionals who are very good in this country, by the way, and theyre the ones who are making the determination about who needs to be tested. And there are questions about the availability of the tests as well. The president said that anyone can get it if they want it. It turns out that it will be weeks before everyone has access to a test. Governor cuomo of new york was complaining about the bottleneck in the testing. The cdc is a bottleneck for this nation in doing the testing. You go to cdc, the test have to go back to atlanta, they have to do the test, send it back, i believe the cdc was caught flatfooted. I believe theyre slow in their response and i believe theyre slowing down the state. Whats your response to Governor Cuomo . What kind of assurances can you provide that tests are on the way . Well, over a million tests were shipped out already this past week. Tomorrow, another 640,000 will be available. Those are only the ones that are being dealt with on a federal official level. There are also tests being created by the veterans hospitals and most of the Academic Centers have them. So there are a lot of tests but the key thing is everybody doesnt need a test and that should be something that should be determined by the medical professionals who are administering the tests. As you know, the grand princess is docking the cruise ship is docking in oakland tomorrow, what plan is in place to deal with the 3500 people onboard . The cruise ship personnel and as you know, the Vice President met with the ceos of the major Cruise Ship Companies yesterday, and they are coming up with a plan within 72 hours of that meeting. The ship is docking tomorrow. The plan will be in placed by that time. But i dont want to preview the plan right now. Shouldnt you be able to do that . I think it needs to all come from a solitary source, we shouldnt have 16 people saying what the plan is. Okay particularly when it hasnt been fully formulated. Okay, youre the president s representative this morning. But let me move on, the virus getting closer to white house, washington, someone who attended cpac, one has tested positive. Are you concerned that this could have spread to the president and other top officials in washington . Well, we have concerns at all times and thats why we ask people to sanitize their hands and to take various types of t, president does that, we all do that. And if we have been mingling with people obviously were going to take those precautions. Bear in mind that if you go out of the studio today and you shake hands with somebody who has coronavirus that doesnt mean that youre going to contract coronavirus. That doesnt mean that youre going to get sick. But it does mean that you decrease your chances significantly if you follow those logical guidelines that have been placed out before everyone. And those guidelines are there for a reason. You mentioned what people should be doing, washing hands, we all know that right now, sanitizing, we also know that some governments and communities are taking broader measures right now, italy is on lockdown in north. Major conferences like south by southwest have been cancelled here in the united states. Companies like facebook and twitter are urging employees to work from home if they can. Is it time for more extensive communitywide measures to contain this virus . I think its time for people to really indulge themselves in learning how viruses are spread and to take advantage of that knowledge and determining what their daily activities are going to be and as i said before its very important to emphasize that there are certain groups of people who are at much higher risk than the general population and they need to take extra consideration in terms of where theyre going to be, how theyre going to mingle with society. I get that. We all need to take responsibility for ourselves. But im asking you as a representative of the president , as a member of the Coronavirus Task force, what should the community be doing . We heard the president said, hell continue with political rallies in the face of this. Is this sending the right message or is it time for Broader Community measures to contain this . Again, going to a rally, if youre a healthy individual and youre taking the precautions vf those categories of high risk, obviously you need to think twice about that. Im confused by the message youre sending right now, dr. Ben carson. I have to say. We just heard yesterday the governor of california said its not a question of if schools are going to close but when schools are going to close. We have seen Companies Taking responsibility for their employees. You seem to be putting all the responsibility back on individuals saying that they should be thinking for themselves. Im trying to ask you, in the view of the Government Experts right now, what broader measures need to be taken . Those recommendations will be coming out from the cdc, theyre being evaluated on a daily basis. Right now the recommendation is as i just prescribed, go about your normal daily activities if you are healthy. If you are not healthy, think very seriously about attending places where there are crowds. Dr. Carson, thanks for your time this morning. My pleasure. Lets get more on this from dr. Jen ashton and former Homeland Security adviser, tom bossert. Tom, you were part of this whole effort to have bio preparedness. What do you make of what we just heard from dr. Carson also more broadly what people should expect about the magnitude of this crisis . Theres a difficult Inflection Point that we reached. They acted quickly to contain this. Were at a second Inflection Point. Ill be honest, im very disappointed to hear the message we just heard. But as a collective public we need to start mobilizing this collective risk mentality. People not getting sick have to do with arresting the spread of this disease. This virus is demonstrating a potential thats way more significant than the flu and when i hear people were dealing with the flu or Something Like it, i get awfully nervous. The numbers suggest that if we dont act to intervene, interact with this disease in a way thats collectively aggressive, this disease spreads three times more quickly. Among a populous that doesnt have any immunities to this virus. It can kill tentimes more than the flu. That estimate at top of the program, potentially 100 Million People, thats not outlandish. We dont want to make a prediction, but the potential for this virus has demonstrated that it could have a 30 attack rate. Apply that to the u. S. Thats a terrifying number. But we have seen that in singapore and hong kong, we can intervene and we can change understand it. Dr. Jen, like dr. Carson, youre a doctor. What did you make of what you hear. To echo what tom said, we have to stop thinking just about how you can protect yourself and how i can protect myself, but the fact of the matter is, when you talk about aggressive social distancing measures like school closings. Its not just trying to protect children, theyre relatively spared at this point of coronavirus because those kids dont go home to their 85yearold grandparents, the vulnerable population, and infect them. We have to broader out in a ripple effect. As usual, there seems to be a big disconnect what were seeing at the top of pyramid and whats really going on clinically in the trenches with patients, nurses, doctors and hospital, doctors offices and theres a lot of confusion, concern and chaos. A lag time in some of the administrations response. As tom pointed out, the administration moved quickly on the travel ban. Dr. Carson, the cruise ship gets into port in oakland tomorrow and theyre still formulating the plan. Yeah, and heres the thing about that, george. The cruise ship as we heard with the diamond princess and now with the grand princess, you know in medicine we have to get up to speed quickly and the clock is ticking, so time matters. If left unchecked, this is a virus that doubles roughly every seven days. Its not that difficult test every Single Person onboard. Those who are asymptomatic, in quarantine. Those who have mild symptoms get isolated. Isolation is for people who have mild symptoms and those who have severe symptoms, and there are over 1,000 people over age of 70 on that ship need hospital care. Off the ship. Its not acceptable to say we have seen it before, we know how it turns out but were not going to get them off the ship until monday. Tom, what Broader Community measures should we consider . George, as people think about whether they would go on a cruise ship now. Communal food. Now. I suppose id give two big messages, its not so much that the administration is not prepared, thats not accurate. We now have an Inflection Point were moving forward. We have this message properly to empower the state and local officials who are going to make these decisions, to make them with confidence. If it doesnt seem like a big disease somebody told me its like looking at star, the light that you see left that star in the past. Because of that lag you referenced well have to make decisions at state and local levels, at corporate , bere iits any to do so. Thats the message. It will be a joint and shared decision. George, its also important a thltan medical information to understand that anxiety is higher, people are concerned, people are afraid and when you hear politicians or government Officials Say dont panic, it can run the risk of being dismissive or insulting and actually can create panic. So i think we need to act here based on evidence and not emotion. When we come back, its now a twoman race for the democratic nomination. Can Bernie Sanders come back after joe bidens super tuesday surprise . Nate silver looks at the odds and the senator joins us next. Especially by Something Like your cloud. Its a problem. But the ibm cloud is different. 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At this point in the primary with almost 40 of delegates already chosen, were no longer in the race for momentum or for symbolic victories its race for delegates. From a delegates standpoint tuesday doesnt look great for Bernie Sanders. Our projections have joe biden winning in potential landslides in mississippi and missouri, gaining about 25 delegates. Meanwhile, states that were supposed to be good for bernie, washington and idaho, are now polling as ties. The delegates will be evenly split. But every comeback has to start somewhere and michigan could be a first in a long series of steps back into context for Bernie Sanders. In 2016, he won the state. Heres one possible scenario, if bernie wins michigan on tuesday, mostly symbolic, it could set him up for a good debate on sunday, next tuesday march 17th, when four states vote. They have almost 600 delegates. Its an uphill battle. Bernie lost all four of these states in 2016, lots of older voters in florida and arizona who were

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