No, susan is not with me. I was like, where is she . He was like, i dont know. Who were you camping with . My dad and my mom. The children said mommy was in the van but didnt come back with us. Pretty significant thing for a 4yearold to tell a detective. Susan had often referred to her fatherinlaw as creepy. Too close. Steven was wanting to be interviewed, and he reveals the biggest bombshell. We interarcted in a lot of sexual ways. One last question. How am i going to find your wife without your help . Puyallup is a smaller town. Its located in an area thats kind of protected from wind and rain from the mountains around it. Its a suburb of seattle and tacoma. Its homey. Its growing. Low crime. Lots of children who live there. Lots of families. Many people are members of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints. A lot of really nice people interconnected through the church. Its kind of a very typical american community. It is in puyallup, washington, where these two families and these two lives intersect. Josh powell and susan cox. Susan was one of four daughters born to chuck and judy cox. She was just, you know, a really typical girl and teenager. She liked to ride horses. She was my partner in crime. Susan tried to be rebellious, but she had too good of a heart. She was doing well in church and school. Had friends. She loved choir. She liked her hair done. Her nails done. Wear stylish clothes. Susan had gone to cosmetology school. She liked to make other people feel good about themselves. She got interested in boys as a teenager. She met josh when she was 18 at a social event for young mormons, and he was in his 20s. And she hadnt dated a lot. In the church of jesus christ of latter day saints, if you are unmarried, you can attend a congregation that is for other unmarried individuals. And so josh and susan are both kind of circulating in this singles crowd. There are incredible home movies taken by joshs dad which were later released by police that show the couples blossoming relationship. When i first met josh, guess i thought he was cute. He was very confident, and he thought he could get any girl he wanted. Susan said that he was treating her really well and he cared about her and he promised hed make her happy. Josh powell was an ambitious, strong headed, kind of nerdy guy. Just tall, dorky, his heads too big for his shoulders. He just looked awkward. Hes got a job. Hes got his own place, hes going to college. Sounded pretty good. Hes going to go to school for business, so hes somebody who is bright when he applies himself. They quickly fell in love. You see pictures of them. They looked to be completely smitten. Josh and susans relationship goes from not knowing each other at all in october to being engaged by the end of december. When she told me she was getting married, i wasnt that supportive. Because she barely knew him, and she just assured me that shes gonna be really happy and that he wanted in life what she wanted in life. Those videos also captured josh and susans wedding and the home life they built together after. Susan looked very pretty at her wedding. Very traditional long, white dress. Please put the ring in that box, open it up, put it on. She was very excited to show off josh and start their lives together. Lets see the ring. Lets see the ring. Hold your hand up, please. Its a Young Persons love story that quickly becomes dark. As the reception went on, josh was ignoring her more and more. Taking pictures and hanging out with his family and then disappearing. I could tell shes getting more agitated. Susan and josh didnt have much money, and they found themselves doing some odd jobs just to get by. Susan actually was the financial provider. He kept going in and out of jobs and was never really settled with anything. They moved to West Valley City in utah because they were looking for a better life. They wanted to improve their economic situation. They buy a house, and they start to have a family. I still remember the day that she told me she was pregnant. It was probably the most impactful day of her life. She was so excited cause she always wanted to be a mom. I would describe josh as an unattached dad. Josh wanted to hold charlie when he wanted to show him off to people. But other than that, he didnt want to change his diaper or feed him or give him a bath. Hey, buddy. Here we go. Okay. And then they had brayden. And if you look at the family pictures, there is joy and there is sparkle. Yeah. As little boys, they were rambunctious and mischievous and ran around being typical happy little boys. What are you watching . Cars cars. And susan loved them more than anything in the world. Monday morning, december 7th, 2009. They didnt show up. Debbie caldwell. 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Jennifer gave permission to the police to break a window and go into the house. The smallest officer just kind of shimmied in and he was like, wait, what is up with the fans . There are two box fans pointed at the carpet in the living room, and we were all confused. The officers cleared the entire residence and found nobody inside the home. And the powell vehicle, which was a blue minivan, it wasnt parked in the garage. The first thing i saw was susans purse was on a table and i started pulling out things. I found her keys, her wallet it had her drivers license and her credit cards. You would expect that if she had left on her own, was intending to go someplace, she would have taken those items. The kitchen, the master bedroom was fairly clean. I mean, the bed wasnt made. The bedroom for the children, the blankets were missing, but, yeah, the house was pretty orderly. There was no sign of a disturbance, physical altercation inside of the residence. On the morning of december 7th, i was sitting in my family room, homeschooling my three kids, and the phone rang. The voice on the other end said, josh, susan, and the boys are missing. And nobodys seen them since yesterday. It was the most horrible, sickening feeling. I just thought, what has happened . Susans friends were afraid that theyd gone out on a jaunt because josh liked to drive and take photographs and maybe had slipped off a cliff or theyd gotten stuck in the snow. I made a few phone calls asking other people in the congregation if anyone had seen susan. Jovanna goes, i actually had dinner with them last night. Susan asked jovanna to come over to the house and help her with her knitting and crocheting. While she was there, josh, who never did anything domestic at all, offered to make people dinner. She was crocheting on her blanket. I was working on the yarn. Josh and the boys were in the kitchen cooking. He called his father, steve, to ask for a recipe for pancakes. Everything he did was a little bit different routine than anybody else would have. He made them one by one. He took a plate in to jovanna. He took a plate with different pancakes made obviously in to susan. He and the boys ate at the table and he brought our our plates in to us in the living room. I think that was probably very unusual. I never, ever witnessed them ever eating in the living room. Shortly after that, susan began to not feel well. Susan laid down, and josh sort of suggested to jovanna that it was time for her to leave. He was gonna take the boys sledding, and he and the boys actually drove out before i had finished putting on my seatbelt. That was the last time i saw anybody, around 5 00. My brother finally called. Right away asked about the kids, asked about susan, and he was like, yeah, the kids are here. No, susans not with me. I was like, where is she . He was like, i dont know. I have no idea. She went to work. 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Want more. Here you go, buddy. Josh is very evasive, and he uses the kids who are in the room to distract away. He wasnt forthcoming with answers or information, so it was very frustrating. And where did you drive to . Well, i started heading south through tooele, turned onto the pony express. How far down the pony express did you go . Not very far. Maybe 20 miles, i dont know. So what did you do once you got there . Hooked up a heater and lit a fire for the boys. Josh said they drove to Simpson Springs and had smores over a campfire. Its not really very clear exactly what happened that evening and the next morning. We asked him if we could search his minivan, and he agreed. The minivan was full of camping supplies. Like, there was a tarp, a generator, shovel, graham crackers. During that search of the minivan, where they find susans phone, hidden in the Center Console. Its this pink cell phone, clearly not joshs. And he was kind of like deer in headlights. 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And im like, well, wheres susan . And she said, we dont know. As soon as i heard that he was back and susan was not with them, i instantly said to myself, what has he done . It became, like, this game of telephone where people were passing along these little bits of information and suddenly a larger story was coming together. He said he was out driving around. Hed gone out camping with the boys. And im like, are you a crazy man . It was cold. That is 100 josh. He did that kind of stuff all the time. But susan would have never allowed him to ever take the boys out in the winter to the desert in the middle of the night, never. I never believed his story at all. It was determined we didnt have enough probable cause to secure a search warrant for the residence because we didnt have any physical evidence. The decision was a huge mistake. Because he burns this metal object into oblivion. So thoroughly destroyed was this item that nobody to this day can say what exactly it was. Bags and bags of things are shoved into the garbage. Why would you do that the day after your wife disappears . The following morning he is observed with the minivan pulled out of the garage, all the doors opened, thoroughly cleaning it, wiping it down, vacuuming it. It was really odd to me because he was running around the house grabbing piles of towels and putting them in the washer. And finally, were like, youve got to go to your interview with the police. Ill be right back, okay . Okay. Josh powell kind of has a uniform of sorts. Its typically a tshirt, its a leather jacket, its denim pants, and its dingy white shoes. When josh goes in to talk to the police, in the tape, you see him initially acting very emotional. I dont i dont know. I didnt even think it was that i didnt it didnt sink in yesterday. He starts crying. His voice is shaking. Hes just trying to hold it together. But as detective maxwell continues to push josh about whats going on, joshs demeanor changes. I cant remember what we were doing. Okay. So you dont remember what you guys did from 6 00 till you went to bed on saturday night . I just dont remember what activity we were doing. Josh is not a participant at all in talking about his missing wife. Shows no urgency in getting out to go look for her. Have you checked any places where she could be . I havent had much of a chance to do any of that yet. He asks police no questions about what theyre doing to find her. What places should we go check to see if we can find her . Beauty supply. I dont think she would be there, but she likes them. And he offers no suggestions really about where they might look. Im leaving. Let me ask you this before you go out. Go ahead and ask one last question. How am i going to find your wife without your help . While im interviewing him, another colleague conducted a child forensic interview. Right tl there. Yeah. Good job. Its got nice lights, huh . Pretty. We went to the childrens justice center, and they were able to interview charlie. Braden really wouldnt talk to them. Okay, well, what did you do last night . Go camping. You we