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Kroft charlie and carol gasko were an elderly couple who moved to santa monica, california, sometime in early 1997 to begin a new phase of their life. For the next 14 years, they did almost nothing that was memorable. And as we first reported back in 2013, they would be of absolutely no interest, if it werent for the fact that Charlie Gasko turned out to be james Whitey Bulger, the notorious boston gangster and longtime fugitive, who is now in prison serving two lifetime sentences. Carol gasko was actually Catherine Greig, whiteys longtime girlfriend and caregiver. The story of how they managed to elude an International Manhunt for so long while hiding in plain sight is interesting. And tonight, youll hear it from the gaskos neighbors, and from federal agents who finally unraveled the case, with the help of a boob job and an alley cat. If youre forced into retirement, with a comfortable nest egg and a desire to be left completely alone, there is no better place than santa monica california. This low key seaside suburb of l. A. Is shared by transients and tourists, hippies and hedonists, celebrities and lots of Senior Citizens attracted to the climate and an abundance of inexpensive, rentcontrolled apartments just a few blocks from the ocean. Places like the princess eugenia on third street, which is where charlie and carol gasko, a childless couple from chicago, lived for 14 years without attracting much attention from longtime neighbors or landlords. Josh bond is the building manager. What were they like . Josh bond they were, like, the nice retired old couple that lived in the apartment next to me. Kroft good tenants . Bond excellent tenants. Never complained, always paid rent on time. Kroft in cash . Bond in cash. Kroft Janus Goodwin lived down the hall. Janus goodwin they had nothing. And they never went out. They never had food delivered. She never dressed nicely. Kroft you thought they were poor . Goodwin yes, without a doubt. Kroft the one thing everyone remembers about the gaskos is that they loved animals and always made a fuss over the ones in the neighborhood. Barbara gluck remembers that carol gasko always fed a stray cat after its owner had died. Barbara gluck she would, you know, pet it and be sweet to it, and then she would put a plate of food, like, out here. Kroft and what about Charlie Gasko . Gluck you know, he always had a hat on and dark glasses. I have to say it was mysterious to me why a lovely woman like that was hanging out with that guy, that old, grumpy man. I never could figure that one out. Until i heard they had 800,000 something dollars in the wall. laughter and then i went, oh, okay, you know . Kroft money wasnt the only thing found in the gaskos apartment on june 22, 2011, when the fbi stopped by and ended what it called the most extensive manhunt in the bureaus history. Scott garriola weapons all over the apartment. I mean, weapons by his nightstand, weapons under the windowsill. Shotguns, minirugers, rifles. Kroft loaded . Garriola loaded, ready to go. Kroft what had started out as a routine day for special agent scott garriola, who was in charge of hunting fugitives in l. A. , would turn into one of the most interesting days of his career. After getting a call to stake out a building in santa monica he notified his backup team with the l. A. P. D. Garriola i had four guys working that day, and i said we got a tip on Whitey Bulger and ill see you there in about an hour. And invariably the texts would return, whos Whitey Bulger . Kroft really . Garriola yeah, a few of them. So i had to remind them. Gently remind them who Whitey Bulger was. Kroft that he was number one of the fbis most wanted list. Garriola number. Number one. Number one, yeah. Big east coast figure, but. So, on the west coast, not so much. Kroft the cops in l. A. Were focused on gangbangers and cartel members, not some retired irish mobster who hadnt been spotted in 16 years. But then, few mobsters have ever been as infamous in a city as Whitey Bulger was in boston, and his reputation was for more than just being grumpy. Besides extortion and flooding the city with cocaine, bulger routinely performed or ordered executions, some at close range, some with a hail of bullets, and at least one by strangulation, after which, its said, he took a nap. Special agent rich teahan, who ran the fbis Whitey BulgerFugitive Task force, had heard it all. Rich teahan bulger was charged with 19 counts of murder. He was charged with other crimes. He was a scourge to the society in south boston, his own community. Kroft he was also a scourge to the fbi, and a great source of embarrassment to teahan special agent phil torsney, and others on the fbi task force. Years earlier, Whitey Bulger had infiltrated the Boston Office of the fbi and bought off agents, who protected him and plied him with information, including the tip that allowed bulger to flee just days before he was to be indicted. Phil torsney we really had to catch this guy to establish credibility after all the other issues. And it was just a matter of bringing this guy back to boston. Kroft torsney, whos now retired, and agent Tommy Macdonald joined the task force in 2009. The joke was bulger was on the fbis least wanted list. There hadnt been a credible lead in more than a decade. And their efforts in bulgers Old Neighborhood of south boston were met with mistrust and ridicule. Torsney some people, they told us right out front, you guys arent looking for that guy. People just made the assumption we had him stashed somewhere. I mean, people really thought that kind of thing. Tommy macdonald despite that mindset that were not going to help you, the fbi still got it done. Kroft took 16 years. Macdonald took 16 years. Yeah, this was not a typical fugitive. Kroft the fbi says bulger had planned his getaway years in advance, with money set aside and a fake identity for a thomas baxter. During his first two years on the lam, bulger was in touch with friends and family, shuttling between new york chicago, and the resort town of grand isle, louisiana, where he rented a home until his identity was compromised. After that, it seemed as if bulger had disappeared from the face of the earth, except for the alleged sightings all over the world. How many of these tips do you think might have been true . Torsney boy, there was thousands and thousands of tips, and i think. I dont think any of them were true. Kroft one of the obstacles was there were really no good photographs of bulger or his longtime livein girlfriend Catherine Greig, a former dental hygienist. The fbi often noted that the couple shared a love of animals, especially dogs and cats, and asked veterinarians to be on the lookout. There were reports that greig once had Breast Implants and other Plastic Surgery in boston, so the task force reached out to physicians. Eventually, they got a call from a dr. Matthias donelan, who had located her files in storage. Macdonald i was trying to leave the office a little early to catch one of my kids ballgames. And i said, well, listen, im going to swing by in the morning and pick those up. And they said to me, do you want the photos, too . And i said, you have photos . And they said, yeah, we have photos. I said, well be there in 15 minutes. Kroft the Breast Implant lead produced a treasure trove of highresolution Catherine Greig photographs that would help crack the case. The fbi decided to switch strategies, going after the girlfriend in order to catch the gangster. This is an announcement by the fbi. Kroft the fbi created this Public Service announcement. 60yearold greig is the girlfriend of 81yearold bulger. Kroft it ran it in 14 markets on daytime talk shows aimed at women. Call the tip line at 1800 callfbi. Kroft and it didnt take long. The very next morning, the bulger task force got three messages from someone that used to live in santa monica, and was 100 certain that charlie and carol gasko, apartment 303 at the princess eugenia apartments, were the people they were looking for. The descriptions and the age difference matched, and deputy u. S. Marshall neil sullivan, who handled the lead, said there was another piece of tantalizing information. Neil sullivan the tipster specifically described that they were caring for this cat and their love for this cat. So that was just one piece of the puzzle on the tip that just added up to saying, if this isnt them, its something we better check out immediately because it sure sounds like them. Kroft a search of the fbis computer database for the gaskos raised another red flag not for what it found, but for what it didnt. Sullivan basically, like they were ghosts kroft no drivers license. Sullivan exactly. No drivers license, no california i. D. , like they didnt exist. Kroft thats the apartment. Garriola that corner on the third floor. Kroft on the righthand side . Garriola yep. Kroft by early afternoon fbi agent Scott Gariolla had set up a number of surveillance posts, and had already met with apartment manager josh bond to talk about his tenants. Bond he closed the door, threw down a folder and opened it up and said, are these the people that live in apartment 303 . Kroft did you say anything when you saw the pictures . Bond my initial reaction was, holy bleep . Kroft youre living next door to a gangster. Bond well, i still didnt really know who he was. Kroft but it didnt take him long to figure it out. While the fbi was mulling its options, bond logged on to bulgers wikipedia page. Bond and im kind of scrolling down. Its like, oh, wow, this guys serious. Its, like, murders and extortion. And then, i get to the bottom and theres this. This thing. Its like, from one of his old you know, people saying, well the last time i saw him, he. He said, you know, when he goes out, hes. Hes going to have guns and hes going to be ready to take people with him. I was like, ooh, maybe i shouldnt be involved in this. laughs kroft i mean, were sitting here laughing about it, but he is a pretty serious guy. Bond yeah, yeah. Kroft and he killed a lot of people, or had them killed bond i didnt know that at the time. Kroft bond told the fbi he wasnt going to knock on the gaskos door, because there was a note posted expressly asking people not to bother them. Carol had told the neighbors that charlie was showing signs of dementia. Garriola so we were back there. Kroft so, garriola devised a ruse involving the gaskos storage locker in the garage. Garriola it had the name gasko across it and apartment 303. Kroft he had the manager call to tell them that their locker had been broken into, and that he needed someone to come down to see if anything was missing. Carol gasko said her husband would be right down. Garriola we just rushed him. Kroft you mean guns out . Fbi, dont move garriola gave the words, hey, fbi. Get your hands up. Hands went up right away. And then, at that moment, we told him get down on his knees and he gave us. laughs yeah, he gave us a i aint getting down on my fing knees. Kroft didnt want to get his pants dirty. Garriola didnt want to get his pants dirty. You know, wearing white and seeing the oil on the ground, i guess he didnt want to get down in oil. Kroft even at 81, this was a man used to being in control. Garriola i asked him to identify himself and that didnt go over well. He asked me to fing identify myself, which i did. And i asked him, i said, are you Whitey Bulger . He said, yes. Just about that moment, someone catches my attention from a few feet away by the elevator shaft. Kroft it was Janus Goodwin from the third floor, coming to do her laundry. Goodwin and i said, excuse me. I think i can help you. This man has dementia, so if hes acting oddly, you know, that could be why. Garriola immediately, what flashed through my mind is, oh, my god, i just arrested an 81 yearold man with alzheimers who thinks hes Whitey Bulger. What is he going to tell me next, hes elvis . So i said, do me a favor. This woman over here says you have a touch of alzheimers, and he said, dont listen to her, shes fing nuts. He says, im james bulger. Kroft a few minutes later, he confirmed it, signing a consent form allowing the fbi to search his apartment. Garriola as hes signing, he says, thats the first time ive signed that name in a long time. Kroft was there a sense of resignation . Garriola i dont think he had it. I did ask him, i said, hey, whitey, i said, arent you relieved that you dont have to look over your shoulder anymore and, you know, its come to an end . And he said, are you bleep nuts . Kroft but, in some ways, Whitey Bulger and Catherine Greig had already been prisoners in apartment 303, which appeared to be a mixture of the murderous and the mundane. Alongside the weapons and all the money, they had stockpiled a lifetime supply of cleansers creams, and detergents. The fbi took special interest in a collection of 64ounce bottles with white socks stretched over the top. Garriola i said, hey whitey, what are these . Are these some kind of molotov cocktail youre making . He goes, no, he said, i buy tube socks from the 99 cents store, and theyre too tight on my calves and thats the way i stretch them out. I said, why you shopping at the 99 cent store . You have half a Million Dollars under your bed. He goes, i had to make the money last. Kroft its been said that one of the reasons it took so long to catch Whitey Bulger is that people were looking for a gangster, and bulger, whether he liked it or not, had ceased to be one. Torsney he said it was hard to keep up that mindset of a criminal. And thats part of the reason he came down to that garage. It was hard to stay on that edge, that criminal edge, after being on the lam as a regular citizen for 15 years. Kroft the master manipulator gave credit to Catherine Greig for keeping him crimefree hoping it would mitigate her sentence. She is now serving eight years for harboring a fugitive. On the long plane ride back to boston, bulger told his captors that he became obsessed with not getting caught, and would do anything to avoid it, even if it meant obeying the law. Whitey bulgers biggest fear they said, was being discovered dead in his apartment and he had a plan to avoid it. Torsney if he became ill and knew he was on his deathbed, hed go down to arizona, crawl down in the bottom of one of these mines, and die and decompose. And hope. Hope that we would never find him and still be looking. Looking for him forever. Kroft as for all that money that was seized from Whitey Bulgers apartment, federal prosecutors are preparing to distribute nearly 822,000 to the families of his murder victims and three men who were extorted by the gangster. People with type 2 diabetes come from all walks of life. If you have high blood sugar ask your doctor about farxiga. Its a different kind of medicine that works by removing some sugar from your body. Along with diet and exercise farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. With one pill a day, farxiga helps lower your a1c. 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