President zelensky and president shared their recollection of trump and from the podium he overhearing this call. For the most part, i have no said no, absolutely not. I never brought up the word reason to doubt their accounts. Its true that the president burisma in any of my conversations with anybody. Speaks loudly at times, and its lets move on to secretary of also true i think we state, mike pompeo. You will remember he made primarily discussed asop rocky. Television appearances and he acted like he didnt know what its true that the president the interviewer was talking likes to use colorful language. About when asked about the call anyone who has met with him for and the pressure on ukraine and any reasonable amount of time knows this. So now sondland is presenting while i cannot remember the precise details, again, the evidence in exhibits that white house has not allowed me dispute that. Its important to note, norah, that the president himself has to see any readouts of the call already stumbled when hes and the july 25th call did not addressed ambassador sondland. In the beginning when all we had strike me as significant at the time. As evidence were those text actually, actually, i would have been more surprised if president messages that showed sondland trump had not mentioned said there was no quid pro quo, investigations, particularly at the president s direction, given what we were hearing from the president said that sondland mr. Giuliani about the was a great american, someone president s concerns. Who was highly respected and however, i have no recollection then after sondland amended his of discussing Vice President testimony and said his memory biden or his son on that call or was refreshed and there was a after the call ended. Quid pro quo, the president i know that members of this said, i hardly know the committee frequently frame these gentleman. He also mentioned recently complicated issues in the form during a press conference that of a simple question. He has no recollection of a phone call that sondland just was there a quid pro quo . As i testified previously with described and this isnt just any phone call. According to the ambassador, regard to the requested white this was a very informal phone house call and the white house meeting, the answer is, yes. Call, something that would only unfold if you were familiar with mr. Giuliani conveyed to the person. Secretary perry, ambassador he was asked, is it true that volker and others that president you told the president that trump wanted a Public Statement president zelensky loves your from president zelensky expletive and he laughed and committing to investigations of said, that sounds like something i would say, yes. So this is not, you know, burisma and the 2016 election. Mr. Giuliani expressed those something that you can just talk like that with just anybody. Requests directly to the there are a lot of questions here and the president so far ukrainians, and mr. Giuliani also expressed those requests directly to us. Has not weighed in today. We all understood that these they were close enough to prerequisites for the white share expletives on the phone. House call and the right white there was a way they house meeting reflected communicated with one another. I think the way that sondland President Trumps desires and put it, they regularly communicated in there was a requirements. Lot of fourletter words, in this case three letter words. Within my state Department Emails theres a july 19th there was a shared friendship email. Between the two of them that this email was sent this they spoke together that way. One other point there, we did email was sent to secretary see, i understand, lieutenant pompeo, secretary perry, brian colonel vindman, who made some damming remarks yesterday, he mccormack, who is secretary showed up at work today at the white house . Thats right. Perrys chief of staff at the our cbs cameraman greg larson time, miss kenna, who is the was the only one to capture this video and its important because acting pardon me, the you can tell a lot by lieutenant executive secretary for pompeo, colonel vindmans body language. Mr. Mulvaney and mr. Mulvaneys he saw our camera and positioned Senior Adviser rob blair. Himself in a way that almost was a lot of senior officials. A lot of senior officials. Like a conversation, no words here is my exact quote from that email. Were spoken, but he smiled, he made clear that he wanted to be i talked to zelensky just now. Seen, he was with his twin brother theyook a he is prepared to receive potuss call. Selfie together with the west will assure him that he intends wing in the background as they to run a fully transparent walked into work. Im just going to im just going to cue our investigation and will turn over control room because we do have every stone. He would greatly appreciate a that exclusive cbs video of call prior to sunday so that he can put out some media about a colonel vindman showing up at the white house today because friendly and productive call, no that as you point out has raised details, prior to ukraine the question about whether he election on sunday. Will be retaliated against. Sources close to vindman have suggested perhaps he may have to move on to a military base to chief of staff mulvaney protect his family, but appears responded. He and his brother are still i asked the nsc to set it up for working at the white house. It sure does. Tomorrow. He is apparently happy about it, everyone was in the loop. At least about you can see right it was no secret. There, hes looking over. This is the other moment i was everyone was informed via email describing before they head into work, youre going to watch them on july 19th, days before the right here, stop one more time, to make sure our camera catches president ial call. As i communicated to the team, i them. And so i think, you know, its defiant and it sends a message told president zelensky in advance that assurances to run a that here he is and remember, fully transparent election and the white house says that, you know, he is still on the payroll turn over every stone were and he is. Necessary in his call with if that changes, norah, that will present a whole other host President Trump. On july 19th in a whatsapp of questions. But youre right, hes here with message between ambassador taylor, ambassador volker and his brother. If he were retaliated me, ambassador volker stated, against, absolutely. Thank you. I want to bring in margaret had breakfast with rudy this brennan here, because one of the details we learned today from morning. Thats ambassador volker and Rudy Giuliani. The ambassador is this idea he teeing up call with yermak said several times, everybody was in the loop. Monday. He said that a couple times. Thats Senior Adviser yermak. Must have helped. He said it three or four most important is for zelensky times. Yeah. And in his Opening Statement to say that he will help he also sort of detailed for a investigation and address any guy who says he doesnt take a specific personnel issues, if lot of notes, he went back with there are any. On august 10th, the next day, his lawyers and checked his emails and Text Messages talks mr. Yermak texted me. About communicating with the secretary of state mike pompeo. Once we have a date, which is a what do you think his motivation was in doing that . Whats the practical effect now date for the white house meeting, we will call for a for the secretary of state . Well if he has read any of press briefing announcing his press coverage, ambassador upcoming visit and outlining sondland knows that even vision for the reboot of the republicans have started to distance themselves from him in u. S. ukraine relationship. Terms of his credibility as a including, among other things, witness because it would be easy burisma and election meddling to say that he was just and investigations. Freelancing. You heard tim morrison talk this is from mr. Yermak to me. About him yesterday as sort of a free radical the phrased used. The following day, august 11th, sondland here is saying no, actually, it went up the chain and this is critical, i sent an of command, directly to the email to counselor brechbuhl and secretary of state, not just Rudy Giuliani, and he says that lisa kenna. Members of the National Security council were aware. That was him responding in some lisa ke inna was frequently use ways. What about giuliani . He says they had to work with as a path way to secretary giuliani but they didnt really want to work with giuliani and pompeo. She would print them out and put at one point he says if he had them in front of him. Known about giuliani and the with the subject, ukraine, i fact he would later be under wrote, mike, referring to mike investigation for his participation with the other two pompeo, kurt and i negotiated a men, he would have, he said, not wanted to work with him, im statement from zelensky to be paraphrasing there. Right. Delivered for our review in a this also sort of destroys the fact that Rudy Giuliani now day or two. Has these problems is linked to the contents will hopefully make this probe being carried out by the Southern District of new york and two of his business the boss happy enough the associates have been indicted, boss being the president to really in some ways destroys the authorize an invitation. Narratives that republicans have zelensky plans to have a big laid out this was about battling corruption when you are saying a presser, press conference, on man at the center of this was the openness subject, including part of a corrupt act as represented by the u. S. Justice department filings here. Specifics, next week. All of which referred to the he also in some ways you have seen that contradiction this was 2016 and the burisma. About corruption but also that as jim jordan who is one of the president s staunchest defenders ms. Kenna replied, gordon, ill said on face the nation, rudy pass to the secretary. Thank you. Giuliani was not. Again, everyone was in the loop. He does not work for the u. S. Taxpayer and does not have an oath to the constitution, hes a curiously, and this was very interesting to me, on august personal attorney and he has personal financial interests. 26th, shortly before his visit nancy, were getting ready to hear from the republicans, what to kiev, ambassador boltons do you expect well see . What avenues do they have . Office requested mr. Giulianis well, they are probably going Contact Information from me. To point out that sondland frustrated the democrats this i sent ambassador bolton the morning in a very key way. Information directly. Democrats tried again and again to get sondland to concede that he got directions directly from they requested mr. Giulianis the president to pressure the Contact Information on august ukrainians in the many phone 26th. Calls he had with the president , but he, again and again, insisted that the president never directly told him that, that he inferred it, he came to understand it, that he connected i was first informed the white house was withholding security the dots, but what democrats aid to ukraine during have really been hoping to nail down is that the president conversations with ambassador himself was directly involved in taylor on july 19, 2019. Crafting and executing this quid however, as i testified before, i was never able to obtain a pro quo and sondland continues to dispute the accounts of many clearance regarding the specific reason for the hold, whether it other witnesses who say that was bureaucratic in nature, sondland spoke to the president and then conveyed to them that which often happens, or this is what the president reflected some other concern in the interagency process. Wanted. Investigations in exchange for i never participated in any of releasing the aid and securing a white house meeting. The subsequent dod or dos review so that, no doubt, is going to be top of mind for republicans. Meetings that others have democrats are going to say that described, so i cant speak as hes just doing this in order to to what was discussed in those protect the president. Meetings. One other interesting thing that nonetheless, before the september 1st warsaw meeting, sondland did today that the ukrainians had become aware continues to put him at odds with the other witnesses, norah, that security funds had yet to is that he said that he didnt be dispersed. Understand this connection in the absence of any credible between burisma and the bidens. Explanation for the hold, i came that he never heard that president wanted an investigation into the bidens, to the conclusion that the aid, he heard the president wanted an investigation into burisma. Like the white house visit, was well, frankly, that is just simply not believable because everyone else has testified that jeopardized. In preparation for the september they knew that burisma is the 1st warsaw meeting, i asked company that was paying the vice secretary pompeo whether a president s son, hunter biden, to sit on its board and that facetoface conversation between trump and zelensky would sondland himself is the one in help to break the logjam. Various meetings with ukrainians telling them, you need to this is when President Trump was announce an investigation into still intending to travel to the bidens in order to get the warsaw. Meeting you want with president specifically, on august 22nd, i trump. Didnt ambassador volker say emailed secretary pompeo the same thing yesterday and tim morrison too, like i didnt know directly, copying secretary that burisma meant the bidens . You know, volker did. Kenna. I wrote this is my email to morrison indicated that he secretary pompeo should we block time in warsaw for a short understood. Frankly democrats didnt push volker on that front, but i can tell you a lot of lawmakers pullaside for potus to meet think thats not very believable either. They say anyone who was involved zelensky . I would ask zelensky to look him even tangentially in ukraine in the eye and tell him that policy understood when president once ukraines new justice folks trump or Rudy Giuliani brought are in place in midseptember, up burisma, that theres only one reason they wanted burisma in particular, this one energyc that zelensky he, zelensky, should be able to move forward publicly and with confidence on those issues of importance to biden. All right. Nancy cordes there as we watch potus and the u. S. The ambassador and his attorney hopefully that will help break take center stage in this huge the logjam. Room inside the house of representatives. The secretary replied, yes. I followed up the next day and the hearing has come to asking to get 10 to 15 minutes order. Ranking member nunes for 45 on the warsaw schedule for this. Minutes of questions. I said, wed like to know when i thank the gentleman. Its locked so that i can tell for those of you watching at zelensky and brief him. Home that was not a bathroom break. That was chance for the democrats to go out and hold a executive secretary kenna replied, i will try for sure. Press conference, ambassador, for all the supposed bombshells that were in your opening moreover, given my concerns about the security aid, i have testimony. I want to get back to the facts no reason to dispute that portion of senator johnsons of the matter here and the thing recent letter in which he recalls conversations he i that the democrats have been had on august 30th. By the end of august my belief unwilling to accept is that was that if ukraine did their operatives got Campaign Something to demonstrate a dirt from ukrainians in the 2016 serious intention to fight election. Corruption, and specifically now they know it. They know its true. Addressing burisma and the 2016, we have financial records that show it. Then the hold on military aid would be lifted. So they were the democrats were heavily involved working there was a september 1st with ukrainians to dirty up the meeting with president zelensky Trump Campaign in 2016. In warsaw. So ambassador, i want to go unfortunately, President Trumps attendance at the warsaw meeting through a few of the incidents was canceled due to hurricane that we know. I know you may not know all about them. You may know about them now. Dorian. Vice president pence intendatte but i want to walk through some of those examples of why the president may be very upset with instead. I mentioned to Vice President pence that the delay in aid had ukraine and think that theyre a become tied to the issue of country out to get him as i investigations. I recall mentioning that before the zelensky meeting. Think both youve said that and ambassador volker have said that during the actual meeting, from that may 23rd meeting. President zelensky raised the issue of Security Assistance directly with Vice President the first question i have is, pence and the Vice President were you aware of the antitrump said he would speak to President Trump about it. Based on my previous efforts by dnc operative communication with secretary pompeo, i felt comfortable sharing my concerns with alexandria chalupa . I am not aware of it. Mr. Yermak. It was a very, very brief in theres a 2017 article pullaside conversation that happened within a few seconds. I told mr. Yermak that i believe that also quotes a ukrainian that the resumption of u. S. Aid would likely not occur until parliamentarian art demenko saying, quote, it was clear they ukraine took some kind of action were supporting, meaning on the Public Statement that we ukraine, supporting hillary had been discussing for many clintons candidacy and did weeks. Everything from organizing as my other state Department Meetings from the clinton Team Colleagues have testified, this to criticizing trump. Security aid was critical to i think they simply didnt meet ukraines defense and should not with the Trump Campaign because have been delayed. They thought hillary would win. I expressed this view to many during this period, but my goal at the time was to do what was do you know that ukrainian necessary to get the aid official that stated that . Released, to