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KQED Frontline July 13, 2024

Nondisclosure agreements. Absolutely in fear of death i was not allowed to talk to a journalist. An array of private investigation firms. They completely destroyed me and my image. He had one of the mostms powerful legal tean the country. He got very angry and said, ive investigated you and youre not so clean so be careful. Narrator the fnsiders speaking o the first time. It was the company th was completely and utterly ruled by harvey and harvey was a dictator. Narrator about wha hollywood knew. I think looking back that i c did know andse to suppress it. I chose to hide from that fact. Narrator tonight, a frontline special, weinstein. Frontline is ma possible by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. And by the corporation for jor support is provided by the john d. And catherine t. Macarthur foundation, committed to building a more just, verdant and peaceful world. More information is available at macfound. Org. The ford foundation, working with visionaries on the front lineof social change worldwide. At ford foundation. Org. Additional support is provided by the abrams foundation, committed to eellence in journalism. To heightening public esscated of critical issues. The john and Helen Glessner family trust. Supporting trustworthy journalism that informs and inspires. And by the frontli journalism fund, with major support from jon and jo ann hagler. Ng i was just stary career, it was the early 90s. I was just out of acting school, going on auditions and pounding the pavement. The first time i met him was in a, you know, a legitimd it was meeting set up by my agents. The first moments of that meeting were very easy, eezy, casual you know, welcome to the miramax family. And i felt very much like he was going to take care of me. And then he said, theres a screening this afternoon of one of our movies, you know, you should come. Ill have my car come pick you up. Once i got there i realized it wasnt a special screening with cast and crew, it was just a movie. I wanted to leave, he sort of said, oh ill take you home. We ended up stopping at his house. And then ii ended up going up probably against my better judgment. Once i was in there we had another hourlong conversation about movies and film. And he went into the other room and he came back with. With a robe on, and the robe was just like an open robe. I didnt even look to see, you know. I was just so stunned. There was no suave moves or anything, like there was just a really weird, awkward, will you give me a massage . I had to say just no, and i im not comfortable. He left the room and he came back and he was just fully naked. I ought, hes coming afte me. sighs um. Injust remember sort of da back and forth trying to get past him. You know in that moment that you may not make it. I told him that i was furious, i said, you know, i said, i cant believe youre doing this to me. I dont know if he heard me, but he may have, he might have heard me, i dont know. sniffles i mean, i do. I was able toll figet a. A way out. I knew that if i went up against Harvey Weinstein, i mean, just instinctually, id be squashed. So i was scared. And so i didnt say anything to the people that might have been able to help me. Narrator Katherine Kendall is one of over a hundred women who have come forward with allegations against Harvey Weinstein sincoctober 2017. Many of these women ar suing him. Weinstein declined to be interviewed. But through his spokeswoman, he provided frontline with written responses to the allegations in this film. He denies any criminal conduct. Harvey weinstein was one of the mostowerful people in hollywood for decades, and he was a darling of the arican political world. Any time you have a ory like this where people are getting hurt over decades and decades, there are people around who knew enough and could have done more to stop it. I think this is a momentous reckoning. Bus frankly, i think thereso much more to discover. Who knew about this . How much of a cover up was this . It began in buffalo, it all began in buffalo. It was a brash, young fellow from flushing, queens, who arrived here as an 18yearold freshman at the university of buffalo. I believe henly put in a year before he was just kind of mesmerized by all of the opportunities that awaited him here. Narrator weinstein built up a succeful Concert Promotion business. Then, in 10, he made his first film. It was a go film about a guy that comes back for revenge and murders the people at the camp. screaming narrator 24yearold paulaia wachworked on the film as an intern. One day, she says, she was asked to take some checks to a hotel t room for weinstesign. He was standing there and he hand towel around his waist. I handed him the folder and he dropped the hand towel, and all the while hes asking me questions about checks. And he, at some point, sat dn on the bed, and he plopped the folder on his lap, and then he t started saying, what abis one, and hes pointing. And im not gonna look down so i say, which one is that, harvey . Then he said, i have aa crick in my shlder, he said, could you give me a massage, could you rub it out for me . And at that point i looked at him and i said, harvey, i dont description. In my job arrator another young Woman Working on the film, suza maherwilson, says weinstein approached her at a party after filming had finished. This is the first time shes spoken publicly out it. There was a hotel room rightf the lobby. And thats when he like lured me in there to ve him a massage. And i agreed, ing a 23yearold naive, trusting young woman. He, said, im going to the lavatory and then i. Okay. He came out and he was naked with a towel and it was a little shocking. And i just said, im sorry, this isnt. This isnt what i signed on for. And, ii left the room immediately. Narrator weinstein has sinc said iatement,i came of age in the 60s and 70s. As thathe culture then. In his responses to frontline, he denies paula wachowiaks account, and disagrees on theta s of suza maherwilsons account. I told probably a handful of people, but no one seemed shocked cause he was the producer. We all felt it was typical of someone in a position of power wield that over younger younger girls. Nk i dont tnyone would have listened to m i dont think it would have matter. Im not famous. I didnt think that my story meant anything to anybody. Narrar weinstein soon left buffalo for new york city. Miramax the film company he founded along with his brother bob was expanding. They saw themselves as artists, outsiders to the hollywood system. At miramax were not underor thatrateressure to say, jesus, weve got to go up each year. We can do what we think is good and if our profits a lower next year than they were the year before, so what . So what, as long as we did good work. Narrator the company made its name with movies that mainstream studios ignored. Weinsteins power was growing, and he was working with top hollywood actresses. Ad chatter come on, we g him. Narrator in 1992, sean young, who was already known for movies like blade runner,is starred in hatest film love crimes. Who the bleep are you . District attorney, ass eep . I play a character who discovers tracks them down, and heen tables are turned and is entrapped by him. The wire wt out. I wanted to get him under felony and i needed it on tape. In i was sittin harveys office after the picture. And this is the only time this has ever happened to me, he pulled his. Thing out and my reonse was, you know, harvey, i really wouldnt be pullinghi that out because its really not pretty. And i got upnd i left. Narrator in his responses, weinstein told frontline seano youngs t is untrue, he never met her in his office ore, anywhere end had nothing to do with her career. It was the last time she would work on a miramax film. The reason i didnt get another movie with Harvey Weinstein was that made him feel foolish. I waset to have a very big career, but i upset a few important men, and the trajectory of my career went. Whooo. imitates crash narrator in 1993, miramax was bought by disney, helping weinstein become o of the most powerful producers in hollywood. Disney says it was unaware of any Sexual Misconduct complaints against him. Gu but his coll say he was notoriously difficult to work for. Being in a cult. Ramax was like the cult of harvey. It was common knowledge, everybody knew what a brutal regime it was. He worked beyond the limits ofum normal beings. Ra nr paul webster joined miramax in 1995. This is his First Television interview about weinstein. I knew i was making a deal with the devil. I knew he was a bully, i knew he would stop at nothing to get what he wanted. I knew he had a volcanicemper. I knew he was a dangerous character. But i knew also that he was at the epicenter of where i wanted to be. Narrator despite his stars continued to linohollywood work with him. A part in one of his films could mean artistic credibily, fame, and awards oh, my love i thought you were dead narrator in 1998, 26yearold Gwyneth Paltrows appeared in kespeare in love. cheers and applause h oscars. Bher and weinstein this is a movie about life and art, and art and life combining is cled magic. Narrator weinstein was at the top of the holwood establishment. But a reporter with sources in the movie industry was about him. Ing a disturbing rumor we had heard that Gwyneth Paltrow had been assaulted. We heard it from a director who was very upset about it, and wanted it to be out there. And we thought well, yeah, you know, we gotta try and do this. But there was no path forward at that point at all. If ou call their publicist and say, i wanted to talk to Gwyneth Paltrow because i heard she was attacked by Harvey Weinstein, yocan imagine how that phone call would go. It would be short. laughs narrator paltrow didnt address the rumors at the time, and never accused him of assault. But shes since said that weinsteiharassed her, and that she told her agent, and her thenboyfriend brad pitt, who confronted weinstein. Its a hard choice to make. Shcould take him on or havre her , and im not blaming her for not wanting to take him on. Weve seen in the aftermath,he stroy people who tried to takeo him on. indistinct chatter narrator whatever rumors had been circulating about Harvey Weinstein, his power only grew. Some of the upandcomers who met him say they were unawareof his reputation. In 1998 i was 24. Modeling around the world, i thought i was tough. Narrator z brock met weinstein at the cannes film festival. Wwere taken into the Majestic Hotel to have dner, and that was where i was sat next to harvey. Narrator as the evening was drawing to a close, she says weinstein offered her a ride. Then harvey told us that hed spoken to everybody and they were going to join us at t du cap, where he was staying, which is 30 minutes out of cannes and quite remote. Narrator when they arrived at his hotel, she saysen weinsteinurage disappeared and her friends were nowhere be seen. My friends were never coming, that was a blatant lie. So we get to the hotel room. And i remember sobering up fast. And then harvey walk back in and he was naked. So hes negotiating, hes negotiating a massage. I want a massage. Come on, give me a massage, give me a massage. Just, you know, let me give you a massage. Blah blah blah blah blah. And hes rapid fire, and he takes control of the situaon. I very unwillingly let him maneuver me into his bedroom, and sat. Sat on the bed. I may have even been stupid enough to lie down and he started to massage my shoulders. And within seconds i knew that, that was just not going fly, there was no way this was happening. And i got up and i bolted intoth the om and he chased me. But i rememberocking the door and him being on the other side of it and banging. I screamed at him, put your bleep clothes on you naughtybo bleep and i meant it. And it worked. I came out of the bathroom and he was apologizing, and he. Started to cry. And he said something that i have never forgotten and i never will for the rest of my days, in nbetween his tears, you like me because im fat. I really felt sorry for him in th moment. At that point i had no idea obviously how dangerous he really was. Narrator weinsteins responses to frontline do noty direispute zoe brocks allegations, but say she is publicizing her lawsuit seeking damages from mr. Weinstein, despite the fact that she never complained to anyone at the time. But zoe brock says she told many people. I told my agent. I told so many people in hollywood producers, casting agents everyones reaction across the board was always, oh. Yeah, harvey. Narrator zoe brocks agent denies that she told him. But, aoshollywood, many models and actresses now say they told their agents about weinsteins behavior. The agents had to know. The top agents had to know. And, frankly, any agent who knew what was happening with Harvey Weinstein shld be coming forward now explaining what happened. Narrator one of the most influential talent firms in hollywood, creative artistsha agencysince said in a statement, we apologize to any person the aget down. By now, some inside miramax had started to connect the dots about weinsteins havior. My memory is that i was fully aware that harvey was a serial womanizer. There would be times when youdc bed out ofhe suite in the savoy or the Peninsula Hotel in l. A. , and he would entertain. But it dnt take too much brainpower to put it together that a man who was so abusive and bullying in every aspect o his life would bring that abuse into the sexual arena. I think looking back that i did know and i chose to suppress it. I chose to hide from that fact. N i we were all enablers. I think we were, we were all complicit. Ha could done anything at the time . Well, for one, i never thought about doing anything about it. I know that i prevented my savoy hotel late at ni to the i said, no, you cant go. Sl so, obvii was aware of that. I didnt have the guts to do anything about it. Al i think the d made with the devil was to my advantage. Narrator with no one in hollywood calling him out, weinsteins alleged behavior continued. Zelda perkins was one of his assiants. The first time that i traveled alone abroad with him, tohe insisted that i went he bathroom while he had a sauna because he needed to do work, and i refused to go in the sauna. And he said, well i. This isnt working, im going to have a bath instead. So i tried to lee the bathroom, he said, you cant leave, i need to. We need to get this business done. He was reeling off names of all the actresat he had had some sort of sexual relationsgi with or who han him massages or whatever. And i remember looking round at him and saying, how do you look at yourself in the mirror . How do you how do you do that . And i can remember him looking back at me, utterly nonplussed and saying, i have no problem at all. Narrator in 1998, perkinsmp acied weinstein to the venice film festival, along with a new colleague. She came to me in a very distressed state and told me that he had assaulteher, that hed attempted to rape her. I was completely sideswiped by this. I went straight to harvey and confronted him about what had the life of his wife andnon children that absolutely nothing had happened. Narrator but perkins didnt believe him. She and her colleague quit miramax and went to lawyers inlo on for advice. There didnt seem to be any recourse in terms of bringing harvey to justice. We had no phical proof, we hadnt gone to the police in. On the lido in venice. Really the only optionhat we were given was to request damages. Nartor in negotiation with weinsteins lawyers, they asked for around 200,000 each, and also insisted on measures that would protect miramax employees from harassment therapy sessions for weinstein, a new hr policy, and a clause that could see him fired if he paid off any more women. Weinstein accepted the terms on condition they sign a nondisclosure agreement, or n. D. A. We werent allowed to talk to anybody about the alleged behavior, but also about our time at miramax. This wasnt a normal confidentiality agreement; this wasnt us saying that we werent gonna, you know, give ay corporate secrets. This was a deeply personally binding agreent, which certainly in my colleagues case, meant that she couldn ever speak about a huge personal trauma that happened to her. Narrator perkins would eventually decide to break her n. D. A. But her former colleague has maintained her silence. In his statement to frontline, weinstein deni the attemptedll rapeation, and says that, ms. Perkins asked for money instead of reporting her claims to the authorities. So, you take your check and you try to deal with it as best you can, you know. He got away with it for years, just on the strength of that. Narrator weinstein went on women who accused him of Sexual Misconduct. In his response to frontline, he said, over period of 30 years there were actually less than ten settlements of harassment claims. E and that none of th settlement agreements prevented any individual from going to the police had they wished to do so. The use of n. D. A. S on behalf of weinstein to silence women who agreed to them was an enabling factor. It allowed him to silence complaining victims and just see it as a cost of doing business. N so h that he had nothing to fear from continuing with the behavior that led to the problem in the first place, and again, and again, and again. Narrator 4 years later, a journalist at the new yorker magazine heard that weinstein had been settlinSexual Harassment claims. I had never encountered an n. D. A. , a nondisclosure agreement, and youre talking about large sums of money. And each case hundred, hundreds of thousands of dollars. Narrator he began to investigate. Then he got a name zelda she had moved to guatebut he tracked her down. I picked up the phone and this gentleman asked me directly about whether i had an agreement with Harvey Weinstein. She was really terrifie howd you find me . I think i might have even said, yes, i ha yes, when he said, do you have an agreement with harve and then panicked and was like, no, no, i havent. Yes, i have. No, i havent, no, i cant talk to you. I just knew that one thing that i absolutely in fear of deh i was not allowed to talk to a journalist. N rator perkins wouldnt agree to an interview for aulettas story, but he decided to confront weinstein. We were sitting in a small conference room, across from each other and i said, harvey, tell me about zea perkins. He rose, and he clenched his fists, and he raised his shoulders, and he said, this is nf. You can imagine screaming at me. Started so i thought he was going to throw a punch at me. So i stood up, and that point harvey started to cry. It was eraordinary. And wh

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