Transcripts For KTVU Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace 2024

KTVU Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace July 13, 2024

Of his party, and democrat Sean Patrick Maloney. Then, former new york city mayor and billionaire businessman Michael Bloomberg weighs a late entry into the democratic race for president. Hes not going to do well but i think hes going to hurt by it naturally. Little michael will fail. Chris we will ask our sunday panel how bloombergs possible move could reshape the democratic campaign. And our power player of the week, the iconic horsedrawn caisson performing a solemn duty honoring our nations veterans. All right now on Fox News Sunday. Chris and hello again from fox news in washington. The House Democratic effort to impeach President Trump moves into a key new phase this week, public hearings, in which career Government Officials will testify on camera about how President Trump pressured ukraine to investigate his political rivals. The big question will this change the dynamic of the inquiry that so far has remained strictly partisans . In a moment we will speak with two members of the House Intelligence Committee that will hold the madefortv hearings. Republican will hurd and democrat Sean Patrick Maloney. First lets bring in ellison barber, who has the latest from the white house. Ellison. One of the first witnesses we expect to hear from this week is a career diplomat who testified behind closed doors. It was his understanding that everything, military aid and an oval office visit, was contention contention on ukraine investigating the bidens in 2016. The 45th president cheered at the game of the century hours before the start of the week that could turn his political future upside down. Three public hearings are set to take place on two different dates. On wednesday, the House Intelligence Committee will hear from a top u. S. Diplomat in ukraine and a Top State Department official. On friday, the former ambassador to ukraine. If House Democrats released their close door testimony this week. Taylor argued with the most explosive. If the diplomat testified it was his clear understanding Security Assistance money would not come until the president of ukraine committed to pursue the investigation for less President Trump wanted. President trump continues to call the inquiry the witch hunt continues but claims his party is on the same page. The republicans never been so united. Congressional republicans want to hear from at least 14 witnesses, including former Vice President joe bidens son hunter and the whistleblower was complaint help initiate the impeachment inquiry. Chairman adam schiff responded with a warning, the committee will not serve as vehicles to carry out sham investigations into the bidens or debunked conspiracies about 2016. Rules approved by the house essentially give democrats veto power here. It witnesses must be approved by the chairman of the Intelligence Committee or the full committee. Chris. Chris ellison barber reporting from the white house. Allison, thank you. Joining me now, congressman will hurd, a republican member of the house until committee that will conduct those public hearings this week. Congressman, the Top Republican on house intel, devin nunes, says that he would like to call the whistleblower, the unnamed whistleblower to testify in public in these hearings and heres what President Trump has to say about the whistleblower. The whistleblower is a disgrace to our country, a disgrace, and the whistleblower, because of that, should be revealed. If chris now, the whistleblower report of the works for the cia, where you work for almost a decade. Should his identity be revealed . Should be he called to testify in public . Representative hurd i think we should be protecting the identity of the whistleblower. Ive said that from the very beginning because how we treat this whistleblower will impact whistleblowers in the future. Having this whistleblower law on the books is important. Its an important checks and balance are not only the Intelligence Committee, but what her government. What i do would like to see happen is for adam schiff, chairman schiff, the chairman of the Intelligence Committee to answer questions about what was his engagement with the whistleblower before the information the whistleblowers allegations were transmitted to congress. He has misled the American Public earlier in the year on what he knew about or the contact that he had with the whistleblower, so if you want to protect the identity of the whistleblower i think its important for chairman schiff to answer questions about his interactions with them. Chris what to think about as the republicans are seeking, calling hunter biden, the former Vice President s son, as a witness . Representative hurd i would love to hear from hunter biden, i would love to hear from other americans that served on the board of burisma. Im curious to know of someone who doesnt have any experience in ukraine nor experience International Natural gas Company Comes on board in ukraine. We also need to hear and understand the corruption. We know corruption in the ukraine is an issue. Ambassador taylor has said that in his testimony. Dr. Hill has said that in her testimony. This is something that was a concern even in this current new administration in ukraine, so hearing from people that can help provide insight into that, since that is central to this conversation would be valuable. Chris now, congressman schiff responded last night to the g. O. P. Witness list that had been offered by chairman nunes and heres what he said. The Intel Committee will not be used to carry out the same sham investigations into the bidens and 2016 that the president wanted ukraine to conduct. Given that response, congressman hurd, what does that say about the fairness of a process the democrats are running and holding these hearings . Representative hurd unfortunately, chris, this has been a partisan exercise from the very beginning. One piece of information that comes, people who dont like the president say this is an example for impeachment. People that support the president say this is a you know, evidence of an exoneration. I think we should just turn over every rock and pursue every lead to ultimately get to the truth and its unfortunate that the democrats on the committee and the democrats in the house have created this partisan exercise. In a normal hearing, the minority, the folks that are not in power, have the ability to offer a witness. We cant do that in this case. If under previous impeachment inquiries, the minority and the president has had the opportunity to call witnesses, be involved. The majority of the House Department select committee on intelligence and chairman schiff has prevented some of the lawyers for the administration to come in and be there with the folks that were testifying. Thats not a fair process. If we are interested in trying to uncover the truth, then lets not put our thumb on the scale, but unfortunately thats what this process has been and whats even crazier is there trying to have this completed by the end of the year and i think well have 16 or 17 legislative days left in the year. Half of those days are whats called fly the end, out days. People are coming in from their location. So to try to get that, try to pass nafta, to fund the government, trying to do all that in that short period of time, i think thats next to impossible. Chris your chuckle at the extreme partisanship may be on both sides, republicans and democrats. You are not while you are supportive of the president , you are not a party line supportive. You oppose some of his policies, it for instance, constructing the border wall. Youve opposed and spoken out against some of his language during his time in office. For you, what specifically do you want to learn from these hearings [boos] representative hurd so i think talk about impeachment has been premature. I think impeachment is one of the most important and consequential things a member of congress can do at i think theres 535 different opinions on what impeachment is. To evaluate that question i think its a violation of the law and so i want to see does this establish a criminal intent and yes, for me, i agree when i agree, i agree when i disagree. And i was the guy in the back alleys collecting intelligence. I also did this to embassies. I know how and embassies work and the fact that ukrainian officials werent contacting their u. S. Counterparts until august 29th, when they read in i believe it was a political article about aid being withheld. That was the first time that any ukrainian had contacted a state department or Government Official about this. That was more than a month after the july 25th phone call between the president and president zelensky. What do i want to see . To chris go ahead sir. Representative hurd what i want to see is their inability to establish criminal intent, do the ukrainians know that this was some kind of quid pro quo. When you look at our relationship between the u. S. And ukraine over the last three years, theres been no more aid going to ukraine this administration than the previous administration. Ukraine is an important partner. Chris let me ask you specifically though about this because there seem to be two issues one that are part of the quid pro quo. One was military aid, one was the meeting that ukraine very much wanted between their president zelensky and President Trump. If all three of the witnesses that are going to testify this week you see them up there, william taylor, george kent, marie yovanovitch, say there was a clear connection between support for ukraine, various forms of the u. S. Support for ukraine and ukraine investigating the democrats. If you are satisfied that that is true, that there was this connection, this nexus, is that an Impeachable Offense . Representative hurd i dont know if it was necessarily investigate the democrats. I think it was investigation of corruption chris forgive me, sir, but specifically what President Trump said on that fifth phone call was investigate the democratic role in the 2016 election, whether they were involved in hacking the dnc server and also specifically the bidens and burisma. Representative hurd welcome on the 2016 elections, some of that information was based on what has been kind of fringe thinking, but back when even democrats start investigating, there was a ukraine nexus, so trying to get to the bottom of that, is that a violation of the law . Was that an understanding based on debunk information . It yes. But is it a violation of the law . I dont think so. Chris but specifically, sir, the question is if there was a quid pro quo, u. S. Aid for ukraine was going to depend on their doing is investigations of political rivals of the president. Is that an Impeachable Offense . Representative hurd i think if youre trying to get information on a political rival to use in a Political Campaign is not something a president or any official should be doing. I think everybody has most republicans have said that would be a violation of the law. Chris so that, in your view, if that were established to your satisfaction, f, i repeat, that would be an Impeachable Offense . Representative hurd i believe that is something that would make it have to truly consider whether impeachment is the right tool or not. Chris we will see what happens this weekend whether or not it persuades you. Congressman hurd, thank you so much, thanks for your time, good to talk with you, sir. Representative hurd thank you, chris. 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It includes hunter biden, the unnamed whistleblower, and nellie ohr, who folks may remember she worked for fusion gps, which sought information from sources and ukraine and put out the steele dossier. Will democrats agree to call any of these witnesses . And if you dont, what does that say about the fairness of this entire proceeding . Congressman maloney well, i cant speak for the chairman, but what i can tell you is that i think we will end up calling some of the witnesses on that list and heres my test. My test is, do these witnesses have Important Information, knowledge, or evidence about the president s conduct . And if it passes that test, then we should call them, sure. Chris so specifically, hunter biden, nellie ohr, the unnamed whistleblower. Do any of them pass that test and therefore should be called . Congressman maloney the first two, no. The third one youve just heard congressman hurd give a very eloquent explanation of why we dont force the revelation of a whistleblowers identity, so no in all three cases, but for different reasons. Chris lets focus on hunter biden. Hunter biden is at the center of this. There are allegations of corruption. You know, there certainly are questions why a fellow named hunter biden would get a big job and ukraine when his father was then the Vice President and conducting relations with ukraine. Isnt that a fair person to talk to . Congressman maloney let me ask you, mr. Wallace, what information mr. Biden, hunter biden, a private citizen who was broke no laws by serving on the board of directors, would have about the president s withholding of military aid to ukraine . In other words, he has no knowledge of what the president did or didnt do here, that is the subject of the impeachment inquiry. There are certainly questions, of course, and many people have asked them, but its not relevant to this weeks hearings. Chris i dont have the list right in front of me but you obviously saw it. Youre a member of the committee. Which member of the republican potential witnesses would you agree to call . Congressman maloney there witnesses on the republican list to have been interviewed in depositions already and of course those transcript are going to be released fully and so i would expect the witnesses who have been interviewed, because they have Material Information, would be likely called in public, but again, those are not chris for instance, kurt volker, a special emissary to ukraine . Congressman maloney he testified for the committee, so did mr. Morrison. Those witnesses are on the list. Mr. Hale is similarly a witness who has been interviewed, is on the list. Those of the witnesses i have in mind, but again, this is not my decision. I cant speak for the chairman, but those witnesses do have Material Information about the president s conduct in this case. Thats the proper focus of this inquiry and if i could just say, chris, i hope your viewers will keep an open mind. If this is Veterans Day Weekend, god bless all who serve and where the countrys uniform as my dad did, as my grandfather did. You know, these are also military veterans. Ambassador taylor was an infantry officer with 101st Airborne Division in vietnam, served in combat. West point graduate. Lieutenant colonel benjamin earned a purple heart in iraq. These are veterans and credible witnesses. I hope people will keep an open mind and hear their testimony unfiltered and read the transcript. By all means, they are all coming out in public. Chris lets talk about another apparently nonwitness at that point and that his National Security advisor former National Security advisor john bolton. Here is what his lawyer wrote this week to the committee. Bolton was involved, according to his lawyer, in many relevant meetings and conversations that have not yet been discussed in the testimonies thus far. Continuing the quote, if the house chooses not to pursue through subpoenas the testimony of ambassador bolton, let the record be clear, that is the houses

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