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charges are relatively an dine, and some of the charges of conduct would not arise to a felony, in te aggregate it becomes -- in a way they become a much larger case with the mafia or mob or street gangs. that's the broader claim being made here. in a trial, this could be unwieldy. jurors could have a hard time keeping track of the details and that's a 19-person indictment. it could be unwieldy, but in terms of playing to the public for this stage of the case, it is incredibly effective. >> yeah. and edward, in conclusion, i got about 40 seconds, when i showed the trump spokesperson. we gave her time, we were trying to understand in late november what she was doing -- the