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that's a key swing group. can joe biden win over 20% of nikki haley voters? that might be determining and i think trump was trying to reach that voter last night with trumpy aside mixed in there and some crazy comments because, of course, he's donald trump. he was actively trying to reach that voter. >> kimberly? >> yeah, i think that is right. i don't know that donald trump is such a political tactician that he's thinking about peeling off 10% here and 20% there. i think he's so used to doing what he has been doing for six years and having it work out the first time, not work the second, but he denied it didn't work out the second time. he's so fueled by personal grievance and so far that's been -- that has kept the core