Proving once and for all there is no real civil war between the trump republicans and the establishment bush era holdovers. If there ever was, its over. One side absolutely walloped the other. Not only did the republicans not discipline this member, according to reports. A lot of people in the caucus apparently gave her a Standing Ovation. A division in the party has been amplified because of two contentious figures that the gop house caucus has been trying to figure out what to do with. Now, the first is georgia congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene. Representing the trump republicans, much of the Republican Base, she is a wealthy Construction Heiress who shifted her district to a district she didnt live in and spreading insanely violent conspiratorial nonsense on the internet. Rothchild jewish lasers started California Wildfires and support for executing prominent democrats including Speaker Pelosi. Just today mother jones reported she was a moderator featuring Death Threats and racist memes. This afternoon the house rules committee, of course under the control of democrats, passed a resolution to strip greene of her Committee Assignments and they did that because republicans wouldnt do anything. They did it after minority leader Kevin Mccarthy declined to take care of it within the Republican Caucus. Speaker pelosi responded with a Press Release Blasting Mccarthy for handing the keys to the party to greene and referring to the gop leader as mccarthy q california. According to multiple reports, greene apologized to her republican colleagues in private for her past comments tonight, although the extent of the apology is a little unclear. The caucus reportedly gave her a Standing Ovation when she was finished speaking. Meanwhile her public rhetoric is growing increasingly hostile and apocalyptic. Thats Marjorie Taylor greene. On the other side of this socalled civil war in the Republican Party, another woman in congress, congresswoman liz cheney, who is, of course, another heiress. In this case the heiress to the dick cheney political line. Also like greene, she moved to run for office, in this case from virginia to wyoming. Ask cheney represents a Chamber Of Commerce Neocon ServetiveRepublican Party of the bush years. Now, to cheneys real credit, she voted to impeach the leader of the Republican Party donald trump with a very, very strong statement about him inciting a mob Of Insurrectionists to overrun the capitol. For that liz cheney is now facing the possibility of being voted out of house leadership. In fact, House Republicans are meeting about this right now. She has fellow republican congressman matt gaetz showing up in wyoming to attack her leading a republican civil war against her. But stop yourself and ask this question. If liz cheney ran against Marjorie Taylor greene in a president ial primary for the republican nomination, who would the heck do you think would win between the two of them . I think we know the answer. In fact, in 2016 we had a near approximation of it in trump versus jeb, and look what happened there. The reason for that is donald trump and Marjorie Taylor greene are closer to the primary voting base of the Republican Party than liz cheney. And the problem for the cheney faction, if you can even call it that, is they have nothing to offer. The Republican Party right now faces a choice between being the loyal opposition and being essentially a seditionist caucus opposed to democracy. Remember, right now as i speak to you, the majority of republican members of congress is on the record voting for the latter, voting to overturn the democratic election, okay. So those in the Republican Party who, again to their credit, want to at least stay on this side of that line, to stay the loyal opposition. They have no affirmative argument for what the Republican Party should be that has any appeal whatsoever to republican primary voters. Forget other voters. Senate minority whip john thuney perfectly embodied that message to marginally taylor greene, quote, asking the party do they want to be limited fiscal responsibility, prolife, or do they want to be the party of Conspiracy Theories and qanon . I got news for you, senator thune. No one wants those first things you listed as a Republican Party. At least the first part of it. I mean, lets be clear. The Republican Party doesnt actually stand for that. The trump years were not free market when he sent tens of billions of dollars to farmers unilaterally and limited government to do it unilaterally and adding a whole new space force and enormous recordsetting deficit for corporations. No one is buying what youre selling, Chamber Of Commerce republicans. You cann win the battle for the soul of your party with that platform because no one actually wants it, no one in the base wants it, swing voters want it, no one wants it. The people in the base of the Republican Party want to destroy the opposition. They want the country ruled by them, no matter what. And if that takes overturning elections and changing the lawes so that certain kinds of people cant vote, or whipping a mob up into intimidate members of congress, so be it. The Republican Base wants the government to help them when they need it. They dont oppose Big Government in any way at all. But they want it to keep power away from the people they see as their enemies. They want to own the libs. They want to fight cancel culture. Thats the sum total of what the base wants, the substantive agenda. They also want to ban abortion, i should say. Thats what they want. Now, a new Quinnipiac Poll shows twothirds of republicans support 1400 stimulus payments to americans because, a, theyre right. Thats a good thing it would help everyone. John thune, they dont care whatever principles you have about the free market and helping yourself and all that nonsense. All this wrestling about what the Republican Party is and isnt through the the figure of Marjorie Taylor greene is somewhat bizarre in the sense that donald trump was the president the last four years. He was the head of the Republican Party. And days before he left office, his Approval Rating among republicans was 87 . And thats even after he got hundreds of thousands of People Killed in a plague, and tried to overturn 240 straight years of american democracy. 87 , donald trump was exactly what the Republican Base wants. Talk about the current state of the gop, republican congressman from florida. Well, youve kind of lived this in some ways. What do you think of my analysis of where the civil war stands . Well, chris, look, youre right. This is not a debate about policy within the House Republican conference any more. This is a debate about the truth versus lies. Marjorie taylor greene, apparently has been applauded for embracing a series of lies, and liz cheney, who, by the way, i have heard is not apologizing for the decision she made, right now as she meets with her fellow House Republicans, she is under attack simply for recognizing the truth, for recognizing what happened on the 6th Of January and who was responsible for that, primarily, of course, the former president of the united states, mr. Trump. So thats the dynamic. This is not about low taxes versus high taxes. Back in the good old days, republicans would get in trouble for breaking tax pledges. Now apparently they get in trouble for recognizing the truth. So heres what i think has happened. I think two things have happened. One is i think the modern conservative orthodoxy which has synthesized and brought into majority by Ronald Reagan is in some ways a victim of its own success. Taxes have been cut a ton since 1980. Focusing on tax cuts everywhere you go has diminishing returns. Two, has ideologically crumbled. The notion of it and the context that bore reaganism isnt there any more. And the ideology behind it is desiccated. You see the cross left. Thats the problem. Its like the liz cheneys or adam kinsingers, carlos curbelos, dont go with the nuts, go with us. Why . What have you got . Well, chris, i think thats a good point that maybe it is a victim of its own success, and thats why about ten years ago the Republican Party essentially became the party of no. They just started saying no to everything and donald trump, being an opportunistic person as he has been his whole life, saw that party, saw that it really didnt start standing for nothing and decided to hijack it. And here we are today where the party cannot even accept Simple Truths. And a party that cannot accept Simple Truths and cannot condemn lies cannot really put out there an agenda or a set of proposals for people to follow or to embrace. And people who dont recognize the truth and who dont express Simple Truths, its very difficult for them to lead. So right now, and to their credit, Mitch Mcconnell and john thune and liz cheney and others are trying to wage this war, but it sure seems like theyre going to come up short. Yeah, and i think there is a relationship here. It was interesting to me the governor of West Virginia, the trumpiest, the reddest states in the union are pushing for this relief bill. Saying dont worry about the deficits. I think he knows where his contingents are at. If the choice of the Republican Party is 1400 checks and qanon and possibly the execution or political enemies, thats one way to go. Or its bad to talk about the executioner political enemies. We should uphold democrat kra kra city and worry about the deficit and dont give the 1400 checks. That second wing is not in good shape. Thats not the winning wing right now. The lesson for republicans in the last four years, chris, has been that as long as youre okay with trump right. You can pretty much be for anything you want. Anything. And that is not a coherent way of Going Forward for a party. Win a majority of the public support. Youre right. Its trump, but its sort of against the libs, right . If youre fighting the other side and i think abortion, abortion can use a litmus test. Those are it. Basically its that, its a freerunning field ideologically after that in this fight. Carlos curbelo, thank you for giving us a little bit of your expertise tonight. I really appreciate it. Thank you, chris. Good night. There is a strategy the right wing media turns to again and again when people line with their side, something defensible and point to and say, hey, what about that . All the time. For example, a republican president whipped up a mob Of Insurrectionists, they attacked the u. S. Capitol in violent pursuit of overturning a legitimate election. The right wing media went to the old playbook. Instead of reckoning with what had happened, what their side had done, what about antifa . They are now doing this Again Predictability again with Marjorie Taylor greene. A member of congress who has literally signalled support for the murder of democratic lawmakers. I think she says it was somone managing her page. This was fox news, suggesting a double standard in the treatment of greene and democrat ilhan omar, someone who has not had support for killing her fellow lawmakers. House republicans are using the same tactic as their media ally. This afternoon in response, congresswoman omar released a statement that reads, in part, quote, lets be clear. This is a desperate smear rooted in racism, misogyny, a lot of phobia. Instead of holding her accountable theyre fanning the flames. Republicans will do anything to distract from the fact they have not to allow elevated members of their caucus to its time to stop the violence of Conspiracy Theorists who pose a threat to their fellow members of congress and our most fundamental democratic processes. Joining me for her first interview in all this is democratic Representative Ilhan Omar of minnesota. Representative congresswoman, did you expect that you would be pulled into this because you had become kind of the a goto figure in these moments for the Republican Party . Sadly this is the republican playbook. We saw it with donald trump, that any time they are faced with consequence for their actions to undermine our democracy, they blame immigrants, they blame black people, they blame women. I just happened to embody all of these identities and i just want to make sure, chris, that we are clear on this. This is not about me and it should not be about me. This is about a member of the Republican Caucus who has repeatedly incited violence and republicans cant just wave a magic wand and attack the black congresswoman. It was notable that there has been a fundraising effort using you. Fundraising, the democrats are trying to expel me from congress. It was interesting, the democrat behind there is you, not Speaker Pelosi or house leadership. I think everyone understands what that is about. I guess my question is this. There is this dynamic that functions now where she will use this attention, right . And this sort of oppositional to fund raise. Do you think about breaking out of this cycle on how to do it, if there is anyway out of it . No. I mean, you know, the republicans truly have lost their way. Their party is destroyed. Their base now is Conspiracy Theorists. Its cowards. Its opportunists. Its grifters and sadly they are becoming the loony tunes. People we cant take serious. Theyre not here to do the peoples business. They are here to just be obstructionists and make a mockery of not just our government, but our country. There is, of course, this individual congresswoman who is the subject of this question today in this house rules committee, attracted attention, she ran because of this ad with her with a gun next to you and other democratic lawmakers. It just seems to me that and you tweeted about this, about feeling like the sense of threat or menace, alexandria ocasiocortez talked about this. We saw it embodied in january 6. This is not theoretical. But just the degree to which physical intimidation, the threat of violence, of menace, of armed people has entered into the oxygen, the atmosphere of the building and the place you work that should be a question of sort of debating politics. Yeah, i mean, and so many people have asked, you know, could there be violence . Could this lead to violence . You know, they seem to forget that five people have already lost their lives in the events of january 6th, including a Capitol Police officer. Hundreds more people could have. We currently have members of congress who are moving their offices away because they fear for their lives, you know. Alex talked about the trauma that she is living with and has lived with since january 6th. I sent a text message to my exhusband and told him, you know, if i dont make it out, please make sure you tell my children i love them. This is not a joke. This is not a game. These people are threatening to our environment. They are threatening our ability to do our work. They are really making it hard for people to survive and exist in a free democracy where debate and discourse is supposed to be celebrated. We are now living in a situation where every single caucus conversation, its about, you know, where can we find resources for security . How are we supposed to check if our Panic Buttons are working, you know. Can we buddy up and walk the hallways because we are afraid of our own colleagues. This is insane. No other Work Environment that is this toxic would sustain itself, and we cant sustain ourselves as members of congress in this situation. The final question is, is there something that these members can do to cross back over the line . Whether its Marjorie Taylor greene, whether its the others that voted to overturn this election . What would do that . What would be a way, when you say its unsustainable, short of removing them from congress, which i think probably wont happen and i think there are democratic arguments for why that wouldnt be ideal. What could happen . They can show leadership. They can decide not to turn the key over the key of their party over to this conspiracy theorist, White Supremacist, violent and dangerous member of congress. They can hold her accountable. They can hold so many