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MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson July 11, 2024

Weekly News Conference said to happen later this hour. We will bring it to you live. And the enemy within, secretary lloyd austin orders every branch of the military to stand down over the next two months, after an investigation of homegrown extremism within its ranks goes on. We are live with that development coming up. Im Hallie Jackson In Washington Along With Garrett Haik and former Virginia Republican congresswoman barra comstock. Garrett, let me start with you. We are expecting to see some stuff go down in the house today. You have new reporting from your team and your sources pulling back the curtain on what went on behind the scenes in that gop meeting. Reporter a fivehour meeting, House Republicans are trying to figure out who they will be in the postdonald trump era. The solution they came to for now is try to make the tent as big as possible. Room for both Liz Cheney On One Side and Marjorie Taylor green on The Other Side. Neither member will be punished or chastened in anyway by the conferencech when it comes to taylor green, sources said she tried to explain her past positions. Some describe it as an apology, some not quite, essentially backing away from the qanonand the parkland shootings. House Minority Leader Kevin Mccarthy explained what she said and part of his response this way. I think it would be helpful if you could hear exactly what she told all of us. Denouncing qanon. I dont know if i said it right. I dont know what it is. Any from the shootings. She said she knew nothing about lasers and all the Different Things that have been brought up about her. Reporter i think it would be helpful if they could hear what Marjorie Taylor green said in that hearing. They would like to hear some denunciation of qanon in a public forum. That has been lacking thus far. That will lead us to this vote later this afternoon along party lines, to strip her of her Committee Assignments. That will be an unprecedented step by democrats. Republicans think its overreach. Thats the direction we are headed about 4 00 5 00 this evening. What are the chances, not to ask you a lottery question, based on your reporting, is there any possibly that Marjorie Taylor green does apologize for some of this . Reporter i think thats highly unlikely. She gave an interview with oan and backed away from the Parkland School shooting stuff. Her broader public posture has been all defiant. Theyre coming from for me, because they want to come for you. That language. Id be surprised to see a full mea culpa from the freshman congresswoman. Garrett called it a big tent. Are we not talking about a Bigger Tentt Stadium that has room for Marjorie Taylor green and liz cheney, congresswoman cheney is survived easily this other test to continue keeping her role in leadership. This is still a party of trump here. They talk about a big tent. Kevin mccarthy was down with donald trump last week. He was down in maralago Visiting Trump down there. I mean, we had the, you know, the hours after the january 6th attack, you still had a hardened 40 republicans vote not to certify joe bidens president ial victory. So, yeah, there is, cheney survived this, but there is no question about this. This is still the party of trump. I was talking to a republican congressman yesterday who wants do run for senate and the first thing this guy said to me was, you know, who is going to get the trump endorsement . Is there Establishment Lane . Is there a trump lane . Thats where this party is. So i mean, cheney survived this, yes, with mccarthys help. But there is no question that donald trump still is the most powerful and most influential member of the Republican Party. I wonder, congressman comstock, to his point, it was a Secret Ballot to keep liz clan in a Senior Leadership here. I imagine the reporting teams are working on this, there was a sizable protrump contingent, who is procheney. This wasnt a referendum down the middle on President Trump. It was cheney, herself. How do you see it . I think you saw people are moving away from donald trump. You already seen that in the senate with statements saying we have to be a postpandemic party and the people are going to be winning. I think you saw that very strongly last night with over 70 of the vote. Remember, matt gaetz and jim jordan say they have 700 signatures. That was bologna. They once again, the Freedom Caucus frequently shows its political impotence. They did that again last night. What liz cheney did was put together that big tent and the future of the party. And there are a lot of people who resent they are bullied by the Freedom Caucus and i think because they are a loud but sort of incapable movement. They cause a lot of trouble. But they dont get things done. So i think you are going to see a more of a moveaway. Marriagery green i think there will be bipartisan vote today. Not many republicans, but some, kicking her off committees. I predict eventually she will be kiblgd out of the party because she will not renounce these things. She should be on the house floor renouncing it and with a colloquy going through all of these things why she was wrong. And if she doesnt do Something Like that, shell keep making statements like she did to the Washington Examiner yesterday that were attacking republicans for not standing up for these things that are absurd and outrageous and qanon does not belong in our party. So i think eventually they will kick her out of the caucus, too. Id rip off the bandaid and be done with her. But thats the challenge that they have. But she does not represent the future and i dont think she will be reelected. Its interesting you talk about eventually. Because i have a hard time seeing how that happens before 2022. Right, be every the midterms when there is still this set of donald trump, the former president. Yep, but she wont be passing any bills. She wont be getting anything done. Nobody is going to work with her. She basically is going to come look for tv outlets, shes in the very effective there. Just like the Freedom Caucus. Most of them go on tv. They were Defense Attorneys for donald trump and they got him impeached twice. So they arent an Effective Group of people so if you want an effective majority to grow the majority, will you go with the broad consensus represented last night in the vote for liz. Thats how we get back on track and the new faces of our party, id like people to see young kim, michelle steel, the first korean women republicans in congress. People like Ashley Henson in iowa already working to get people back to schools. We have a lot of new governors and new faces of our party and this is not going to be one thats going to be around long. Where does this leave then Kevin Mccarthy . You saw Speaker Pelosi with that statement out last night, often, a formal print language that you put rcalifornia or whatever the party. She put qcalifornia. Mccarthy is saying i dont know what qanon is or how to pronounce it. Where does this leave the Minority Leader . You have comstock talking they may move on without the Marjorie Greens of the world and donald trump v calling having Phone Conversations with congresswoman green at the same time. We have stopped 10,000 National Guard troops up here guarding the capitol a month after it was raided by trump supporters. So were a long way from moving past trump. Look, mccarthy has to walk the line here. He needs trump not to attack his members. Mccarthy wants to be speaker in 2022. Thats his number one goal. Thats what he wants more than anything. Hes wanted this for eight years, six years now. He almost became speaker in 2018. He really wants to be speaker in 2022. To do that, he needs trump to stay out of the primary and not defeat his members or not fund opponent, potential opponent so he needs to walk the line between trump and he needs to get back into the suburbs where you know there was a lot of concern about the qanon movement. That violence we saw on january 6th. So hes going to, you know walk a narrow road trying to see if there is a future Party Without trump or without some of the more violent elements that trump inspired even if trump is not responsible for what they ultimately do. Garrett, 30 second left. Final thoughts to you. Well, Congresswoman Comstock has won more elections than i have. Down in Marjorie Greens is the one of the ten most districts in the country. I think being on television and combative in Donald Trumps favor may be enough to protect her down there. Republicans are so close to the majority. They can smell it. They can get redriktd into the majority. They are trying to walk a very fine line the next yearandahalf. Cigar ret no, you made a good point. Redistricting could put her in jeopardy as well. Thank you all. For a lively conversation as always. Thank you again. I appreciate it. Well see you soon, this story, of course, is not going anywhere. Even as the Republican Party is confronting extremism. In its ranks, so is the pentagon with a standdown order. Not a term were used to hearing for the entire u. S. Military. But that is the direct order coming from the top. Secretary of defense lloyd austin. He is ordering a pause of operation in the next 60 days to let each branch deal with extremism and White Supremacy within its ranks. Kevin, big news overnight. Right. Its extraordinary. Its triggered, in large part, entirety, by the January 6th Insurrection and the reports coming out, extremism, some of the people who showed up with ties to the military. Reporter yes, this is a buildup not just of january 6th, in the last year, the black lives matter protests and faceoff with proud boys and the more we learn about them, the more we see there are higher numbers of veterans and military and experience with knows groups. So you know, extremism is the ranks is not a few issue. Neither is extremism in the general population. I was looking back at a story i wrote in 2009 about a facebook for fascists that was created about The Law Center had found where even back then you found people boasting about their open extremist views, while in uniform. It was like a fake facebook for extremists. What is different now is this pause. All units across the world are supposed to take a day and have conversations and report up the chain. Already, though, what reporters are asking and a lot of skeptics are asking is, so what . What happens then . Military leaders have been saying for decades they have a problem in the ranks. They know they have a problem in the ranks. And similar to the rise and racism. So what will you do about it . What can be done about it . Right now the pentagon is saying they dont have enough data to figure this out. Thats what they are hoping to get to. How does this actually work . What hard evidence would the secretary have to see to first of all order Something Like this . What do you you need to take actual action . What is the tangible piece that comes out of this . Reporter it depends on what are you looking for, starting with recruiting, john kirby, the old press secretary who is back, makes a point of saying, when recruits walk in, if you flagged something in their past, on their online history in their own words, often that data is collected by the fbi, someone else that did the screening. Not necessarily in the military. Or it might be in the army, not the navy. And theyve already found all the Different Services had different ways that they screen. There is no rulebook. There is no ask this question and if they posted this many times and the army and the military is also grappling with free speech. If you are not in the military yet, you can say a lot more things than you can in the military. Once you are in, though, there are pretty strict rules. There are things they say you cant have extremist views. Those arent defined. What if are you a fan of marriagery green . Are you an extremist . Well, if are you a member of the proud boys in canada, you are considered a terrorist. Not here. There are a lot of questions to be ironed out. Great points, great questions. I know you will be among those in the Pentagon Press corps working to get to the bottom of them. Thank you very much. Coming up here, its gop politics, you have democrats Ploug Plowing ahead with their covid plan. And the left when of the party is now putting on the president s plate, possibly setting up what could be his first crash with progressives. 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That, of course, is secretary janet yellin this morning. In her first interview since being sworn in as Treasury Secretary, as the first woman Treasury Secretary over on gma. You heard her there echoing President Bidens call to go big on his 2 trillion relief plan. The House Voighted along party lines overnight to move forward with the process that would require simple majority vote, meaning, they could move ahead with no republican support if they had to. And next hour, actually in just about 40 minutes or so, democrats will have their own message for President Biden. Go big on something else, canceling Student Loan Debt. They are pushing him to get up to 50,000 in Student Loans altogether. Leeanne caldwell is on capitol. What is the process for covid relief, it seems that train is leaving the station with or without republicans on board . Reporter thats right, it is leaving the station. Its basically at its first stop to move this process forward. Joe biden has said Behind Closed Doors that he wants members to not only go Big But Go Fast and that is exactly what theyre doing. But also Behind Closed Doors, he has indicated that there are, programs, some areas of compromise around these direct stimulus checks. He doesnt want to change the top line number of 1,400 per person. But he is open, according to sources, that he could change the eligibility. So making it more targeted. So in reality, fewer people would get it. But staffers in both chambers are starting to write the actual legislation of this covid relief bill as we speak. Theyve got a week and a half to do it before we could see some more legislative texts. But then as you mentioned, there is this other fight thats brewing regarding Student Loans. Chuck schumer wants 50,000 of Student Loans cancelled. Let me step in there. Yeah. Only because we are showing people Chuck Schumer on the left sid

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