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MSNBC Deadline White House July 11, 2024

Describes as a hoch is all too real. He greg gutten berg joined or Rachel Maddow last night. If she wants to keep referring to me as a liberal mob, have it it. Im a dad. I remember a day in this country not long ago where two parties maybe disagreed on policy and they would argue things out, but they didnt disagree on facts. They didnt disagree on working for the American People. This party today gave up on that. It is shocking. So if they want to keep her around, if they want to continue to give her this platform, it only hurts the bigger party. What this means, 199 republicans care more about the qanon vote than victims of mass School Shootings. Today Marjorie Taylor greene stated as much, declaring the Party Takeover officially complete, as if that wasnt already clear, telling reporters explicitly, quote the party is his, Donald Trumps. It doesnt belong to anyone else. That statementunder scores the warnings from republican senator ben sasse last night in a too little too late Screed Throwing in against the personality thats engulfed his own party. Lets be clear the the anger in the state party has never been about any violating principles or abandoning conserve policy. Im one of the most conservative voters in the senate. The anger has always been simply about me not bending the knee to one guy. Something has definitely changed over the last four years, but its not me. Personality cults arent conservative. Conspiracy theories arent conservative. Lying that an election has been stolen, its not conservative. Acting like politics is a religion, it isnt conservative. You are welcome to censure me again, but lets be clear about why this is happening. Its because i still believe, as you used to, that politics isnt about the weird worship of one dude. The party could purge trump skeptics, but id like to convince you that not only is that civic cancer for the nation, its just terrible for our party. The Qanon Takeover Of The Gop is where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. Jake sherman is back. Also joining us charlie sykes, and alicia menendez. Jake, i want to start with you. Whats so amazing to me is that those of us who cover this and ben sasse is right, its not a shift to the right. Its an up down things,ist a descent into Conspiracy Theories and the power appeared grip of the qanon vote. I feel like this was a mistake in the way we waited with bated breath to see how it turned out. All but ten republicans voted to save her reend. We thought it would be between zero and seven, the only reason it was so many is a bunch of florida republicans, who were not expected to vote with the democrats, did vote with the democrats. There was no suspension. The thing is this theyre arguing this is not about what she said, but about an institutional concern, and nancy pelosi and steny hoyer reported that as well, if were setting a new precedent, maybe we should set a new precedent that somebody who jokes about murdering the democratic leadership should not have committee seats. This is not going away, nicolle, because its not just Marjorie Taylor greene who says things that are outside of the mainstream not of conservatism, you know this well, nicolle, its not outside the mainstream of the Republican Party, but its outside the mainstream of society, right . These are not things that are not only not acceptable on capitol hill, but if earp to walk into many places in normal society and say you want to murder, you know, a leader of a business or a speaker of the house, or sympathize with those comments, thats bizarre behavior that should be repudiated anywhere. I think Kevin Mccarthy has a challenge going forward, but its not only going to be Marjorie Taylor greene. Theres a bunch of other members who in the past have said things. Were having an argument over whether members of congress should be permitted to bring firearms onto the house floor. The things up here im in the capitol now have taken a turn for the bizarre and dangerous in a way weve all been involved in politics a long time. Were talking about bringing firearms onto the house floor and wondering why there needs to be Metal Detectors. So things have really gotten off the rails. Its Worth Fleshing out something you just said, though, jake sherman. Shes not in the position shes in because shes too far right. Shes in the Position Baas they endorsed political assassinations. Now, i believe people have been charged and prosecuted for that crime when they said those kinds of things about the last president. I believe it is a crime if you make the kinds of threats that she endorsed for former president obama, Hillary Clinton and nancy pelosi. Where does the comfort come from, to be okay with the violence piece in that building that, as you said, is still a crime scene and still so fraught and taut that theres tension about whether or not members should be able to carry guns on the floor . If you talk and im not going to endorse this point of view, just report it here. What Republican Leadership says, is there needs to be a line. If we could hold people to account for comments that they made before they came to congress, you could think of that what you want. I think thats a Blanket Statement that doesnt hold value to me, but thats what they say. We could hold Everybody Accountable for things they said before voters rendered their judgment. If they say it while theyre here, well take care of it. Well punish them. January 6th changed everything for everyone up here, including reporters, including members of congress. I mean, our workplace, the capitol was sacked by a bunch of Trump Supporters who were violent Trump Supporters, and i think that i had a member tell me, every time they look at Marjorie Taylor greene, they think of that day and the danger that Trump Supporters brought to the capitol. Charlie sykes, i want to put up the names of the 11 republicans lawyers i misspoke, i said ten as jake said, a lot of them come from florida, who know all too quell the Parkland Shooting was real. Adam kinzinger is an outspoken, did you its an undistinguished group because of its size. Where do we go from here . Whats next . Well, i mean, the number is so significant, you have 11 republicans willing to remove Marjorie Taylor greene from her committees, you know, despite her calls for violence, et cetera. The night before, 61 republicans vote to do remove liz cheney for taking a principled stand on impeachment. You know, i am really struck by the political malpractice by Kevin Mccarthy who has managed to elevate Marjorie Taylor greene as the face of the Republican Party. If he had any sense whatsoever of political hygiene, republicans could have taken this on their own. You remember, it was just two years ago that republicans stripped steve king of his seats on the judiciary and agriculture committees because of bigoted comments he made. Flash forward, flonl do they not do to Marjorie Taylor greene what they did to steve king, but they allowed this vote where 199 republicans now are on record say, yeah, were okay with this person being our partys representative. Look, this is something that the republicans could have done themselves. They could have cleaned house. A lot of these republicans will go back to the district saying we didnt want to set a precedent. The question that should be asked, why didnt you fix it yourself . This has just backfired on them so predictably. Shes just rubbing it in their faces, and republicans could have sent the message that this is not who we are, but instead last night, because of that vote and the unwillingness for Kevin Mccarthy to pull the trigger, because of that vote, theyre saying, yeah, Marjorie Taylor greene is a member in Good Standing of the Republican Party. Remember that when each of those 199 republicans are on the ballot next year. I want to read you something that conservative republican senator kevin cramer wrote in an oped what her repugnant comments can teach us all, greenes comments have been characterized as far right. Theyre not. Theyre not based on an extremely conservative ideology. Theyre horrifying and completely untethered to reality. Congresswoman greenes remarks are not conservative and allowing them to stand without consequence is unacceptable. The people of georgia should closely consider whether she should continue representing them. They comments and the controversy offer a rare moment when anger is justified and action should be taken. Thats not always the case. I understand what hes trying to say here, charlie, but i have to say, as somebody who worked in republican politics my whole life, the left was right about everything. Im part of it. Im not blaming anybody. The left, which has been covered and people tried to brand them as the radical left, theyve been right about anything. Any attempt to say there were two sides here is dead wrong. The republicans is greenlit the Conspiracy Theorists in their rank by a vote of 19911, end of story. The larger picture here, though, if youre upset about bigotry and Conspiracy Theories, how do you explain the fact that the Republican Party, including senator cramer, supported donald trump, and he was the Conspiracy Theorist in chief. And probably will next week. Thats right. As were talking here right now, it is less than a month since a Conspiracy Theory and a lie led to the insurrection at the capitol. Donald trumps lie, which had been tolerated and rationalized for all of those years resulted in what hammond on january 6th. They are not harmless. The failure of republicans to draw a line, to push back, you know, came home to roost, and yet they have learned absolutely nothing from it. But if i can push back here a bit. Some republicans, maybe its to say, look, we are not all Marjorie Taylor greene. There were at least ten who voled to impeach President Trump, if theres any hope for the Republican Party at all, and im very, very skeptical about that, its going to be people lie ben sasse doing that video, speaking to his constituents and saying, look, we cant do this. We cant go for the crazy. We cant become a cult of personality. The country needs to hear from other republicans saying, okay, thats not what we signed up for, thats not who we are. Unfortunately, because of the that vote last night, thats a hard case to make, because thats who they were last night. Let me push right back at you on this point. I love what ben sasse said, but why didnt he rally Mitch Mcconnell to his cause two years ago . Its too little too late. He enacted some of the most cruel and least conservative policies orb country has ever seen, and those people like ben sasse, chris christie, rushing to decontaminate themselves, where were they . They could have stopped him. If Mitch Mcconnell said i will not confirm another judge until you stop the b. S. There are so many offramps, and they took none of them. Ben sasse broke our hearts many times. He went into hiding before he got reelected. But you know, heres the thing, nicolle. Right now, in order to save this country, we are going to need people to see the light. We are going to have to welcome people who in fact are late to the table, because i hear you. Look, next week we want to have senators who look at the evidence and will go, you know what . I made a mistake by going along with this guy. I have changed my mind. You know, we ought to say, welcome to the team of putting country over party, as opposed to saying its too late, who cares what you think . Thats their calculation. Their calculation is you could do the right thing and ill bet beaten up. Ben sasse could have done more, so could a lot of people, but right now going forward, we need every principled voice saying the bigotry, the Conspiracy Theories, the crazy, we need to draw a line and reject it. We need to make a coalition, including a coalition of some converts. Along those lines, another group that cares about republicans doing the right thing still is the republican accountability project. Alicia, this is their ad to try to get senator mcconnell to do the right thing. This election was stolen. Stolen, stolen. Fraud. Fraud. Corrupt. Were going to the capitol to make your voices heard. You will never take back the country with weakness. Announcer senator mcconnell, donald trump incited an attack on the capitol. Its up to you to convict and disqualify him. Do you think that will work . No, but i do think there are Republican Voters who are watching, who are reminded of the horrors of what happened on january 6th. Hopefully for whom it underlines the sheer morality, questions of this moment. You know, nicolle. I go back to the signed you were using earlier of fred guttenberg, thinking of those families from parkland, from new town, who have through through the most unimaginable trauma possible, and it was bad enough when they were dealing with hoaxters considered fringe, they are now inside the u. S. Government. How do you measure the emotional costs of being asked to litigate and relitigate the truth of the murder of your child . Thats actually what is happening here. When you talk to a lot of these families, theyre incredibly frustrated about the fact these hoaxters who have been out there for years, have been treated as oddities, strange quirks, when they families were trying to tell us just how dangerous they were. So that is sort of the core question that is there at this moment. This isnt just about raw politics. This is about a real, emotional cost that is being felt in communities right now. Along those lines, alicia, i want to show you the emotional cost of the insurrection and having someone who cheered on the people responsible for it. Lets watch the democrats from last night. Todays Republican Party, Marjorie Taylor greenes world views are violent, antiblack, islam ophobic, antisemitic, and theyre condoned. Every single day that goes by without outright condemnation, without consequences for her extremist views is an outright endorsement of white supremacy. No parent should ever have to invite a member of congress to visit their childs grave or touch the bulletridden clothing that their child wore to prove that their death actually happened. I vote for the babies who left for school eight years ago and never returned home, and the teachers who died trying to protect them. I stand here to tell you, i will stand up to bullies, bullies who threaten students and threaten and celebrate the violence towards our speaker, and our colleagues. Conspiracy theories and outrageous lies have no place in the congress, no place in the peoples house, no place, no place. You know, jake said its become a bizarre place. Its become sociopathic if it cant understand why theres raw emotion around the threat of violence and denial of some of the most Horrific School shootings in our countrys history. Especially now since theyll see the actualization of the violence. Communities have been rocked, especially laid bare in the past few years. And these families, its bad enough to have one person in congress saying these lies. Its another whole thing to Hav Party Circle Wagons around them. My question is, how do you go to voters saying youre upholding some sense of normalcy, some sense of morality, when youre not wilts to call out your own members. It is important for this moment, but its also important for the historical record that this is all captured, what happened on january 6th is captured, and we as a nation never forget what happened. Jake, is it just compartmentalization that allow s some folks to not acknowledge the anger and hurt thats caused by some of the greenes beliefs and comments . I would say thats probably right. I think that people, frankly im struggle to for words here. Im not a psychologist, but i do think think that people think i dont know. I wish i had a better answer for you. I dont know is a good answer these days. These views are so bizarre. Sometimes its worth just stepping back for a second and thinking about what qanon theory is, that these are crazy things. These are not normal things. I mean, the biggest problem, nicolle, is that not only in the immediate, but Marjorie Taylor greene will go out and raise 100,000 a day for the foreseeable future and shes going to go back and win her Congressional District in North Georgia by 40 points. Since the party committee, the National Republicans Congressional Committee doesnt get involved in primaries, they cant even get rid of her if they wanted to. This is a long problem, but it used to have lower consequences. It used to be a lot cheap earp. Now its dangerous. This is somebody who espoused dangerous, dangerous views. Everybody realizes that, but they know the

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