Charges in that any day now. Former President Biden and former President Trump could be tied in a rematch. We will talk to the women worlds cup and olympian champion, Brandy Chastain about the nailbiter of a game. We begin with the very latest on the investigation surrounding former President Donald Trump. Members of the grand jury investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 president ial election have arrived right here at the federal courthouse in washington, d. C. The former president predicting on his social media site the panel could indict him, quote, any day now. He received a letter saying he was a target in the Special Counsel interference investigation. With us now to talk more about all of this, nbc news justice reporter, riley outside the court, and katie, a msnbc contributor, and charles. Ryan, you are at the courthouse. What is going on there as of right now . Reporter well, we know the grand jury is meeting today and you can see behind me there are vehicles from the federal protective services, and its a little bit of a change with that. A little increase in security here. This all comes, i think, most critically not only after the target letter trump received, but after the meeting between him and his lawyers, and in the documents case we saw an indictment there after in the maralago case, and if they dont return an indictment today we would expect them to meet on thursday unless theres a special session held in the meantime. You know, this grand jury has been doing a lot of work in the last couple of months, and some of the electors were put forward and some said donald trump won states he lost, and up to former Vice President mike pence where he testified before the grand jury a couple months ago in the proud boys trial, and that gives you a look at as these cases churn along, you have a chance to look at the evidence over the course of several months. Ryan, how will things play out once the grand jury make the case . Reporter typically what will happen is the jury foreperson along with the prosecutor will go to a judge, and as it so happens, which today given that we are in a new month of august, and typically that would happen sometime in the afternoon. Last thursday, when we were all expecting activity here when in reality the activity ended up further south in florida, and we got a hint there would be no indictments returned on that third, so we could have some sense in the afternoon and a lot of this is up in the air, and they dont have to warn the Courtroom Deputy there will be something coming in, and theres a timeframe in which they are supposed to be in court, so we could see something later this afternoon or see something thursday, but, really, we are just keeping our eye out for what is going to happen next. It has been two weeks since trump received the letter saying that he was, indeed, a target of the investigation. We have not heard from anybody at the doj. Should we expect to hear from the Justice Department after an indictment is handed up, if it is . I think the Justice Department likes to speak through its Court Filings so any accusations it levies against donald trump or anything it says he has done will come in the form of the indictment. It has been interesting to watch, the Justice Department with regards to donald trump has used speaking indictments and used Court Documents to tell the full narrative about what they think it is that the former president has likely done, and we saw that in the documents case, and i would expect to see in this matter. It was not the Attorney GeneralMerrick Garland that smoke, but it was jack smith that gave extremely brief remarks. We could see that again. This is a place where the Justice Department is treading carefully, and they are taking a matter, try as hard as it can to take the politics out of it, and that includes not having President Bidens handpicked Attorney General not come out and speak. The man that advised pence on what he could do on january 6th, he made a comment on a podcast. Listen to this. This indictment for january 6th, if it does come, would never have come except for the fact that the former president wanted to be indicted for his role on january 6th. Hes taunt and provoked first the department of justice and then after jack smith was appointed as Special Counsel, jack smith to indict him. Which case would have the most serious legal consequences, do you think . Well, jose, i do think that starting off we have to consider that maralago is the most serious case right now because its the only case he has been indicted for. The point he becomes indicted federally for something else, thats a different conversation. Depending on what the charges are, if you are talking about seditious conspiracy charge, and we dont know all, but based off the target letter there were several charges, and only jack smith knows if and for what the former president could be indicted. If you have a serious charge like that it could keep donald trump from Holding Public office again, and thats a serious thing and you have to take that into consideration. Absent the conversation we have had so far, is what is going on in Fulton County in georgia. If that moves forward with the indictment, he should be concerned with that because donald trump has a very slim, albeit, still viable means to pardon himself should he win the election in 2024 next year, or should he be able to convince if its the winner, should it be a republican, to pardon him, and we have had several people from that field saying they would pardon him if they win the election, and so he has a potential out. But if he is indicted and later convicted, that same out does not exist. I think its dicey in the terms of asking the question which is the most serious case and which one he should be most concerned about. I thank you for pointing that out. In georgia, they insist theres no coordination or cooperation between her and Special Counsel smiths investigation, telling a georgia Radio Station saying i dont know what jack smith is doing and jack smith doesnt know what i am doing, and is it unusual theres no coordination between these two offices . No, its not unusual at all, jose. While its not impossible, i would say overall its not likely. She will continue on the track shes doing as a State Prosecutor in georgia, and jack smith will continue to do the job hes doing as the Special Counsel for the department of justice. And its going to sort of be impacted by what either of them does is what the schedule looks like Going Forward for donald trump. I suspect Donald Trumps attorneys are going to try and use the May 20th 2024 date set by the judge in South Florida as the benchmark for every other case. If he is indicted in georgia and new york, what will happen is they will track the federal case with respect to maralago, and that would not be unusual but that would be a huge win for him as a defendant because he could push everything he could down the road as far as he can. Theres no cooperation or coordination, but which of the two are, in a sense, more dangerous for the former president . I dont think we can answer that question, because we dont know how the former president would behave in court and what evidence he could marshal, and what arguments there are in either case, and its a question that implies people want to do damage to the former president , and i understand people are out there that want to do that and its an impossible question to answer. A better way to look at it is how can this impact his campaign . Currently, republicans are rallying around him. How will the American People respond to a candidate that potentially has been indicted multiple times and will spend a great deal of time on the Campaign Trail and in a courtroom. In a way its helping him right now, but his opponents could have time and airtime he may not have because he will be tied up with a lot of legal issues. A much better answer to a much better question, katie. Thank you very much. Thank you all for being with us this morning. What we know about an American Woman and her daughter who have been kidnapped in haiti. Plus, a man that drove into a group of farm workers outside North Carolina turned himself in. What he says happened when we come back in 60 seconds. You are watching jose diazbalart reports on msnbc. O, make sure you have Downy Unstopables inwash scent boosters. Let Innovation Refunds help with your erc tax refund so you can improve your business however you see fit. 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Now to a story we brought you yesterday, a man in North Carolina there you see a video, hes driving his car into six Migrant Workers outside of walmart has turned himself into authorities. Police say the 68yearold gonzales said he accidentally hit the gas while parking and fled in a panic. Police originally said they believed it was an intentional assault. Yeah, they did because of the video, and its important to report now we have a suspect that turned himself in. Yesterday when we learned about the attack that happened over the weekend and we spoke to some of the workers, and the workers were scared. These are farm workers that come into the country on a visa and work six days a week, and their sundays, jose, are the days they go into town and go shopping, and they were waiting to get on the bus. Initially the information they received said it appeared it could have been intentional, but the authorities were very careful not to communicate any cause, so they said they were still investigating, right . Now we understand the suspect after the accident went and spoke to his family and told them what happened and his family contacted the authorities and told them it was an accident, and we now know he stepped on the gas instead of the brakes. A lot of the workers that went to work yesterday and said they were scared will have a different way to look at the situation, understanding that somebody says this was a mistake. They were relatively minor injuries in most of the cases . As of now, six people were struck and injured. All have been released from the hospital and are expected to recover. The injuries are, for example, one man had a broken ankle and another man had injuries to his happened. These are the ones we spoke to. They are injuries they will recover from. These are farm workers, jose, that have to work six days a week and might not be making the money they would be making because they have to take a week or two off. The Mexican Consulate told us they have financial and legal help for them if thats necessary. They are asking the workers to contact the Mexican Consulate if they need that help, jose. Thank you very much for that important update. Appreciate it. Still ahead, a Covid Comeback . We will talk to a doctor about the uptick in cases. Plus, potential Warning Signs for President Biden and his race for reelection. What new polling says about the state of the race today. You are watching jose diazbalart reports on msnbc. F. And its customizable scans with social sentiment help you find and unlock opportunities in the market. E from Morgan Stanley. And its customizable scans with social sentiment with powerful, easytouse tools, power e trade makes complex trading easier. 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Space command headquarters will remain in colorado after President Biden reversed plans made by the Trump Administration to move it to alabama. Joining us now with more is co founder of punchbowl news and, of course, an msnbc contributor. How do we get to this point on this . Thats a great question, jose. We got there for a few reasons. Number one, you could take the explanation at face value, which is the Space Command was best suited to be in colorado but the Background Music here, jose, is the senator from alabama who was also in the mix to get the Space Command held up hundreds of Military Flag Officers and Senior Pentagon officials over the defense departments abortion policy. The administration indicated this had nothing to do with it but i think there are plenty of people on capitol hill, including some in the delegation, the alabama delegation, who wonder if tubervilles blockade played a role in losing that space for alabama, and one chair indicates he will investigate that. Its not an issue that will die down anytime soon. In the meantime, Hunter Bidens former Business Partner testified as three republicans sent a letter out about Hunter BidensPlea Agreement . Yeah, Hunter BidensBusiness Partner gave a little bit for everybody, and he did say he put joe biden on speaker phone, and it was more about the weather and other happenings in their life. I think congress will return in a couple weeks, the beginning of september, and the leadership will have a tricky deal to deal with, if they impeach joe biden over a host of claims, many of which they have not been able to prove. I think the chorus from the right of the House Republican conference is hungry to take a hit at joe biden, and i think we will see that happen. Jake sherman, always a pleasure to see you. I thank you. President biden and former President Trump are locked in a dead heat in a hypothetical 2020 matchup, each at 43 . Neither candidate has a particularly strong Favorability Rating when it comes to the selection cycle. Biden at 43 . Trump at 41 . Joining us now with more is mark murray, an nbc senior reporter. I think the public at large, jose, should take away this is shaping up to be a very, very close election if we are going to see another biden versus donald trump rematch. There are shortcomings for joe biden and donald trump. On the biden side, there are parts of the Democratic Coalition that frayed since 2020. When you look at the cross tabs of the poll, joe biden is not doing as well among black voters, young voters, latinos and independents as in 2020 according to the exit polls, and donald trump remains more unpopular than joe biden. As we saw in the 2020 election, that was very decisive. There are flaws for both individuals. Again, we have 15 months to go before election day 2024, and thats an eternity in politics. Your thoughts on the poll itself, and its a snapshot of a moment in time in a national poll. What does it tell you . That this is shaping up to be a close contest if the nominees are joe biden and donald trump.