The last few weeks have been historic, unprecedented, and yes, at times, pretty alarming. Former president , donald, trump is under an avalanche of legal trouble. Remember, those cases are not just about the criminal conduct of one man. There are about the future of our democracy, and our very way of life. The stakes for this country could not be higher in this moment. The question of who is leading the country impacts every single issue you care about. Well continue to talk about these cases, through every twist and turn. Believe me, i understand that a former president under multiple indictments is enough to shape the confidence of anyone in our system. Today were going to change things up a little bit. In part because i was pretty along when i saw a recent poll that 37 of voters think were in danger of failing as a nation. Failing. I wanted to spend the show talking about some of the people about the efforts to make progress, even under the threat of trump hanging over everything. Not to sugarcoat the challenges, were not going to do that, but to explore during a period that can feel pretty dark, where there are places to be a little hopeful. Even against the backdrop of the last two and a half crazy years, democrats have worked on 250 bipartisan bills. Some small ones, but a number that represent big headway. Gun safety legislation, and Infrastructure Bill, the chips act, the Inflation Reduction Act, just to name a few. At the state level, there are a lot of governors who are not as beholden to the polarizing dynamics that weve seen in washington. Among them, democratic governor, jared polls of colorado, and republican governor, spencer cox of utah. They recently teamed up to launch a new Bipartisan Initiative to tone down the rhetoric and promote a healthier dialogue around politics. Theyre asking americans to, quote, Disagree Better. There is a healthy whale to deal with conflicting opinions. Actually, its okay to disagree. Its not just, okay its crucial. Did you just disagree with me about disagreeing . Healthy disagreements means not assume made that The Other Side is diluted, misinformed, or actively trying to overthrow america. A little responsive curiosity keeps resentment off the dinner table. That sounds good. Governor polis and governor cox think we can all Disagree Better. Can we . One fundamental rights are being stripped away in one chunk of the country thinks, with good reason, by the way, that the leader of the opposition is a criminal . How exactly do we do it . Joining me now is a democratic governor of colorado, jarred pulse. He is the vice chair of the governor association. Governor, thank you for joining me this afternoon. I really appreciate you taking the time. Always a pleasure, jen, good to be here. I want to start with where i ended there. A lot of that sounds good. With all of the fundamental challenges to the rights of people, i mean, youve talked about this publicly as well. How do we exactly Disagree Better . How are you going to measure your success in this effort . Yeah, this isnt just about something thats nice to, do were nice to have. Its something that we have to do to restore our faith and integrity in the system. First of all, whats important to point out is that it doesnt mean that anyone can serve, or liberal need to compromise their belief or values. What it means is that we should have authentic conversations. Not questioning the motives of those on The Other Side, but rather, having an authentic conversation about where we disagree, and, yes but where we agree. Theres a lot of ground for agreement as well. Spencer cox and i, and the National Governors association, workers at the governors of all the states and territories. Theyre really highlighting this as what i feel is the most important issue right now. Beyond a particular issue that you and i might get into some later, this overlay of how we discuss these issues that we disagree. We simply have to step up and do better as a nation. This feels hard, in a moment, right, when people, like i said, they feel like their rights are being threatened. There are big, Big Disagreements on important issues. As you mentioned, youre working with governor cox. He just signed a Ban On Abortion Claims and the state. How do you disagree civilly . This is really a lesson for people who are having a hard time with this, understandably, was someone who you have such fundamental disagreements with. I think for my perspective, and the way we talk about, it is important to bring people together. I think what well find is that those who are choice advocates, myself included, yourself included, we would love to find ways to reduce unwanted pregnancies. When a woman faces that choice, as always very difficult. Of course ill argue every moment that it is their choice. How did that woman get to that situation . How can we make sure that women are equipped with the right information, the right access to birth control, to avoid ever having to face what is a very gut wrenching decision, no matter how or if the government weighs in on it. I want to ask you about something personal too. This is where it becomes very hard for people. You are, maybe this could be a lesson to others. You are an openly gay politician, you are one of the first, you are right now, there are republican policy centered around culture wars, demonizing the Lgbtq Community. This means that also, disagreed civilly, as you, said with people who might disagree with who you are. How do you deal with that . How can people deal with that in general . Its important to not demonize The Other Side. Its fine to have disagreements about how you live your life, and i respect people of different faith traditions who want to live their lives in certain ways. I hope they have that same shared respect for me. Whats important is that we dont go into our quarters and say thats evil person because of maybe they dont accept the fact that i married, or maybe on my side they think that somebody whos on the Lgbtq Community may have been stigmatized or attacked by religion, they might time to demonize people, particular. Face set that aside and say, look, its simply wrong to demonize people, to dehumanize people. Its okay to disagree. Its okay to have those conversations. We all have worth is individuals, so we need to highlight that. So one of the challenges, governor, since youre very familiar with us, is the fact that nearly two thirds of republicans still believe the false said that biden didnt when, President Biden did win the 2020 election. The feels kind of fundamental to a lot of these disagreements. How do you deal with that . How can you meet them where they are to help separate that fact from fiction . Frankly i think thats more than a cause, its actually more of a result of this dynamic that were in, that weve got to get out of. Where people are somehow viewing those opposing them as not of moral worth. Of somehow dehumanizing, and moving away from objective facts into the realm of subjective opinion. Its important to get the facts on the table. That includes education, outrage, making sure we have these authentic conversations. It doesnt get better. My people were treated and a quarter and only talking to people who agree with them. I encourage everyone to go ahead and call that cousin, that uncle, that neighborhood might feel a different way. Then not start in accusatory way, but say, lets have a real talk about this. And your concerns. Asked them to explain why or how they didnt think an election turned out the way it dead, and, again you can talk about the facts and how that conversation at that level, rather than the level of doubting the motives of those who might feel differently than you. Well one of the places that people may start is where they agree. You may recommend that, im guessing. I know you disagree with governor cox on a lot. What is an area you agree may surprise people . Well you know, just this morning, governor cox and i did a forum on Workforce Innovation and readiness. How can we deconstruct and create a new way with the credit ships, and students, and high school, and highlight something that is a national issue. How do we make sure that students from all backgrounds get the skills they need to succeed. In terms of the vital needs of todays workforce. We have two job openings for every unemployed person in our state, but many the people who are unemployed dont have the skills they need to get those good jobs. How do you focus the discussion, innovation, great energy that Civil Society has on something that real problems like that . Rather than on the issues of divide us. That might surprise people. That is something that people should be able to agree on. What happens when you and governor cox discuss donald trump . Or do you . Well i like the way that governor cox puts that. He says, he appears to be republican, obviously, the former president s. He says, i would be happy to mentor and teach the president , president , trump to do better and use the language of Humility Route that division. Of course, the phone call hasnt been returned. I dont think hes terribly optimistic norm by the President Trump will avail himself of this training. Heres another thing to point out, jen, you will gets politicians, whether its President Trump or someone else, if there is a market for Sowing Division and discord down the modes of the side, some politicians will rise to that market that. The key question is how do we look ourselves in the mirror as the electorate, and, say we simply wont reward that kind of behavior . We will reward the behavior people huron, the power that ideas, their ideals, who understand that those who oppose them or people who are doing their best and believe in what theyre doing is right. Lets have that discussion on an authentic level, rather than try to dehumanize those who we might happen to disagree with. Governor jared polis, governor the great state of colorado. Half my family lives. Thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. I really appreciate it. Coming up, ill talk to former congressman, tim ryan, about what he calls the exhausted majority in america. , and how hes trying to give voice to it. 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The one hand, it makes all sorts of sense for democrats to point out the dangers associated with another presidency, like, say, the existential threat to our democracy. On the other hand, they also have to make a case for their agenda, and what they would do if theyre reelected, or elected to office. Take the economy for instance, the president is partly bragging about good job numbers, the fact that inflation is finally cool enough, and Consumer Confidence is up. Despite all of that, almost half of americans arent exactly convinced that the economy is in a good place right now. A recent poll found that 49 of registered voters would rate the economy as poor. Compare that to the 20 that say the economy is excellent or good. That could include why despite trumps many indictments, President Bidens neck and neck with him among registered voters. To get over that hump, President Biden has to make his case to communities across america that are still struggling economically. Help them understand how their benefits will benefit them. In places like Northeastern Ohio, the steel factories and manufacturing plants. My next guest were presented this in congress for nearly two decades, and hes been a long time advocate for talking about communities that feel left behind. Joining me now is former ohio congressman, tim ryan, who Just Launched a new Advocacy Group called We The People. Focus on voters disengaged with the current political climate. Hello congressman, also call you congressman, i think you got the title for life. You, great to see you. You Just Launched the group We The People to reach what your call in the exhausted majority. I think a lot of people would agree with, that are relate to it. How do you reach people who are checked out from the political system . Its kind of an angel political question. I think first and foremost, you know, you let them know that theyre not alone, there are a lot of people out there who still care, but are exhausted. We get concerned because im back in ohio, i talk to people, i dont even know if im going to vote. Im tired of the whole thing. That cannot be the answer. We want to make sure the people know that they have a home with the other exhausted people in the country. What were going to do, jen, were going to highlight some of the really cool stuff thats happening in the country, the solutions that are out there, whether its healing our kids, having an American Energy policy. There are some Real Solutions that arent in that red or blue, theres a very short of the blue shirt, its common sense american staff. We want to highlight that. I think that can start to give people hope. Theres been an effort to do that, i mean, you ran for senate and a campaign that i think was surprising to people. I know you know currently a senator, it still didnt work, right . President biden is going to alter the country to talk about the policies, exactly those hes advocated for. Youve advocated for. How will this make a difference, or whats going to be different about this effort . Well its going to take a