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And a grudge. I felt that when this shooter crossed steve off, he was moving down a list. A long list. She came running towards my vehicle. There was Blood Dripping from her face. Six murders. My gut just dropped. In four days. This was a Homicide Investigation in overdrive. It was. A city under siege. There was a lot of fear, there was a lot of unrest in the community. People were desperate for a suspect. Who else could have been on that list . I had my own personal terrorist. And why. People dont get gunned down their offices. There had to be a link. The most haunting question of all could those six lives have been saved . Steve always said these things never happened in a vacuum. There are always Warning Signs. So, losing him the way that we did was stunning to me. Hello, and welcome to dateline. Forensics psychiatrist steve pitt was well known for his work on high profile criminal cases. When he was shot outside his phoenix office, it was a big story. Nobody knew it yet, but his death was just the beginning of a terrifying murder spree. The victims all had something in common but what . One man knew, but could he connect the dots before more lives were lost . Here is Josh Mankiewicz with unraveled. There is an argument. For an agonizing stretch of nearly four days, the fear was palpable and paralyzing. The twist and turn stone and there. A killer was on the loose, in and around phoenix, arizona, systematically shooting innocent victims. A massive manhunt underway. Police worked around the clock, desperate for leads. We are asking the public to remain vigilant. A long weekend of terror that would lead to a hard question did any of it have to happen . Because this was a tragedy many people saw coming. Including the first and most highprofile victim. He was like nobody else might ever met, and thats true to this day. Back in 2002, Natalie Collins was a young lawyer defending a medical malpractice case when she met a forensic psychiatrist named dr. Steven pitt. It is a very intellectually honest whether you wanted his opinion or not, youve got it. But he was formidable and he was fair. It was nationally known for his work on cases like the Column Line Massacre and the murder of Jonbenet Ramsey. His interest in natalie was personal as well as professional. When they met again a few years later, he asked her to lunch. I took him up on the offer and i had the longest village ive ever had. It was hours and it was fabulous. I love it every minute of it. Ours turned into years. They got engaged. He was a brilliant forensic psychiatrist, but he was, in my biased opinion, and even better human being. He had two sons of his exwife and they were the center of his world. He would say to the boys, work hard, dont say cant, be nice, and have fun. Steve was a master at delving into someones mind, understanding what made them take. No matter who retained him or what they wanted him to say, you can always tell you what he really thought. Im sure you noticed that about him. I did. My name is dr. Steven pitt. I interviewed steve pitt in 2016 for a report on the 20th Anniversary of the Jonbenet Ramsey case. I get good answers, come on. For real. A sharp guy with a big personality, and a sense of humor to match. God, that was so good, the way you did that. Thank you. Through that, we got to know one another. When i met him, and he sort of said to me, hey, lets be friends, ill come to los angeles and we will hang out. I thought, absolutely right. He could get anybody story, but more importantly, than that he was interested in everybody and their story. He was also unabashedly interested in crime and criminals. He read a lot of history about serial killers, and i think he felt that his skills were really well suited to that area. He didnt scare easy. Steve was aware some criminals he dealt with might pose a threat. I can recall a couple of specific instances where he showed me a photograph and he said, if you see this person anywhere near you, you are to call the police. Still, he always tried to calm natalies nerves. I remember a dinner where he said to me, babe, relax. In these situations, there are bigger fish to fry than me. They will always go after a judge or an attorney before the ever come to me. You dont need to worry. Because we will always have a warning. I will always have a warning. And i will know to do. So, the circumstance, losing him the way that we did was. Stunning to me. One of the rare times he was ever wrong. Yeah. Thursday, may 31st, 2018, id seen steve about a week before. Natalie, of course, saw him that morning. They made plans to meet after work. At 5 18, i texted him and i said, are you on your way . Are you coming . And he said, ten minutes, max. And, i will see you there. Half an hour went by, then an hour and still no steve. That was unlike him, and so i drove to his office. As i arrived at the office, i could see that something was really, really wrong. She saw the police, and the yellow tape. I could see his range rover in the parking lot, and i can see there are things turn on the ground that i was hoping was maybe medical supplies, and i thought maybe they were working on him or somebody. But i just knew, you know . That there was something wrong with him. Cops werent telling her anything, and natalie was getting desperate. I called somebody that steve worked with who was a police officer, and asked him, what is happening . And he i could hear from his voice. Sorry. He said, something really bad has happened. Steves been shot. And i said nothing, for a second. And i said, did he survive . And he said, no. And i dont really remember much after that. A man had confronted steve as he left work to meet natalie. When this is reported Hearing Shouts and then gunfire. Based on witness descriptions, phoenix pd developed the sketch of the suspect. A white male, bald, wearing a dark had was a short brim. Looked like anyone you knew . No. Didnt look like any of the people that steve had show new photos of over the years, saying if you ever see this person absolutely not. Natalie stayed at the scene until around 4 am, when her fiancees body was removed. As she prepared to leave, something occurred to her because the shooter was still not in custody, i did ask several officers whether it was safe for me to go home. One of them said, we dont know the answer to that, maam. They also didnt know just how much worse it was going to get. Or how quickly. A city is gripped by fear as the death toll climbs higher with two new shootings. Coming up she came running towards my vehicle. There is Blood Dripping from her face. Ten minutes after midnight this morning, we received a call of a shooting. The business complex behind me. And natalie has a hunch. I knew there would be a link between steves murder and those murders because people dont get gunned down in their offices in scottsdale. It doesnt happen. When dateline continues. She was even inspired to train for a marathon. That lasted a day, but she was inspired. Woolite protects your favorites from fading, pilling, and stretching. So you can wear them as long as you love them. Its the most wonderful time of the year nondrowsy claritin knocks out symptoms from over 200 allergens. Without knocking you out. Feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. Live claritin clear. And were done. Hm, what about these . Looks right. [sfx spilling sound] nooo. Nooo. Nooo. Quick, the quicker picker upper bounty absorbs spills like a sponge. And bounty is 2x more absorbent so you can use less and get the job done with one. This works. Kind of. Bounty, the quicker picker upper. We moved out of the city so our little sophie could appreciate nature. Kind of. But then he got us tmobile home internet. I was just trying to improve our signal, so some of the trees had to go. I mightve taken it a step too far. Chainsaw Revs tree crashes chainsaw continues daughter screams lets pretend for a second that you didnt let down your entire family. What would that reality look like . Well i guess i wouldve gotten us xfinity. And wed have a better view. Do you need mulch . Friday, june 1st, 2018. What, we have a ton of mulch. Less than 24 hours after nationally known forensic psychiatrist steve pitt was murdered outside his office in phoenix. Reporter Bianca Warner of Nvc Affiliate Kpix got a call. Theres been another shooting and nearby scottsdale. We booked it to old town and it was Something Like ive never seen in that area before. We have a very active Police Presence right behind us. Paralegal valeria sharp had been at work at this Family Law Practice when someone walked in and shot her in the head. She somehow managed to get outside. A Passing Driver Saw her and called 911. Oh my gosh, she came running towards my vehicle. There was Blood Dripping from her face. She just lay down on the ground. Emts rushed her to the hospital but could not save her life. Scottsdale police followed the trail of valerias blood back to the law office and discovered a second victim, paralegal Laura Anderson. She had been shot in the chest and was already dead. Two women who murdered in broad daylight. Another unlikely crime scene. About ten miles from the spot where steve pitt was killed. Valerias husband here she was in the type of person that had enemies. I can remember the officer asking me a question like that i said no, no, no. Natalie collins was at home, still in shock over steves murder when she heard the news. I knew there would be a link between steves murder and those murders. Because people dont get gunned down in their office in in scottsdale, arizona. It doesnt happen. Natalies hunch was right. Scottsdale police were able to confirm for us that the murder scene on thursday and the murder scene on friday was connected. Firearms analysis showed a 40 caliber weapon had been used in the homicide of dr. Steve pitt. The same caliber gun killed Paralegals Valeria Sharp and Laura Anderson. Ten about ten hours after the paralegals were killed about ten minutes after midnight this morning, we received a call of a shooting at the business complex behind me. An adult male shot twice in the head at an office, seven miles from the law firm. Doorbell rang, wanted to ignore it, because its the middle of the night. It was 3 am. Psychotherapist karen kolbes husband answer the door. He came back in to get me and said, you need to get up, police are here, marshall has been found dead in the office. The latest victim, 72 year old marshall levine, was a counselor and life coach. He was subletting his office from karen. We sat down with the officers and they wanted to know what kind of clients was he seen. And what was his practice like. The assumption was, this was about marshall . Im wondering when you felt more of a threat after the second and third murder scenes were announced. Honestly, i was scared. But i also knew, or believed, that this was personal. And i fell in my heart of hearts that when this crossed steve off his list, that he was moving down a list. If the killer did have a list, police were racing to find out why were these people on it . What did they have in common . Investigators collected Shell Casings at Clearance Office and discovered they were 40 caliber. Same as at the other two crime scenes. Four murders now in less than 31 hours. All possibly committed by the same person. There was one promising clue. Dna on a shell casing recovered at the scene of steve pits murder. Investigators ran it through there a system, but there is no match. By 10 am, saturday morning, police open an Emergency Center and tips were pouring in. There was a lot of fear. There was a lot of unrest in the community. People were desperate for a suspect. No one yet knew about this man, 200 miles away. Watching the news of the murders unfold. He was a former Phoenix Police detective. And he had a sudden, sickening feeling. I was certain who it was. Coming up. You are 18, he was 22. Correct. Your first boyfriend . Yes. The start of something very evil. I had my own terrorist, my own personal terrorist. When dateline continues. All around us. Unlike air fresheners, only new lysol Air Sanitizer kills 99. 9 of viruses and bacteria in the air. Because scent cant sanitize. Lysol can. Yeah, everythings taken care of. Hey, jamie. Oh, what am i up to . Just visiting a special secret client. I cant say who it is, but lets just say she bundled her dream house and her dream car for roundtheclock protection with progressive. Oh. She has another house in malibu. Shes been an astronaut, an architect, a ceo. Were in front of her house, dude. Id love to tell you who her boyfriend is, but i dont think i ken. Id love to tell you, but i dont think i barbie in theaters now. Im adding Downy Unstopables to my wash. Now ill be smelling fresh all day long. sniff still fresh. Still fresh mmm, still fresh get 6x longerlasting freshness, plus Odor Protection with Downy Unstopables. Four murders in three days. Police were on a desperate hunt to find the killer. Some 200 miles away, rick angling was watching for developments. Anglin had spent a lifetime in law enforcement. He started out at the Phoenix Police department, even worked undercover. Later, he became a private investigator. And when he heard about steve pitts murder. His experience told him it had to be related to his work. Anglin new pit worked on criminal cases. So the universal suspects was bass. Then he heard about the murder of the two paralegals in scott stale, and suddenly that universe shrank. Once the nestled on the news that there was an elizabeth feldmans office, i was certain who it was. You knew . I knew. Knew exactly how steve pitt and the Feldman Law Firm or connected. And who was behind the murders. Rick knew because lee years earlier, he had taken on the case of a scott still doctor named connie jones. Yes, i had my own terrorists. My own personal terrorist. Connie was on summer break from college in 1984 when she started dating a young soldier named dwight jones. Dwight was stationed at fort bragg, north carolina. You are 18, he was 22 . Correct. Young, two young. Your first boyfriend . Yes. He told me he wanted to be an attorney. So he seemed to have aspirations. They married in 1988 after her first year of medical school. Dwight left the army after three years. And soon connie realized that while she was working hard to become a doctor, dwight was doing nothing. I dont recall him ever working more than two or three days. Because every job that he would get there would be some issue. So we lived in medical school, on my financial aid. Thats probably not how you grew up . That is not. My family has the best work ethic you can think of. After medical school, connie began a residency in psychiatry. But soon found it hit too close to home. Her own husband, she came to realize, was mentally ill. He was depressed. He would stay in the bed for three or four days. And then he became very hostile towards me. What form did that take . Verbal abuse, Emotional Abuse. Again, if he were mad, he would not talk for a week to punish me. Connie switched her focused radiology and she encouraged dwight to she Seek Mental Health treatment. I wanted to help him. I mean, who doesnt want out their spouse . Dwight refused. She says she endured eight years of escalating hostility and verbal abuse. Before telling dwight she wanted a divorce. And he laid on the floor for three days crying. And said that it was his mental illness. That he loved me. That he didnt want to lose me. And that he would do whatever he needed to do. So connie stayed. And in 1997, she gave birth to a son. After the child was born, he actually seemed to be better. Being a father was good for him . It was. It did seem to give him a purpose. Dwight watch their child during the day, lakhani says hes still left most of the caregiving to her. And soon enough, connie says dwights Emotional Abuse worsened. He became obsessive and controlling. After i had my son, i thought it was my obligation to try to make this work. And i really did not see myself in life as a divorced person. Then how do you make things work when you have no idea who is coming home at night . The garage door would open and we did not know what we were getting. Dr. Jekyll or mr. Hyde . Right. Dwights good time became more and more rear. Then he began to abuse her physically. But at the same time, carefully. If you punch someone in the eye, that kind of thing, its obvious that youre being abused. But hitting you with their forearm, physically holding me down, pushing me into walls those things dont leave bruises. But they are very violent. And he did all of those to you . He did. And sometimes it did leave a mark. Like the time she says dwight broke her sternum. He hit me with his the ball of his hand in my chest. And you didnt call the police . I didnt. Because . At that time, i did not have a plan of exit. I was sleeping with a knife under my pillow, because i thought he was so out of control. By early 2009, connie said dwight was directing his anger and threats at their child. Particularly murder suicide of himself of the child, so that i would suffer the rest of my life knowing that my child is dead because i didnt do what he said. Connery knew she needed to get out. But she also knew a woman who had been killed while trying to leave her abusive boyfriend. So connie made plans to escape in secret. I start preparing to get some of my important paperwork to another location. Some clothes and things that we might need. Thats when she consulted family law attorney elizabeth feldman. The name rick anglin would recognize from the news years later. Connie also placed already recorders around her home. So if things seem to be heated, so that could document what he was doing. And this exactly what happened on the night of may six, 2009. Ill show you. Im gonna show you. Hes over this

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