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Where the fourth criminal indictment of donald trump may come this week. Whats happening at the courthouse in Fulton County today. Also ahead, a Home Explosion claiming the lives of five people in pennsylvania. The question remaining, what caused that blast . Thanks so much for joining us. Its 10 00 eastern. Im Ana Cabrera Reporting from new york. The death has diemd once again from the wildfires in maui. 96 confirmed dead in what is now the deadliest wildfire in modern u. S. History. With hundreds still missing with just a fraction of the area searched, that death toll will almost certainly rise. Rescue teams are carefully working their way through the rubble. The bright orange xs marking places where theyve searched for victims. Families forced to give dna swabs to help identify those who lost their lives. Lets go live to maui to nbcs dana griffin. Dana, The Search Process is painfully slow for the families missing their loved ones. Whats the latest . Reporter good morning, ana. It is 4 00 a. M. Hawaii time. Right now were at a shelter where several people are sweeping inside. Youve got a lot of volunteers in the background staying up around the clock to make sure these survivors have everything they need. As you mentioned, the death toll likely to climb as rescue crews go back in with cadaver dogs to try to search for more bodies. Weve seen such a great humanitarian effort, people bringing water, food, toiletries, supplies, to those who need them most. There are some 1,100 people still displaced. Were told that housing in hotels will actually be made available. Today theres about 500 hotel rooms being set aside. The governor of hawaii has asked people of the state to open up their homes to allawi vacs in. Its been very hard by people devastated by this. Still hundreds missing. Its a slow, painful process. The police chief yesterday said theres a concern about potential hazards with homes and cars and so much metal, batteries, gasoline, burning. Its not safe. It could be a toxic area for people for weeks and months to come, ana. Youve also, i know, heard heartbreaking stories about people who are trying to get to lahaina. What are they telling you . Unfortunately we lost connection there with dana. As you can imagine, there are still some Communication Problems as theyre working to get things working again there in hawaii. Let me bring in another guest who is a longtime resident and realtor in maui. He has been documenting the damage in lahaina. Take a look at this. Here i am walking into lahaina after checking my neighbors house which is destroyed and gone. Here is the scene on front street, just a little down from the banyan tree. It is truly apocalyptic, like nothing before ive ever seen. The wharf, front street, lahaina harbor, all destroyed. The only thing thats left is metal. Everything wood is completely gone. Kevin alliason lost his home in the fire. Here is what little he has been able to recover, the heads of three golf clubs. Kevin is joining us now. Your video, these images are so devastating. Whats it like to be there right now, to see all that destruction with your own eyes . Its a roller coaster, to be honest with you. The emotions come and go. You try to stave off the crying as much as you can. The reality is life must go on sets in, and were consistently looking towards each other and supporting each other. Its an amazing ohana which is why ive chosen to live here as my home. Finding out whats next is the biggest key, hoping we can get things to be reconstructed and we build our homes, but also rebuild our livelihoods and continue the tourism that supports our island which is very, very important for our existence. It seems like a monumental task. You lost your home. We have that picture, the very little you were able to salvage, those three golf club heads. What went through your mind as you tried to literally go home and pick up the pieces . It was almost medicinal. I really wanted to get in there. We were fortunate to be able to get in there with some people who had the credentials to be able to get us back to the site. We walked around for about two hours just in awe, to walk through what was my home and try and do a reaccounting was extremely emotional. Here it comes. Youre looking at your life. Your life is gone. So from that standpoint, thats something that we have to put into the past and move on. Here we are now alive, contacting as many people as we can. Some are gone. Some are lost. I heard that you were talking about the total of dead. The irony is that it was so hot it even melted metal in many, many areas. Well over 600, 800 degrees. Everything aluminum melted. Presuming all these bodies theyre trying to search for, as the police chief said, theyre ash. So trying to find something in ash is just not going to be able to happen. Theyre going to have to eventually just look at the missing persons list. Thats well in excess of a thousand people. Here we are with how many and the what ifs are the challenge right now. The what ifs. I imagine youve asked yourself that question. You were home, right, when things got so bad so fast. Yeah. How did you escape . Well, actually my neighbor and i were talking, because we saw where the probably the incident that catapulted into lahaina, wires fell on top of a gas station just two blocks away from our home and then ignited the roof. When it ignited the roof, you had tar on fire, and then the wind blew the tar off of the roof and into whatever it stuck on. The Winds Continuing to blow into that tar created almost like taking a fan or a hairdryer against a fire. It just expanded that fire immensely. And then the continuous winds, they say 50, even up to 80 miles an hour would blow anything across the direction it was going onto the next area. People have said it moved a mile a minute. I think thats a little bit aggressive. I would say it maybe moved at least 1020 feet every second, is a fair number. I actually went down and took a shower and came out. My neighbor is screaming in my window, weve got to go. I looked out my back window and there were embers blowing off the back of the house. I grabbed my passport, laptop, two tshirts and my shoes, hopped in the car and drove away. We went to the sign of lahaina. I actually posted a video by Lahaina Shores Hotel which amazingly survived. The only reason it survived is stucco and glass on the exterior. We actually left lahaina town about 7 10. My neighbor lost a couple of beach front houses there as well. Ended up leaving about 8 30 when he had fire on both sides. You obviously went the right direction when you were trying to escape so that you were able to get to that area. If you had gone in a different direction, could have meant a different reality. We went the wrong direction at first. We actually went to front street to try to escape up towards the kaanapali direction. I said, screw this, i did a uey. As many of you have seen the photos, they were scorched there on front street if they didnt jump the wall or get around the buildings to get into the water. You knew people that did that, that jumped into the water . I do. One lady stood next to another man who basically drown right next to her. She was there for eight hours before she was rescued. He couldnt breathe anymore and died of smoke asphyxiation. There were people out there ive heard in excess of 11 hours. The coast guard just couldnt get to them. They were on the outside of the reef. There was diesel fuel floating in the water. People didnt want to try to swim in the reef. Its not an easy swim. Its not something you can just go and jump in and do. Kevin eliason, thank you for taking time with us. So happy to hear that youre okay and youre working to help others in your community to get back on their feet. I know its a long road ahead. Were wishing all The Very Best for you and everybody. Praying for the banyan tree. Keeping you in our hearts, the banyan tree and obviously all the families that are impacted. That is the phoenix of maui right now. The banyan tree we hope comes back. Thats the hope for all of us. Thank you, kevin. Thank you. Joining me is jeremy greenberg, director of femas operation division. Thanks for joining us. Youre in close contact with teams on the ground. Whats the priority right now . First and foremost, we want to offer our condolences to everybody impacted by this tragic wildfire. Right now fema and interagency partners are on the groundworking with the state of hawaii both in the Search Operations in the directly im kt paed area and through our recovery mechanisms, providing disaster assistance, whether its food, water, shelter and starting the Recovery Process to final insurance claims and get rent centered with fema for fema assistance. Can you just put this tragedy into perspective for us and the types of challenges everyone is up against . As was discussed previously, this was a very fastmoving fire that happened in the late hours. That in itself is a difficult issue. The state of hawaii working with the county of maui and all the federal responders trying to figure out the process to run the Search Operation and move on from there. There will be a longterm recovery aspect to this certainly. Thats why fema and the entire federal government are working with the state to prioritize getting everyone impacted by this the assistance they need. To that end i would like to point out the Phone Numbers we have available to everybody who needs assistance. The fema Assistance Number is 18006213362. Disasterassistance. Gov, download the fema app or red cross at 18007336727. The governor says losses are in the billions. Has fema been able to get a handle on the level of destruction and what its going to take to recover from this . Whats your message to those folks who dont even have clean water right now . Even boiling water, Officials Say, wont make it safe. Theyll use bottled water for everything. What is your message to those who think help isnt coming fast enough. Fema has a Logistics Center in hawaii and immediately after the incident started moving food and water, protective masks, Shelter Equipment into maui to support the state of hawaii. We continue to flow additional commodities in. We have over 250 personnel on the ground with 50 to 60 of those people specifically designed to work in shelters and other areas where survivors are to get them registered for that immediate assistance. Okay. Jeremy greenberg, i appreciate you taking the time with us. Well stay on top of this story. Thank you very much. When were back in just 60 seconds, all eyes on georgia with another potential indictment looming for donald trump. The witnesses expected before a grand jury this week. Plus, five killed in this deadly House Explosion that neighbors say sounded like a bomb went off. What happened . Ahead, a scary scene high above an air show. How who pilots managed to eject moments before their planes crashed. A Kansas Police department at the center of a growing Firestorm Afraiding a local newspaper and the home of its publisher, a raid so traumatic the publisher is blaming it for his mothers death. Have fun, sis cant stop adding stuff to your cart . Get the Bank Of America customized cash rewards card, choose the Online Shopping category and earn 3 cash back. [sneeze] astepro allergy, steroid free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes, while other Allergy Sprays take hours. With astepros unbeatably fast allergy relief you can astepro and go welcome back. Right now all eyes on georgia as we await the possible fourth criminal indictment of donald trump. Fulton County District attorney fani willis has signaled charges could come as soon as this week related to the expresident s alleged attempt to overturn georgias 2020 election. Just a few minutes ago, former State Senator and State Representatives who were both subpoenaed in the case were spotted at the Fulton County courthouse. Weve learned at least two witnesses have been notified to testify before the grand jury tomorrow, meaning this australiaing and years long investigation may be coming to a conclusion. Nbc news correspondent Blayne Alexander is live outside the Fulton County courthouse. Thanks for joining us. Blayne, were seeing activity at the courthouse this morning. What do we know . Weve been outside of this courthouse for the better part of three hours since the early part of this morning. Youre right, things are ramping up. Were seeing a lot of activity. We have been watching both outside and inside the courthouse, weve seen two notable people, people who have received subpoenas to appear before the fulton grand jury. We saw them enter and walk toward the das office in this sprawling complex. What that tells us, that is the clearest indication that shes beginning to present her case to the grand jury. Those two lawmakers, ben engineer den and dee nguyen, both are former democratic lawmakers. The significance to this case is they were in presentations that Rudy Giuliani made before a number of State Lawmakers back in 2020 where he espoused a number of since Debunked Claims at georgias elections and claiming fraud. We do know something that fani willis is looking into. The fact that they were subpoenaed lets us know that will be part of her presentation to the grand jury. The other two people were watching is george sheed difficult, an independent journalist, along with geoff duncan. She, of course, is looking into the fake electors. George sheed difficult stumbled on those electors. Geoff duncan can speak to trump and his allies pressuring State Lawmakers to overturn the Election Results in georgia. We know theyre slated to come tomorrow. Weve known a case of this scope will likely take two full days to present before grand jury a that meets on monday and tuesday. Were officially on indictment watch here in Fulton County. Gwen, we know there was a Special Grand Jury that did the investigative work over the course of many months. My understanding is this grand jury has been presented with their conclusions and the key evidence. Can you expand upon that . Take us inside the courtroom leading up to a vote on potential charges. Whats going to happen . Sure. Let me first explain, the Special Grand Jury was just investigative. They could not return any kind of indictment. Their job was to collect as much facts and evidence as possible and come up with recommendations. Now that da willis has that, most likely she will have one or two or more of her investigators summarize that evidence and also supplement it with actual testimony from the witnesses that you just talked about in terms of the former members of the Georgia House and the georgia senate. So what will happen, each of these witnesses, including her investigators, would be sworn in. They would have the opportunity to describe what they know, usually in answers to the district attorneys questions. The grand jurors themselves will be able to ask any questions that they might have. If we get to tomorrow where all testimony is closed and the grand jurors have no further questions or dont want to hear from any other witnesses, the d. A. Will close the evidence, all her staff will leave the room. The grand jurors will then begin deliberations. If we see indictments, its because 12 or more of them agree theres sufficient evidence for the case to move forward. Really interesting that the grand jurors get to ask questions as well of those witnesses who are testifying before them. Greg, you have new reporting about the possibility of Racketeering Charges against trump and his allies in this investigation. What can you tell us about that . District attorney fani willis is an expert in Racketeering Charges. Shes brought them in front of atlanta Public Schools cheating case about a decade ago. Shes hired experts in that case. Georgia has its own Racketeering Charge that is more expasive than the federal charges. We expect these two days of hearings to be, as d. A. Fleming just mentioned, took eight months, involved 75 or so witnesses. This wont be calling all those witnesses. This will be a highlight reel of the witnesses that came before the grand jury. Some of them will be asked to help present the case or build the case of Racketeering Charges. Others could be evoling fake electors in coffee county, attempt to copy Election Data down there. As we heard earlier, two State Lawmakers who were directed involved in those legislative hearings where they lie factchecked pro trump Conspiracy Theories promoted by Rudy Giuliani and some other protrump lawyers at that legislative committee hearing. Greg, explain why the Racketeering Charges could apply here. It sounds like that would mean a lot of people could be facing charges and this indictment could be quite large. Yeah. All those issues i just mentioned could be wrapped into a potential Racketeering Charge as the d. A. Looks to build an expansive case. This is why this case is so different from the other indictments. First, theyre state charges, not federal. Second, shes looking at a wide orbit of Donald Trumps allies. Nearly 20 people at least 18 people we know of got potential target letters. This could play into potential Racketeering Charges as the d. A. , fani willis, tries to build the case, showing this was a complicated, complex plot by donald trump to overturn georgias Election Results. Gwen, you know fani willis personally. We know shes been receiving full ger and threatening messages. What do you want people to know about fani willis . How do you think shes approaching this moment in this historic case . First of all, shes a consummate professional. Shes not going to be distracted from the oath she took as d. A. , which means shes indicated that she will investigate and pursue charges without fear, favor or affection. So shes going to move forward no matter how disturbing the attacks or threats are. The other thing is, as a lawyer licensed in georgia, shes following her rules of ethics. So again, that combination i would suggest gives the residents of Fulton County and really folks around the country comfort in knowing she is not looking at this as a part san matter. Shes looking at this squarely through the lens of what are the facts and then applying the law to those facts. Shes looking at them through the lens of ensuring she can protect the integrity of the case, and obviously the defendants rights. Thats something that all prosecutors try to do. Again, we need to wait and see how the grand jury will evaluate the evidence that they are presented. D. A. Willis is focused, and she is not going to be taken off of her plan to ensure that, if any wrongdoing was done, shes going to ensure those that did it be held accountable. Seems like theres a lot, a lot on her shoulders right now. Ive often said she was called for a time such as this. Shes a tenacious prosecutor. Shes very familiar with rico statutes much like greg mentioned before. She is seasoned. Shes worked in that office and with those judges for a number of years. Again, she is this is what she has been prepared for. Okay. 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Yet former President Donald Trump still dominated the attention even as he dodged questions about the latest legal troubles hes facing. We dont take plea deals because i did nothing wrong. Its called election interference. Nbcs ali vitali spent all weekend at the fair. Also with us, former rnc Communications Director doug high and former Obama White House aide elena beverly. Reporter this is a weekend where trump was characteristically defiant. Then you had the other competitors trying to shake as many hands and meet as many iowans as they possibly could. This is at least in iowa one of the key Kickoff Events to the primary season. Even though its so central, even though its an opportunity for someone like Florida Governor ron desantis to try to get his feet back under him amid stumbles, its an opportunity for nikki haley and tim scott to continue presenting themselves to iowa voters. Theyre looking specifically to the first republican debate. Thats going to come just over a week from today in milwaukee. Their prep hinges on whether or not trump is on the stage. Governor nikki haley said she thinks he should be. Here is part of our conversation. When you put all of the options on that stage, people are going to be able to tell which direction they want to go. They dont want to go backwards. They want to go forward. Even if hes not on that stage . If hes not on the stage, hes taking the chance that everybody is going to talk about his record. Well see if hes scared to get on the debate stage. I would expect him to get up there. Reporter haley at least trying to Pay Attention of the ways to get drum onto the debate stage, saying hes too scared to debate. One of the things he has to do, its not just a matter of walking on stage and debating, though he said he might not want to do that. Its about signing that rnc Loyalty Pledge that hed support the nominee even if its not him. You have these candidates eating pork on a stick, doing raps. You have trump that flies in, is at the fair for a total of 85 minutes on saturday and barely being at the event, hes the one getting all the attention at the iowa state fair. Your reaction to this. Its not surprising. Remember, donald trump took an escalator ride down in his hotel to announce a campaign that no one knew if it was serious or not. It got nonstop coverage. We still show that footage today. The rules are different for donald trump than they are for anyone else. If youre ron desantis, nikki haley, tim scott or anyone else, youll have to work that fair relentlessly and meet as many voters as you can. Drchl be there for a little bit and still dominate the coverage. Thats been true since he announced his campaign in 2015 and remains today. Elaine, the first debate is next week. Will trump show up for that . Gop candidates are having to prepare for any possibility. We heard nikki haley trying to goad trump to debate. If hes not there, who stands to benefit the most . Its questionable whether or not he shows up. I dont think it is to his benefit to show up regardless of whether or not hes in the room. He will still be the topic of conversation. There will still be a candidate having to contend with his record but also having to contend with his legal troubles. I think they havent been tested yet and havent had a debate about trump without trump in the room, because so many of them have avoided speaking about him in any way, shape or form. Even in iowa this week with the fairside chats held by the government, they asked questions of the contenders. No one said what would happen if trump were there. Ron desantis got this reaction at an event there in iowa. Take a watch. The governor from florida, ron desantis. [ booing ]. I want to say thank you to the men and women of Law Enforcement for what you do for us. He was booed, does his trouble connecting with voters surprise you . It doesnt tell me anything about ron desantis. It tells me about donald trump. The difference between donald trump in the 2016 iowa caucus and today, he didnt have a Real Campaign in 2016. Its part of why he lost to ted cruz who was very organized on the ground. We know donald trump has captains in all 99 counties in iowa. Hes organized in a way he wasnt before. His people were there. Thats who we heard booing. If youre a trump supporter, that was your job, Mission Accomplished in this example. It doesnt tell me anything about ron desantis. It tells us about the voters, who theyre getting support for. We mentioned a couple of Democratic Candidates were at the fair. You spoke with rfk jr. What was the Biggest Surprise . Reporter our conversation about Abortion Access was surprising. Hes had multiple conspiracy that hinge around the fact that people should be in charge of their own medical choice. This was the exchange when i asked him first if he would protect Abortion Access the way it was first protected by the roe v. Wade precedent. Here is a part of our conversation. I believe that a decision to abort a child should be up to the woman during the first three months of life. You would cap it at 15 weeks . Yeah. Or 21 weeks . Yeah, three months. You would sign a federal cap on that . Yeah. Reporter ana, as you can see there, we had multiple rounds of questions on this. I was continuously trying to make sure i was understanding his position correctly. Ultimately the Kennedy Campaign came back several hours later. And after conservative groups like the susan b. Annies list praised his stance. He came back and said he misheard or misunderstood my questions. Clearly if you look at that part of the video and the transcript, there was a long exchange about this. Kennedy is one of those very controversial figures. An anti vaccine conspiracy spearist. This interview puts him far out of step with where most of the Democratic Party is. Kennedy affirming that he is, in fact, prochoice. Never a dull moment at the iowa state fair. Appreciate you all. Up next on ana cabrera reports, a kansas raid at a new hampshire. Stunning video out of pennsylvania. The Home Explosion that claimed five lives. The question now about what caused it. The explosion was such a force, it literally lifted you off your feet. Threw us off the couch to the floor. At the Alzheimers Association walk to end alzheimers, this is why we walk. Theyre why we walk. We walk in the Alzheimers Association walk to end alzhiemers because were getting closer to beating this disease. Join us. Woman why did we choose safelite . Vo for us, driving around is the only way we can get our baby to sleep, so when our windshield cracked, we needed it fixed right. We went to safelite. Com. Theres no one else wed trust. 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It was so powerful, it leveled three homes and damaged about a dozen others in a town about 20 miles northeast of pittsburgh. Nearly 60 firefighters were treated for minor injuries. Nbcs emilie ikeda joins us from plum, pennsylvania. That video is jaw dropping. Is there any sense of how this happened . Reporter its absolutely staggering. Good to be with you, ana, this morning. Still so many Unanswered Questions about what led to the deadly explosion that happened on saturday morning, really changing the fabric of this community. You said it. The video itself. You take a look. A massive fireball after that explosion and then a rain of debris showering the entire neighborhood. Also, a few from above gives you another glance at just what were saying when we say shredded to pieces. Three homes completely leveled from this explosion and at least another dozen homes were damaged from the debris, from the force. I saw one home four houses down from the explosion where all the windows were absolutely blown out. I talked to a man who was at home several doors down from the explosion on saturday morning. He helped pull his neighbor from the rubble. Take a listen to what he had to say. T you imagine reporter Officials Say five people were killed in the House Explosion. Were learning at least two of the names Incluing Casey and keegan clontz, keegan just 12 years old. They were described as devoted and loving. Gas still has not been restored in this community. Its not clear when it will be. Youll see the major presence from crews on the ground, peoples gas, who says in the initial evaluation they havent discovered any immediate issues, that the system had been operating as designed. Investigators warn that determining a cause of this deadly explosion could take months, if not years. For reference, last year there was another House Explosion and Officials Say theyre still looking into the cause of that one. So a long road ahead, ana. Incredible. So sad, a 12yearold boy. Emilie ikeda, thank you so much. Now to kansas where a local Police Department is becoming engulfed in a nationwide controversy over First Amendment rights. The department raided the offices of a local newspaper and the home of its publisher and owner. They seized computers, phone, server, even the personal cell phones of the staff. According to the papers coowner, the situation was so stressful for the other coowner, his 98yearold mother, she collapsed and died the day after the raid. Joining us is nbc news correspondent stephanie gosk. Stephanie, do we know what prompted this raid . The accusation, ana, is that someone at the paper is guilty of Identity Theft when it comes to the owner of a Small Business. By the way, this is a really small town, about 2,000 people. The police had a search warrant. The question is, did they have the probable cause to execute the search that they did . The papers owner says they did not. In fact, hes questioning whether the search should have taken place at all. This Morning National attention on a small kansas town after police raided the offices of a local newspaper, seizing reporters computers and phones. The raid captured here on Surveillance Video obtained by nbc news has made headlines nationwide, stirring a debate over freedom of the press. Running guess stap toelike tactic, stalinistlike tactic. Eric meyer says his 98yearold mother, the coowner, collapsed and died a day after the raid. She became so upset about this, she wouldnt eat that day, she didnt sleep. Reporter she says a tip one of the reporters newell accused the paper of invading her privacy after she through meyer and a report ir out of a political event. Reporter the police chief defending a raid writing, the judicial system that is being questioned will be vindicated. While meyer defended his paper. When somebody comes i represented your house, takes your computer, your mothers computer, you begin thinking a little paranoid. That paper owner says hes going to be taking legal action. There are questions about whether or not there is a federal law when it comes to the First Amendment and specific protection for the media. Like i say, it will come down in many ways to that probable cause affidavit for the search. There is much more to this story. Stay stunned. Stephanie gosk, thank you. Next on ana cabrera reports, video catching two pilots ejecting at an airshow moments before their planes crassed. Dozens of people, Hundreds Of Thousands in luxury goods and bear spray. The smashandgrab chaos at an l. A. Mall. At an l. A. Mall. man what if my Type 2 Diabetes takes over . woman what if all i do isnt enough . 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It is the latest in a series of Smash And Grab crimes against major retailers across the country. Nbcs sam brock has the details. An l. A. Area nordstroms blitz saturday by smash is and grab burglars, just the latest to shock a city. People were very scared. They were running as if there was an active shooter. Reporter police say the mob used bear spray to disarm security with 30 to 50 people ransacking the Handbag Section of the store stealing around 100,000 of high end inventory. L. A. P. D. Promises to find those involved. Is there any doubt in your mind this is organized crime, and has it become a lot more sophisticated . Theres no doubt that this is organized. Some of it involves gang members. Some of it involves people that would identify as professional retail thieves. Reporter though the l. A. Area alone has been battered by four such robberies in the last couple of weeks, its been a National Problem for years. From Sledge Hammers in new york city to san franciscos union square mayhem in 2021 to the sudden clothing grab in atlanta. Heatha herzog wrote a book on the crime trend and points to changes in local laws. Is there someone all of these cities have in common . Reporter its the threshold for these cities to prosecute for grand larceny. The threshold has increased. Some thieves no longer think twice about stealing with stores in 2022 losing tens of billions to theft. As for l. A. P. D. s investigation, the criminals should expect harsh consequences. For those individuals that were involved in this where bear spray was discharged against the security staff, youre going to find an elevated prosecution. Clearly they were doing it in concert. Reporter sam brock nbc news. Okay, come take a look at this next video, scary scene at a michigan air show. A retired russian fighter jet experienced a malfunction during aerial maneuvers. This was yesterday at the thunder over michigan. 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Its hard to believe, i know, but fall is already right around the corner. Doctors say that means its times to start thinking about those fall vaccines, the flu shot like always of course. A new Covid Vaccine as cases again start to tick up, and you may also be eligible for a new shot against the respiratory virus rsv. Lets bring in pulmonologist and msnbc medical contributor dr. Vin gupta. Doctor, so nice to see you. Whats causing this current covid uptick, and should we be concerned about it going into the fall . Ana, it should be a source of vigilance here. What were seeing is a virus that continues to evolve. Theres now a new variant that is more transmissible than any of the prior variants weve been talking about for the last four years. This is something to be vigilant about. Hospitalizations are up about 50 from the beginning of june. Still well below their peak but a source ofville lance. I think a lot of people are thinking, really, do i need to get another vaccine for this . Whats your recommendation . Who should be getting the vaccine and when, and is there anything we should really be worried about here . Yeah, for your viewers here we have a graphic that id love to show, which shows based on your category and your age, what you should be doing. If youre under 60 otherwise in good health, you should get the flu shot just like you should any given year. That lasts four to six months. The covid shot as well, durable protection against severe infection, four to six months. I would recommend all of you that are watching get that around late september. You can get the covid flu shot at the same time. Rsv is really limited to those who are medically high risk or if youre over 60. If youre over 60 or medically high risk, thats a conversation with your medical professor, but thats who should get that rs are v vaccine. Id recommend getting that now if youre in that target group. With all of these different illnesses brewing, is there anything you think we should be doing differently as we head into the fall. First of all, dont let your guard down. I think weve all accepted this terminology that were past the worst of the pandemic, we certainly are. Dont let your guard down. Viruses like colder, drier air. Mask if youre going to be in Public Places like an airplane cabin. Paxlovid utilization, that treatment for covid19 very low. We need to build awareness. If youre somebody whos medically high risk especially, know that that exists, have tests on hand especially as we get into the winter time. If youre positive, the earlier you get treatment the more likely youll stay away from somebody like me. Lastly, boost, were seeing utilization of these boosters quite low. Many reasons for that. One of which is misinformation. Important to recognize that these boosters can keep you out of the hospital and important to get those rates up. We have about 30 seconds, but back to school top of mind for parents. Whats your message to parents in terms of making sure their children are ready to go . Vaccines. We have seen that Vaccine Utilization for things like measles, mumps, and rubella and the annual flu shot are very low. Probably impacted by the way in which we talk about the Covid Vaccine. Infection control, hand hygiene, but annual flu shots, their usual childhood vaccine series critical here. Pay attention to science and the actual right information, not misinformation. Okay. Well be ready to go. Dr. Vin gupta, thank you so much for that important information. And thats going to do it for us today. Thanks so much for joining us. Well see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place as always. For now, im Ana Cabrera Reporting from new york. Jose diazbalart picks up our coverage right now. Good morning, 11 00 a. M. Eastern, 8 00 a. M. Pacific, im jose diazbalart. 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