Gingered, and all in with chris hayes starts now. Starts now tonight on all in. How do you plead the five counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with the performance of the election . Guilty. Donald trumps first codefendant makes a plea deal. Theyre also be the condition that you are to testify truthfully in this case and for the proceedings. Tonight, the first domino falls in Fulton County. What does it mean for the trial that is starting in three weeks, and for the ex president himself . Then, the absolute absurdity of a trump Maga Shutdown just hours away. People here in washington need to understand how it feels to get shut down. The congress in California Say Goodbye to an Iconic American senator. America, america is a better place because of senator Diane Feinstein. When all in starts, right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes. Weve got Breaking News tonight in the criminal prosecution of donald trump in the state of georgia. The first guilty plea from a codefendant of the ex president. This is scott hall. He is an atlanta area Bail Bondsman and one of the 19 people charged in that Fulton County repo r. I. C. O. Case for interfering with the 2020 Election Results in georgia. Last month haltered South UniontownFulton County jail and pleaded not guilty along with donald trump and the rest of his codefendants. This afternoon that all changed after hall reached a deal with Fulton County prosecutors. How do you plead to the five count of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with the performance of election . Guilty. Do you understand that the sentence for each of those counts will be 12 months yes maam. A total of five years. Yes, maam. So five years of probation. Hall will also have to pay 5000 dollar fine, served 200 Hours Community service, and he already recorded the statement for prosecutors and will write a public apology to georgia voters. Crucially, as part of that plea deal, scott hall also agreed to cooperate in the prosecution of his codefendants. Do you understand the conditions of your probation are that you testify truthfully and any further Court Proceedings to make any listed on the initial indictment with which you arrived . Yes, maam. You understand that you are continue to cooperate with inched tierneys office and provide any documents needed for the prosecution . Yes, maam. Scott hall played a key role in the conspiracy to overturn the election in georgia as prosecutors laid out in the indictment. On january 7th, after the sixth, still going afr the six, keep in mind, the day after the insurrection, along with trump lawyer sydney powell, Coffee CountyRepublican Party chair cathy latham and county elections supervisor misty hampton, quote, committed the Felony Offensive Interference with primaries and elections by willfully and unlawfully tampering with electronic Ballot Markers and tabulating machines in Coffee County, georgia. Surveillance footage shows hall, with several of the people, entering the county Election Office that day. They were welcomed in by party chair cathy latham. Hall was also captured on video inside the office, where he helped the group as they copied data from the voting machines. Why were they doing this . This was part of the big lie Conspiracy Theory heavily pushed by sydney powell that Voting Systems made by a Company Named dominion, which these were, were part of a plot to steal the election from donald trump. So scott all served as a sort of go between for powell and highranking officials to this group Of Trump Activists on the ground in georgia. Halls plea deal comes on the same day the prosecutor signaled they may also offer deals to more defendants. During a pretrial conference this morning for trumps lawyers, sydney powell and Kenneth Chesebro, prosecutor told judge scott matt mcafee, we believe we can make plea offers in the near future. Pella and chesebros trial, the first in the georgia case, is set to begin with Jury Selection in just three weeks, and considering what scott hodges were to in court, it is certainly possible he will be cooperating or testifying against them. We have known since Fulton CountyDistrict Attorney fani willis brought the case, that all 19 defendants would not likely go to trial. Of course we did not know who might opt to take a plea deal or when. Now we have the first cooperator, most likely, i would be willing to bet, he will not be the last. Harry litman service writ Deputy Catherine christian is a former assistant manhattan District Attorney. Both join me now. Christian, let me ask you now. What jumped out at me, was no jail. Time five years probation, a fine, apology, community service. 200 hours. Ever thinking about playing, it seems to me there is a real big difference between no jail time and going to trial or being convicted when you will face jail time. What do you think . Exactly. Thats why he pled guilty. Its no coincidence that he pled guilty less than a month from when sydney powell and Kenneth Chesebro are going to trial, because he is particularly against miss Powell A Major witness and i will predict that many more of the defendants will be pleading guilty. This is what happens in a conspiracy case. We have multiple defendants. The ones with the lowering, the ones who are not the leaders, they will get a deal that will either be no jail time or something very minimal, and its a great incentive for them to plea. Right now theyre lawyers for several defendants are engaging in conversations with the d. A. s office. Todays plea was a surprise, or theyre keeping a very confidential. Its not shocking. Its typically what happens when a conspiracy case has all these defendants. Theres a reason why fani willis was saying im going to trial with these 19 defendants. She has the experience, prosecutors have experience with these cases, but you dont go to trial with 19 because many will end up pleading guilty. If you read the indictment, harry, the defendant that has the most proximate connection to one up, the other folks who are in that Coffee County offices sydney powell. Inside, she gets sent the data. She then shares it with other people, that they have purloined pretty clearly, i think, in violation of the law, at least from these election machines. The first person that this would seem to have good implications is powell, who is facing trial in three weeks. What do you think . 100 and. Powell actually pays the firm that goes in and purloins all the data. There is no doubt that they had the authority to do it. We is known as fani willis for r. I. C. O. Cases. The previous one with educators started with 35 defendants. 12 went to trial. 11 were convicted. It still took eight months, but only 12 went to trial. So you saw a cascade of please. What prosecutors will be seeing now is first in, best deal. So haul is seeing, now, all, it is true, has direct, this sort of Coffee County story is discreet and involves those four. But he is kind of a general inter meddler, which is a Job Description in trump world in December Of 2020 and also applies to jeff clark and chesebro. We know among other things that he has an hour plus phone call with clark in early january. So he is kibitzing generally. What he can provide in addition to the three Coffee County defendants, who must be very seriously contemplating getting a plea deal today, remains to be seen. But it could be kind of rich and extend beyond Coffee County. I want to talk about something you just said. Someone else i saw, i online, i dont remember this from t indictment, but you just mentioned it, on or about the second day of january, 2021, before the break it in Coffee County, scott graham hall, the y who just pled guilty today, placed a phone call to Jeffrey Bassler Clark to discuss the november 3rd election in georgia. The phone call was 63 minutes and duration. Hes got an hourlong phone call with another codefendant, jeffrey clark. We dont know if it relates to Coffee County. Wed have no idea. But clark is named in the indictment. Clark just had his motion to move to federal Court Dismissed yesterday. He lost that. Yesterday. So hes gonna be facing trial. And now it does seem like hall might be someone he has to worry about. Definitely. Thats over to act number 110. What was he speaking when over an hour to a man the donald trump was going to make the acting Attorney General until the top deputies in the doj said they would quit . So he will be a valuable witness against mr. Clark. Of course mr. Clark is pointing the fingers at trump. His lawyer, and trying the case removed, said everything he did was at the direction of donald trump. So there will be more people pleading guilty, but mr. Hall is one, the first one, probably, a number of other defendants who will be cooperating, who will be testifying for the prosecution against the higher level people in this case. Which brings us to powell and chesebro. Theyre facing trial, they both want to invoke the speedy trial rights, they are facing what is now a very speedy trial. And harry, the question is, my understanding is that williss office, i dont know if they said this specifically or if it was implied, that they would offer a plea to these two individuals as well. Do you think a plea is forthcoming . Do you think todays plea changes the odds calculation for either of these . What do you think is happening in their corner on defense right now . So the second question, let me take, because the answer is definitely. Thats how these things work. Theres a complicated game theory thing going on. As i said so now that someone has come in, and especially powell has to think very hard. Chesebro will see, he sees himself as isolated. Remember he initially wanted to be on his own and Sidney Powells speedy trial motion wasnt unwelcome addition to his strategy. But we want to think about clark, roughly speaking, chris, there are at least three groups here. The false electors and the people who facilitated them, Coffee County and the higher ups. And what is so intriguing about halls, he clearly gets the Coffee County folks but potentially with ellis and with clark the penetrates the higher circle of federal officials. So we will just have to see. Without a doubt, though, everyone in georgias tie into their attorneys, thinking holy cow. Especially because so many of them, we dont, dont have the funds to defend this, and this is the easy way out, especially if they dont have to do a day in Fulton County jail, which is not a pretty place to spend any time at all. In fact, jenna alice has complained about not having any money. And harry just named another category of codefendant, catherine, that i can imagine we might see, those state electors. Relatively low on the wrong. They are implementing as opposed to masterminding. Again, as far as we know, and as far as being named in the indictment, you can imagine they would probably be the sort of folks that might have a better shot of the most favorable terms earlier in terms of a plea. Yes. And they are also gonna be denied that theyre trying to get their cases in federal court. Why . Because they say they did what they did because of donald trump in the campaign told them to do that. So they are easy. I also think that what i call the log squad, kanye west, former publicist, the from chicago and the voices for black people for trump. So people have a criminal record, those are the easy picking because they will say, we did what we did because trump told us to. So there are a lot of conversations going on, just like we didnt know about whole, theyll be hearing more. Im Sure Sydney Powell and the lawyer todays are saying oh shoot, when they found out about this. Harry litman and catherine christian, edifying is always. I appreciate it. Thank you both. 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