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And this is dateline. I even got hypnotize once to try and communicate with my mom to see if she could tell me Rachel Anderson had one great passion she loved being a mom so much and with kids at home it was extra scary when someone started stalking her. She got real panicked and she said. I think theres someone outside watching her every move knowing where shes at in her house making disturbing calls suddenly rachael disappeared and the desperate search began. Months went by the case stalled then investigators learned might be bigger and than they ever could have guessed this is whispers that rachael was the victim of something out of hitchcock. Movie a moment of pure evil. And just maybe, a second woman in the crosshairs. If the choices were true then you are married a stranger. Exactly. Hello and welcome to dateline the story youre about to hear our begins too with all too familiar a woman disappears and police put the Men In Her Life under a microscope. Thats how this but as detective follow the route its a country so beautiful as the pollutes, The Bean Fields and Wheat Fields Running ups and down, hug eastern Eastern Washington as far as the eye can see. Its hard to imagine anything bad happening here. But gaze and listen closely, and sometimes youll uncover secrets in the shadows. Murder and betrayal as close as the strangers sleeping beside you. Here in the city of clarkson, a 40 year old single mom was raising her two young sons. She also had two older daughters. Rachel anderson was her name, just five foot and a bit, and how Susie Jefferson enjoyed her company. We were just friends from the getgo. She was just spunky and fun, and she just love to laugh. Her grown daughters were out of the house. Amber she was my hero. She was my everything. She just had a really fun spirit about her. Ashley she raised us, gave us everything we needed. And taught us everything we needed to know. Rachel have been married and divorced three terms times when by the spring of 2009, a new men had entered the picture. She told me she had met somebody. Theyd gone out on a date. And that she was very impressed because he wanted to have a blessing over the food. As she thought that was just wonderful. A publicly christian man with a notorious gangsters last name. Charles capone. I asked her out for dinner, and we went to dinner. And we found each other attractive. What made you laugh about her . How she looked at life. Everything is to be absorbed. Everybody should have the time. Nobody should. Fight rachael told her daughters about charles. How kind and handsome he was and successful. He owned a busy Auto Repair Shop in moscow, idaho. He did services on peoples cars for no charge, to help people who dont have the money in the community. The new couple were soon regulars at sunday worship. Charles found himself with a new business partner. She started helping me with the shop. She had the office totally changed around, working more efficiently and saving me money in just a matter of two months. Rachael and charles dove headlong into whirlwind romance. Introducing may, they look to november. The newlyweds made the their home at rachael about 30 miles south of rachels of charles is on russia. Rachel sons, lived with them. We took the kids fishing, theyve never been fishing before. She throw on camo and go hunting with the guys. But the thrill was gone not more than a month after the wedding. The couple went their separate ways. Lonely charles moved into his shop for a while until a friend offered him a place to stay. Separated, but their lives remained curiously entwined. We were talking all the time, were either getting along, or not getting along. We could have one phone call that was just enjoyable. Talking about things that need to be taken care of. Then wed have one phone call where we were just going at each other. As winter turned to spring in 2010, rachael and charles did have something to talk about, strange unsettling things were happening to rachael. She told her friend someone was stalking her. We were talking late at night and she got real panicked. And she said, i think theyre somebody outside. And then came a rush of disturbing phone calls. No color i. D. , disguise voices. Its funny, you just dont get it. She gave her friend jennifer the lowdown. What kinds of things were going on with her . This phone calls, distorted voices. Creepy movie kind of stuff . Knowing when shes in her house, which lights were on. Not just i know we are, i know were you are in the bedroom. I know what time you came home last night. What time you left today. Just watching her every move. Its really a matter of time before we get yourself a number. Charles meanwhile told rachel he was getting the same kind of disturbing calls. And in april, it got worse. Rachels vehicle was vandalized more than once. Tires slashed, windows broken. Charles volunteered to fix her car, even though they were living apart. He gave her a loaner suv to drive. Rachael was pretty sure who is behind all this scary nonsense. A guy shed gone out with a few times and had developed, she thought, an unhealthy thing about. Her rachael went to the county Sheriffs Office and told her story to then captain dan. She was extremely frightened. She believed an individual that she had dated for a couple weeks, by the name of william, was the one stalking and harassing her. So when rachael left that day, what was the plan . She was going to essentially going to put that together the instant formation that she had. And then we were going to me again that friday. Did you see the her again, captain . I talked to her on the phone by never saw her again. Not long after leaving the Sheriffs Office, rachael applied for a Restraining Order against william. It was the weekend, the two boys had visitation with her. That it wasnt until mid morning the following monday, that people began to realize that something had gone very wrong. Rachels Daughter Amber got a message that her mom hadnt shown up for work as a medical technician. Totally unlike her. Yes. I knew immediately that it was bad. Amber got word to Sister Ashley and they raced to their moms home. When there was no answer at the door, they called the police. Captain halle dispatched his lead detective Jackie Nichols. There were several people in the front yard. Rachels daughters, and they were frantic. I searched the house looking for any types of evidence. Nothing. No. Last time i saw her she said, i think this will end in my death. Where was Rachael Anderson . And all out search uncovers and ominous clue. Coming up. The vehicle was left unlocked with her purse in plain sight, with the keys sitting in plain sight. What woman leaves her purse behind . It was a bad sign. When dateline continues. 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Detectives could find no atm or Cell Phone Activity since a voice mail rachel left at 8 09 friday night. That meant rachel had been off the grid nearly three days. I knew there was something very, very wrong. Youd swung into action . I had about 1000 flyers printed at staples. Monday afternoon, Law Enforcement pinged rachels cell phone and got a weak echoe just across the snake river from her home. We had a lot of people out into the field that night. Also use the bloodhound to do a live search. The search was futile. Early the next day, tuesday, captain hally formed a regional missing person tax. Force so whats on your white board . The former boyfriend. Ex husband. Family. Theres been a neighbor that lived across the street from where rachel that had some suspicious behaviors hed ask rachel out on a date. She turned him down. And then he left town very abruptly. I mean thats certainly suspect. We were checking hospitals, travel information. We check every Breath Ticket that was still that. Weekend and early lead may have come when rachael talk To Sherisse Captain Dan Hally the week before. She told him that day she was terrified as the guy messing with her. But the captain had a different stocking suspect in mine after rachel told him she was divorcing charles. So, an early start for investigator was charles is. Shop so whos the guy you . Met he was easygoing, very cordial. Hes been cooperative. I didnt have anything to hide. What was i going to hide . Here they come, driving up. As like, come on it. Charles assured police he had nothing to do with a stalking or damaging of her car. Youre not vandalizing the vehicle . Youre not scary watching her house . Did you slash her tires . Absolutely. Not did you . Absolutely not. In fact, charles still the cops, he was helping us rachael get to the bottom of the harassment. He said the estranged couple together went out looking for the obsessed exboyfriend to store him out. She tells me about him and then we go driving over to his house, because theres a pay form right near his house. It was one of the payphones he was making phone. Sir you thought he was the stalker . We just thought he was still involved with her because he had this huge on rachael. Charles went on to tell the investigators he had seen rachel since friday night when she stopped by the garage to pick up her car. It wasnt ready. He described how she was upset because hes working on her car charles said rachel then left to buy a computer. She couldnt find what she wanted but returned with a six pack. They drank a few of the beers, he said, and she left. Whats the picture coming together for you . Were trying to keep all options open. Because i was concerned that she might have been impaired. That evening and couldve driven off the road. A benign kind of explanation for why shes gone missing . Right. A few hours later, this theory was doused when they located retails suv. And a Convenience Store that double as a bus station not far from her house. The vehicle was left unlocked with her purse in plain sight, with a key sitting in plain sight. What woman leaves her purse behind . It was a bad sign. And the detectives had to consider another scenario. Had pretty, five foot four inch rachel, 120 pounds soaking wet, offered an easy target for an abduction by a stranger unknown . While detectives were doing their official thing, rachels loved ones were widening their increasingly the lead desperate search all across. We were handing flyers from here to cool facts. East, west, north, south, we were out every available minute. It was as the she was just swallowed up. Coming up. Finally, a break. Police learned there was somebody else with Charles Capone, the night rachel disappear. But something doesnt add up. He provided a timeline for that evening. And it was different than Charles Capones timeline. When dateline continues. 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Shes not in anybodys Emergency Room . No. You suspect foul play . Absolutely. The investigators started working through their way through a list of suspects. Starting with the men who wanted to be in rachels life. There was the neighbor who try to take her out and had been turned down. He had an alibi. That left with the old boyfriend neared slim. Who rachel said she was afraid. Of but he couldve count for his whereabouts when rachael missing. The former boyfriend was not playing out . Correct. You had to follow all the leads . Absolutely. As these thread started we, would follow them as we could. But Charles Capone was the one that was never dead in. Captain dan hally had been suspicious of charles ever since rachel stopped by to make a stalking complained about the exboyfriend. But that same day, rachael had also told the captain she was in the midst of divorcing Charles Capone. The grounds, she said he try to choker. That was a huge red flag. Captain hally advice her to get a Restraining Order right away, against very strange husband. Rachel didnt want to hear that. She was agitated because im telling her that your soon to be ex, it is charles doing this, not slim. Two days later, on the friday she vanished, the captains phone rang. She called me as she told me that she was going to see charles at night. She was going out to tell him that they were done. What did you tell her . I told her dont go. I said hes dangerous, do not go up there. Charless account of that night was looking sketchy. And the cops could suspicions grew after charles decided to stop cooperating. They suggest maybe should go downtown on the 21st. You dont do that . No, i talk to my attorney he said you dont have to go down there. The car mechanic had a secret he knew the police would uncover. It turned out that the publicly pious pray over his Pancakes Christian had a past that rachel and her family knew nothing about. A back story that included prison time, bank robbery and assault. But the one time fellon had apparently changed. Im going and doing everything normal person does. Because i always feel like, ok i paid my debt. Let me go in and do something good. The cops werent so sure and were now chasing down his friends. Including his good pal david stone. A married High School Baseball coach and employee at the moscow, idaho, maintenance department. To the investigators astonishment, david volunteered that evening hanging out with charles and rachael at the garage, the friday night she went missing. Now youve got another guy, someone with information . Somebody with information immediately raises the question. Why didnt Charles Capone ever mentioned david stone to be during the entire time i interviewed him. Three days after rachel was reported missing, the Task Force Detective sat david stone down and grilled him. He provided a timeline for that evening. And it was different than Charles Capones timeline. The husbands friends told cops rachel came by around 5 pm and waited for charles to finish her car. David stone says he then left to get some food and a w, and when he got back to the garage around eight, rachel was gone. Stone said he drove charles to a local bar, swung by his home for a while, then went out later to pick up charles at the bar. Many of the investigators knew david stone and his wife alyssa. She worked in Moscow City Hall as a grants writer. Who is david . Personality . Someone that was very caring, a really good step that. Was on the volunteer fire department. Charles capone, were they friends . Yes. Did you know rachel. . I knew her only from church. Alyssa knew her husband was at the garage that friday night and said nothing seemed amiss. What did he say was going on . He said he drop charles off at mingles and that there had been some interaction with rachael. That was not happy and charles said he wanted to have a drink. So, he dropped him off and he was gonna go back and pick himself and take him home. Intriguing, perhaps. But the two Friends Mismatched stories did nothing to advance the cops case. With rachel still missing, there was no evidence in actual crime had even occurred. All they had with their suspicions about david stone and Charles Capone. Now youve got two different versions. Different versions, they were supposedly together but theyre telling two different stories. Tangled somewhere in the differing accounts, the cops thought, there must be a buried clue about what had happened to rachael. Meantime, her heartbroken doctors did what they could to fill the awful hours. Organizing searches, building a web page and pressuring the police. ,. An affair slim if true. This is a very tantalizing scheme that comes together. This is tough of. Movies absolutely. Coming up. Police realize another woman may also be a target. 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With everyothermonth cabenuva, im good to go. Ask your doctor about cabenuva today. Welcome back to dateline. Im craig melvin. Rachael was missing. Her husband Charles Capone and his friend david stone told police they were with her the night she vanished. But the timelines they provided did not match, making investigators suspicious. Now, a third man was about to start talking. And what he had to say was explosive. Here again is Dennis Murphy with secrets of the snake river. The high and low search across the eerily Beautiful Pollutes country, for any search of Rachel Anderson was turning up. Nothing months after her disappearance, detectives were convinced they had identified their prime persons of interest. Rachels estranged husband charles, and his churchgoing buddy david stone. But the investigation had stalled and was at a parent dead and. No secret whats the biggest obstacle was four Lead Investigators captain dan hally and detective Jackie Nichols. Its an axiom in Law Enforcement nobody, no crime. At this point we dont even know we have a death. We believe that in our gut. As the cops dug deeper into the background of the husbands friend david stone, the case suddenly became way more complex. A mindblowing theory. Maybe this wasnt just about one wife, rachel, maybe it was about to. The investigation had led them to the city maintenance yard were stone worked. Fellow employee there had related a conversation hed had with david stone a while. Back is surfaces that there had been some conversations between david stone and this individual. About a plan to kill stones wife for 10,000. Then stone, the story went, came back sometime later and told the maintenance yard guy to forget they talked. He deranged a plan before murder. And later, that deal was canceled because stone had reached an agreement with Charles Capone that they would kill each others wives. Ill kill your wife, if you will kill mine . This is the stuff in the. Movies right. It is. Absolutely. To be specific, a 1950 Alfred Hitchcock thriller titled strangers on a train. In the movie, to strangers each agreed to commit a murder for the other. Did capone and stone each agreed to do in the others . Wife could that be . Do you believe it . I think there was something to it. Mr. Stone is alive and well among us . Did you talk to . Yes we. Did well what a conversation. The cops are telling me youre trying to kill. We wanted her to know that she was potentially endanger herself. You get some devastating news. But you continue to share a house with him . I did. I remember many times went i would question david and say, somethings not right. David stone was able to convince alissa that the cops had dreamed up the Murder Plot Story as a way to put pressure on him to turn against his friend. And putting pressure on that friend, Charles Capone, is what happened next. Hed been found in possession of a gun, a big no no for a former felon. Capone was placed in the county jail while awaiting federal charges on a far arm violation. In a cell, the Visiting Detectives had his full attention. And i get this interesting video visit from dan hally and Jackie Nichols. Essentials open up with today, charles youre gonna tell me you killed rachel and where her body is. And his response was, will you only got one of those right. By didnt kill. Her if charles didnt kill her, who did . The investigators landed hard on david stone. The only other person known to have been with rachel that night. When we confront him with, still we know you got blood on your hands, his response was he just sat back and said i need a drink of water. Never denied it. But thats when he wanted his attorney after that. With no reason to hold him, david stone was free to go home to wife alyssa. The woman cops feared he wanted dead. But not charles, he was about to be put on ice. Five months after rachael disappeared, he pleaded guilty to the federal firearms charge and was sentenced to almost three years. So capone was and going anywhere. But still, the Task Force Investigation focused on him and stone appear to be on at a dead end. The missing womans daughters were in limbo, too. It just went on for years. One nightmare. As happens, rachael became old news and the case received it from the headlines. Fresh cases demand the attention of detective Jackie Nichols. No problem, she took to looking for rachael on her days off. If you look around here, you can see the vastness of the countryside here. And all the various places that you could conceal a body. Going up into the mounties, coollys. Mountains, ravines. We even did some searches based on Psychic Visions and dreams. Oh really . Rachels family as much of the dead and as the cops. Also turn desperately to the supernatural. We did some pretty extreme things to find her. I even got hypnotize once to try to communicate with my mom, to have her tell me where she was. The hunt for the slightest race of rachael continued for years. Meanwhile, david stone was on the street, and by 2013, his fellow suspect buddy Charles Capone was about to be released from jail. I said, now is the time. We have to charge these guys. We have to charge them both. This case wasnt going to get any better. The idaho county prosecutor agreed, and on may day 2013, three years after rachael vanished, david stone and Charles Capone, were charged with her murder. They pleaded not guilty. In the preliminary hearing, prosecutors laid out their theory of the crime. Producing that Maintenance Yard Worker who told the story about charles and davids alleged, you kill my wife, ill kill yours plan. Stones wife alyssa hung on every word. Frightening connections were being made in her head. And when that came the sudden awful a rare nurse that the Sheriffs Officers may have been right at all after all. Her husband did want her dead. She immediately filed for divorce. The pieces all came together for me. And this as a count of him going to a coworker and saying, ill give you 10,000 bucks if youll kill my wife . You. What do you think of that story . That he was soliciting someone to kill you . Ill never know. This is beyond marital deceit. Oh yeah. If the stories were true, then you had married a stranger. Exactly. Who is dave stone . Its a mystery to me at this point. Some of the things that came up in that preliminary hearing, i look like a monster. And im not. Coming up. David stone tells a chilling tale of what he says happened the Night Rachael disappeared. He looked at me, i looked in his face that a guy had described as satan. When dateline continues. With new tequila lime shrimp. Thats seven endless choices for just 20. Right now, only at red lobster. 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County prosecuting attorney Bill Thompson and Deputy Prosecuting Attorney mia knew they had their work cut out for them. Our approach was convince the jury through the evidence, not only that rachel was dead, that there is only one person in this world who couldve been responsible for it. And thats Charles Capone. What was the biggest hill to climb in this . Because we didnt have a body, it was mostly circumstantial case. She took the lead and called a parade of witnesses, to convince a jury that rachael was indeed dead. Her exhusband had missed a call from her at 8 09 that friday night. And that was the last contact ive ever had with her. Rachaels two sons testified theyve never seen their mother again after that friday. Have you seen your mom since . No. To show jurors just how nasty charles and rachels divorce was, they played back some of those eerie, stalking phone calls. Its funny, you just dont get it. Im very concerned for her safety and wellbeing. Captain dan hally had testified that the defendant had been behind those head game calls all along. Capone even admitted as much to him. He told me that he had been involved in the stalking and harassment. Yes, and i know she was afraid. Ashely and amber, the daughters, recounted the terror of their moms ordeal. She had the feeling like her life was going to end a dreadful feeling. The prosecutors zeroed in on charles this character. Jennifer nordean recalled when her what her friend neck looked like after charles allegedly attacked rachael, four months before she disappeared. I observed that she had some red, dark colored marks on her neck. Then prosecutors produce a business neighbor, an actual eyewitness who saw charles arguing with a woman outside his auto shop that fatal night. She jumped out of the car, flailing her arms. Right up into his face. Raise your right hand before . You do formerly swear so far the testimony was all appetizers before the prosecutors and main course. Their head snapping, all or nothing star witness. None other than charles is good buddy david stone. No longer a codefendant for murder, now the man pointing the accusing finger. David stone. So majority to the Witness Stand began a year earlier during the preliminary hearing when capone whispered something to him. Charles leaned over to me and said, you shouldnt even be here. And i thought, how right you are, you a shaken stone listened to the states mounting case against him and decided he wasnt going to take the fall for charles. The prosecution did a real good job making me out to be a monster. And im not. They told you something like, we know there is blood on your hands here. That was probably one of the things they said. In cop talk, they flipped you. They flipped you against him. They were going to give you some consideration and exchange it had nothing to do with me telling the story. Stone says there was no deal with the cops. Rather, his pastor convinced him to come clean. Through numerous visits, we prayed and closing prayer that the truth would set me free. Maybe so, but the prosecution counted on his testimony to put his former friend away for a, long, long time. Do you know the defendant Charles Capone . I do. Once on the, Sandstone Set off on his tail about the events of friday, april 16th, 2010. I was inside the shop. And i heard a noise. What kind of noise . A kind of thud or a bang, just something kind of loud. When he looked outside. A struggle. I came around, closer toward the back side of rachaels car. Rachel is on her back. Back and charles was on top of her strangling. Her was rachel moving . Very little. What did you say . I said what are you doing . And he turned around, he looked at me, have a look on his face that i could describe as satan. And he told me, to shut up get a hold of myself. Youre in this with me now. I know where your family is at. Why didnt you intervene at this point . Fear . What were you afraid of . Im watching somebody kill his wife, i dont know what hes going to do to me. Two men moved rachels body into the shop. David stone testified they ditched the Loaner Vehicle Rachael was driving at the crew venus store near her home and then returned to stones garage. After that, stone said he went his job site and rounded up some old Truck Tire Snow Chains like these. They wrapped up rachaels body. Once we place rachel across the chains we rolled her across the. Chains then hes then he said theyd put rachels bodies weighted down body in his suv. With david stone at the wheel, they drove south and onto the Red Wolf Bridge over the snake river. He just said stop. I put the jeep in park and got out, open the hatch game, we pulled rachael out. Went to the side of the bridge, threw her over the side. Prosecutors interrupted stones narrative to play for jurors a recording made at the bridge. He was pulling the package out and i assisted him. And we proceeded to the side of the and threw the package over the side. Was in the package . The body of Rachael Anderson. Into the fast moving river, never to be seen again. What would the jury make of this man givens them such Critical Evidence . A play by play of the crime itself . You know theyre going to hate this guy. Thats the reality of the case. Did it matter whether the jury sat in moral judgment of your star witness . No. They wont like that he didnt intervene and he helped dispose of her body. But that doesnt change the fact that he witnessed what he did. As the state rested, it looked, ironically, as though is star witness would prove to be the best thing the defense had going for it. David stone, would the jury believe a word he said . Coming up. The other man at the center of this case. Charles capone takes the tough questions from us. This whole threat of this thing. Ill kill your wife if you kill mine. Did that happen . When dateline continues. My clearer skin. 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Right off the bat, they suggested to the jury that there was another person who just might have had a hand in rachels disappearance. Maybe that infatuated, onetime boyfriend, william slim. He died before the case came to trial. So the Defense Attorney asked Daughter Amber what she knew about him. Do you also did your mother also consider another person . Yes. And was that william slim . Yes. And was the boyfriend perceived as a menace . The defense produced a request for a Restraining Order against him that rachel had filled out. During cross examination, the defense got detective Jackie Nichols to concede another connection between rachel and slim. I recall seeing letters from william slim. After seeding the thought with jurors that maybe someone other than capone did it, the defense team turned his sights on the cops. All the things they hadnt found in their investigation. For starters, there was no physical evidence recovered at charless garage. Do you are coursing signs of his struggle outside. Thats correct. And when cops recovered rachels vehicle, there were fingerprints but not capone capones. They didnt match anybody in the system. But attacking the evidence wouldnt be enough. Justice for the prosecution, the defense case lived or died on the credibility of david stone. During a grueling, day long cross examination, charless lawyer Attacked David Stones Ferocity and his motives. David claimed he helped dispose of rachels body and then kept quiet all those years, because he was in fear of his life from charles. And yet, they continued to pal around. Why did you keep that contact every day . I kind of like to know where someones at if im concerned about my safety. Capones lawyers suggested that david stone was only out to save his own neck. And where you hope infringe for leniency . And still am. An hour after hour, the lawyer hammered away at david, who easily admitted to lying his way through any number of police interviews. Do you feel your words might not be credible . Based on the fact that ive been lying for three and a half years . Wouldnt you . In the defense close, it came back again to a central question, could the jury believe david stone . At the end of the day, what stone is telling you, it cant be true. There is no physical evidence of any foul play, anywhere. At or near that shot. Charles capone declined to testify in his own defense. And you feel comfortable in that decision . Yes, sir. Prosecutor Bill Thompson had the final word for the state. Rachel is gone forever. He ensured that her body, her physical essence, is also gone forever. But we cant let that allow him to escape responsibility. After seven days of testimony, the case went to the jury. Let me ask you that cut to the quick chase question, on friday that night, at the garage did you get her down on the ground, did you throttle your wife and kill her . I can tell you, honestly, no. Its a lie. Its been portrayed a stuff that hasnt taken place. Ive done many things, that im not proud of. Paid my dues, moved on. Try to be a better person. The whole threat of this thing, ill kill your wife, if youll kill mine. Did that happen . I cant answer that for you for. You can answer . I cant. Capone says hes made mistakes along the way. But did not kill rachel. I dont have that in me. I want to care about people, i want to love them. I do want to take somebodys life. One officer, he says im a sociopath. I have no heart. And i dont care. And i havent suffered from this. Okay. Are you a sociopath . No, i dont believe so. Ive seen my share of psychologists and stuff like that. And i think im pretty normal. I think im like most men, i just make poor decisions. Charles with on top of Rachel Strangling her. Why does he tell us the story in court that he does . Because hes going to get charged with solicitation for murder. How much time was he going to do for trying to hire someone to kill his wife . You know . Wouldnt you try to get out of that . It took the jurors nine hours to decide whether the believed david stone story. There was a verdict. Rachaels family and friends were called back to the courthouse. When the jury came in and we stood there for what seemed like an eternity. Madam, would you read the verdict to the jury. Our hearts were pounding. Is the defendant Charles Anthony capone, guilty or not guilty of murder in the first degree . The clerk read the jurys verdict. Guilty it was like this weight just was lifted from everyone. Rachaels daughters had waited four and a half years for this day. So you hear the words its just bittersweet. Youre not getting ypur mom back . No. All it is protecting other women and children from being harmed by him. Charles capone was sentenced to life without parole in february, 2015. David stone, who pleaded guilty, solely to failure to notify a death, served three years behind bars. He was released july of 2016. I want to apologize to rachaels family. When we spoke with stone, he expressed remorse for what he had done. Its a day that i think about every day. And i will for the rest of my life. If i could change it, i would. Why didnt you go get your phone and call 911 . You just witnessed a murder. And all the way up to, that point, i thought he was my friend. Did you solicit a hit on your wife . Never. Did you want her dead in those days . No. Where does that story come from . Thats a good question. David stones former wife alyssa, still doesnt know for sure if he wanted her dead. I bet theyre very few people on earth that could put themselves in your shoes, and even understand what youve been through, alyssa. You know, ive been through a lot. But nothing compared to what rachaels family has been through. I dont think my pain is comparable to what her daughters and sons have been through. I dont. Ever since the day in november, 2013, when david stone gave his horrific tale to the cops, there have been intensive searches made of the snake river below the Red Wolf Bridge. Captain dan hally, inlisted multiple agencies including the close cards and volunteers with specialized sonar to help. But the depths of the swift moving snake river, have yet to surrender a body. Is she gone forever . I know were not going to give up. Hopefully we might still find her remains. For the justice system, its case close. But for those rachael left behind you know, theres no truth justice. Doesnt bring her back. Is there a new chapter opening up for you . Its just begun. Because when i found my mom was missing, i fought tooth and nail. So did ashley. Thats what we do. So at this point, it feels like the fight is over. The grieving process for me has just begun. Because theres nothing left to fight for. Thats all for this edition of dateline. Im craig melvin. Thank you for watching. Im craig melvin, and this is dateline. My whole