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MSNBCW Alex July 3, 2024

I just dont know how theyre going to do it. I dont think they know it. Theyt dont. Which is worrisome. Thank you, my friend, for all the breakingy news. And thank you for joining on this continuing night of developments. In the last hour there has been unprecedented upheaval in congress specifically among the republican majority in the house. The partys nominee for Speaker Of The House, congressman Steve Scalise, has Just Announced that he is dropping out as a candidate. I just shared with my colleagues im dropping out as a candidate for speaker designee. If you look over the last few weeks and where where our conference is, theres still work to be done. Well have much more on that story in just a bit, but first we continue our coverage with the israelhamas war about to enter its seventh day of fighting. The number of dead has reached 2,800 people. Among that2, number israel repos at least 1,300 israeli lives lost including over 200 soldiers. And the Palestinian Health authority reports more than 1,500 palestinians have been lost. The number of injured israelis is more than 3,300, and the numbers of Injured Palestinians is more than 6,000. The number killed in the conflict is now 27. Secretary blinken also met with the newly formed unity government of Prime Minister netanyahu, and he reaffirmed u. S. Support for israel. You may be Strong Enough on your own to defend yourself, but as long as america exists, you will never ever have to. We will always be there by your side. But in those same remarks Secretary Blinken also issued a note of caution for israel. Its so important to take every possible precaution to avoid harming civilians, and thats why we mourn the loss of every innocent life, civilians of every faith, every nationality who have been ve killed. Right now the b Israeli Military is amassing troops and tanks along the gaza border preparing for a possible Ground Invasion. Nbc news Richard Engel is on that border and is reporting from there this evening. Israels military is amassing tanks and troops along the border with gaza. Its Chief Of Staff saying now it is time for war and that the head of hamas and all those who operate under him deserve to die. This 22yearold lives in gaza. The media is rarely covering any news because of the situation. Theres no electricity, no connection. Theyre bombing everywhere. Nowhere is safe. 2 Million People live inside gaza without the freedom to move beyond its borders. Half of those people are children, and israel has blocked access to food, electricity, and water. And to that warning of a severe shortage of potable water. The u. N. Also reports 300,000 people in gaza have been displaced as israeli air strikes continue to destroy entire neighborhoods and overwhelm gazas emergency services. Sky news john parks filed this report from one of the hospitals, and just a warning here some of what youre about to see is graphic and involves children. Reporter this is the territorys Central Hospital where theyve treated nearly 5,000tr patients in the past fo days. This 10yearold girl was hit by shrapnel from a blast, the brother lies under a tent on the hospital floor port. They ran out of beds days ago. The ferocity of the attacks, the number of patients, the children that aref brought in e brought in with Crush Injuries from crashed buildings or shrapnel or debris. There needs to stop from the bombing or a humanitarian corridor. That hospitalum expects It Wl Run Out of fuel in less than three days. In the meantime hopes for some kind of humanitarian corridor remain distant at best. Today the president of egypt, gazas best hope for that corridor said that palestinians must stay steadfast and remain on their land. Joining me now is ali velshi, msnbc Chief Correspondent Reporting from ashkelon israel near the gaza border. What is the latest as it concerns the situation on the ground there. Reporter as you were introducing the show were hearing more bombing in gaza. Its 2 1 2 miles in that direction. But youre hearing that bombing, and those aret bombs or missil that aircraft and vessels up in the mediterranean. Here there are rockets and mortars. And rockets can go a little farther. Mortars can go about 5 miles. So something has hit here. You can tell from the shape of this crater, it came in over here, this is the Point Of Impact and what it does is it breaks up the ground and pieces of the ground becomes shrapnel. This whole building, everythings been wiped out. There areev holes all over it, e windows are gone, all the ceilings are gone. If it were bullets, you might think they are bullets, but it looks like that. Take a look at this. Youre sitting in this office, it goes through the window, thats obvious, but it went through the wall behind it as well. It goes through all these types of things, and these were places people are in. Right now this place is entirely deserted. No one is here. Take a look at this car. From the front it looks like bullet holes, but its not. This is the shrapnel that came from that very crater. You can look inside this car. If youve been sitting in a car, driving when a mortar or rocket hits you, this is what happens. It destroys everything around you. So this is one example. Obviously we saw the ferocity and the massacre that happened at the Nova Festival where we saw the things that happened on the kibbutz, the inperson savagery, but there were 2,100 rockets fired, rockets and missiles and mortars and this is the damage done all across here, bout mostly in southern israel you see places that look like this. T ali, are you sensing there a lot of widespread expectation the Ground Invasion is going to begin anytime soon . What can you tell us about the incursions youre seeing from at least the airspace as it concerns israel to gaza . Reporter yeah, so, yes. It sounds like and richard has been reporting hes closer to the border than i am, hes be reporting theyve Got B Everythg they need inin position to go io gaza. What theyre waiting on at the moment is the hostage situation. Theyre 150 hostages israel believes has been taken by hamas. Theyre using the word taken because they dont entirely know where they are or what condition theyre in. About a hundred families will probably get an update on that shortly, have been informed by the government can confirm their loved ones have been taken. For thosees families theyre worried the minute they cross into gaza their leverage is gone. Their value has expired. They want israel to concentrate on a negotiated agreement, some way to get those people out as many as they can and then deal with hamas, and do whatever what is necessary to do for the moment. Much of israel is anxiously awaiting this Ground Incursion to root out whatever is going on in gaza, the Hostage Families are very, very worried about that and theyre pleading with the government tond sigh do mor whatever youre doing, do more. The Secretary Of State Antony Blinken was here today. Tomorrow hes going to doja, qatar, where hes going to figure out whether they can help negotiate a humanitarian corridor or hostage release, something of that nature. Because youve got the people of gaza who are stuck there, as you said 300,000 who dont have homes, the water is running out and food is running out and the hostage situation. A lot to deal with on day six. Ali velshi, msnbcs chief correspondent, thank you so much, rrali. Please staymu safe. We appreciate you. Now i want to turn to greg calstrom, a middle east columnist who joins us from dubai. The statistic here that israel has dropped 6,000 bombs. Beyond the end game of the complete and utterly leveling of gaza, what do you interpret as israels strategy, its broader intentions in that kind of initial show of force . I think israel has thrown out of some of the rules it has around restraints over the past week. I p mean, i think the reaction this, Bothk The Public Reactio and the political reaction, israel is of course one of shock and anger after the attack saturday. Andat weve heard some incredib harsh and sometimes dehumanizing rhetoric coming out of the Israeli Government. I think the approach in gaza has been in past conflicts in 2014 and 2008, there have been some restrictions or some safe guards around the Israeli Military has used air power. I think they have thrown those out of the window and they have been much more willing to use military force. I wonder if you could talk a little bit of the sort of inverse of that, which is hamas and its reaction to i know you termed on pod save the world, a podcast im a big fan of, the sort of catastrophic success of this mission. To some degree the initial reports were brutalizing enough, but the staggering brutality that has been revealed in the days since is unlike anything weve seen from anyone with maybe the exception of isis. Doex you think hamas ultimately believed it would be this i guess for lack of a better term, successfultt in this kind of mission . Ill say first no one knows for sure. This k seems like it was planne by a handful of senior hamas leaders in gaza, none of whom have n given interviews and tald about it. I have heard over the past week talking to both israelis and talking to palestinians including members of hamas a belief on both sides that, yes, this may have been to use the term a catastrophic success, something that went much further than hamas expected it to, that there was a strategy to carry out an attack on israel, but no one expected it would go this far, that no one expected that the defenses on the israeli side would fall as quickly as they did. We heard yesterday speaking with a hamas official in gaza who said more or less that, who said there was no expectation the israeli army would be caught as unaware as it was. There was noas expectation that hundreds of militants would be able to streamta across the borr fence essentially uncontested. And people in hamas are now trying to suggest hamas went across and attacked Israeli Military acposts, and then othe people in gaza streamed across afterwards and carried out some of these atrocities. I think thats trying to shift blame. I think thats trying to come up with an excuse here, but that is what were hearing from people in hamas and also some israeli observers. What do you think the effect of that is in terms of how this playst regionally especially ab countries . The idea that at once israels overwhelming response here at the leveling of gaza would seem toga sort of stir support for t palestinian cause, at the same time the brutality, the horror of these b videos that the worl is seeing in terms of what these Hamas Terrorists did to the civilian population in israel would seem to counteract that. What do you think is sort ofun e net result ofo all of this in terms of potential alliances that israel was building with, say, saudi arabia . I think its a bit of a different reaction, and its very hard to say how 300 Million People across more than a dozene arab countries feel about something, but its a different reaction than i remember in 2014, for example, during that war. There certainlye, has been an outpouring of sympathy for the palestinians, and i think that willi grow as we see increasin scenes of devastation in gaza, but therein also has been a Goo Deal Ofso horror in the region these atrocities that were carried out inro israel. And i think for governments in the middle east, thats put a lot of them in what feels like a very difficult position. So saudi arabia, for example, which has been talking throughout the year about a possible Normalization Deal with israel, about establishing diplomatic ties with israel, the saudi governments initially came out with what seemed like quite a harsh statement essentially Blamingha Israel for what happed on saturday, blaming the Israeli Occupation and violations towards palestinians for the massacre we sawle on saturday. The saudis will tell you privately that they dont think that this derails these normalization efforts, that they would still like toal move ahea but they feel like they are caught between on the one hand needing to show support for the palestinians, on the other hand, many governments in the region, many countries in the region not supporters ofe hamas privately would not be happy if there was would not be unhappy if there was some kind of political change in gaza. To talk about the politics i think domestically in israel, what netanyahu has formed this unity government. It is fragile. There is already fracturing there, ander i wonder, you know the latest polling shows that 56 , a very slim majority of israelis believe that Netanyahu Mustie resign at the end of the war. I wonder how you think this campaign of extensive bombing and a potential Ground Invasion factors into all of that in his political future. I think this unity government No Matter What, it will be shortlived. Its meant to be there only for the duration of the war, and i think its quite likely israel will head to a Snap Election after the war is over. I think for netanyahu for his political future, some of that will depend on thetu outcome of the war, whether israel has built a Successful Campaign or whether israelis feel it is something that dragged on, didnt achieve its goals, cost a significant number of lives of israeli soldiers, so that peels of it will have to wait and see. And i think the other thing going to happen in the weeks and months ahead is that netanyahu is going to try and shift blame for the profound Security Failure on saturday. Hes going to want to put that blame on the heads of the military, the heads of the security services, which is something hes always done throughout his political career. Hes shifted blame to the military and to the defense establishment. I dont think israelis will accept that argument this time. I think theyre going to hold netanyahu responsible, and hes someone throughout his career has made his pitch to security, on his handling of security. Now hes presided over the greatest Security Failure in israels history. Neveris count him out. Hes a constant political survivor, but i think its very difficult to imagine him surviving this. Thanks so much, gregg, for staying up late. Your thoughts are invaluable here as we work through just an unbelievable moment in a global conflict. Thank you. When we come back, we will turn to the other major story breaking this evening, the catastrophic dysfunction of the House Republican conference, which haspu just lost its candidate for Speaker Of The House. Well have more on that coming up next. House. Well have more on that coming up next. man mm, hey, honey. Looks like my todo list grew. Paint the bathroom, give baxter a bath, get life insurance, hm. I have a few minutes. I can do that now. Oh, that fast . Remember that Colonial Penn ad . 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