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MSNBCW Symone July 3, 2024

It is four pm in new york, and 11 pm in israel and gaza. Im Simone Sanders townsend. Joined by a mid meridian, and the great Reverend Al Sharpton. This is continued coverage of the israelhamas war. Israeli Defense Forces are preparing a significant Ground Operation in gaza, describing it as, quote, integrated and coordinated attack from, air sea, and land. Israeli soldiers continue to mess along but as Benjamin Netanyahu visited the entropy today, telling them to, the next stage is coming. Thousands of people in Northern Gaza are navigating an active war zone as theyramble to evacuate to the south. On friday, israel warned civilians north of za the gaza city is now a battlefield. They told him to evacuate their homes. Thata reon home to 1. 1 Million People. Hamas instructed gazans to ignore the directive. 70 people and one convoy, obeying their order to leave were killed after him raley airstrike and convoy of evacuees. Most of them women and children. I do want to warn you that some of the video we are about to be showing is extremely graphic. We have video of that strike, and it contains lifeless bodies. Take a look, and again, these images are extremely graphic. [sirens] israels cut off access to food, water, and fuel in the gaza strip. Hospitals are overrun, and people in gaza say that theyve got nowhere to go. Meanwhile, hundreds of american citizens are at the gaza border with egypt after a tentative agreement with egypt and israel to allow them to cross into northern egypt. Nbc News Reporters on the ground say that they have yet to see any crossings. Its impossible to overstate the humanitarian crisis here. And the precarious situations that civilians, israelis and palestinians now face because of this war. In an appearance with the qatari Prime Minister and minister of foreign affairs, Secretary Of State Antony Blinken had this to say. Our focus now is on helping to create safe zones. Were doing that with the international organizations, and were doing that engaging with israel. We are working with other countries to that end. Thats where the focus is. It has just been one week since Hamas Terrorists launched an unprecedented attack on israel, killing and kidnapping civilians in service members. According to our latest numbers, at least 1300 people in in gaza, at least 2100 were killed. 27 american citizens have been killed. 14 of them are still unaccounted for. President biden spoke to the families of those missing americans, reiterating his commitment to do Everything Possible in order to bring them back. Joining us now on the ground, at the israel gaza border, alison barber. Alison, i know youve been out there all day. What are you seeing and hearing right now . Do you know anything about the Border Crossings . The border with gaza in egypt. With what weve been hearing in the last ten minutes or so, weve heard for booms and then saw the skyline, the direction, gaza is back this way lighting up as things are fired, rockets from the israeli side and into gaza. The last two hours, we have heard jess over in the area. Overhead periodically. We have heard Artillery Bombardments inside of gaza. We have seen rockets flying from israel and into the direction of gaza. In terms of the crossing with egypt, the rafah crossing, and whether or not it is open. The answer is still no, it is not. That is the only option really right now in or out of gaza for civilians, and also for humanitarian aid. The humanitarian aid has not been inside of gaza in a week now. The other Border Crossing that possibly people could be using would be the but that goes into israeli territory. It is not open. The idf claims that is because hamas militants struck it because thats when they launched their air attack on saturday. The rafah Border Crossing, the u. S. State department as told americans to get close to it, because they say that if it opens, it will likely be short notice, and likely will not be open for very long. Egypt has said that israeli air strikes landed and damaged that crossing on tuesday. It has been fully interoperable since then. Remember, the situation in gaza, that Border Crossing has never truly been open. In order for people or goods to travel through, it there has to be specific permissions froms palestinians from the palestinian side, from officials on that side of the crossing, and also from the egyptian side of things. We have this situation right now where 1. 1 million peop in Northern Gaza have been told to evacuate south. Its not easy to evacuate south, first of all. If they wanted to then cross through the border into egypt, or try to get into israeli territories, there are literally no options for them right now. The u. N. Says that gaza has run out of water. When were talking about people moving south, you touched on the fact there were three convoys carrying people that were targeted as they moved south. There is also a situation right now where they have run out of fuel. The sole Power Station there, it does not have fuel. If people are trying to get into their cars to leave, that option is gone. Our producer inside of gaza said that 35,000 people are sheltering in the largest hospital in gaza city right now. Things are likely only going to get worse for those civilians. Simone, watching in this area, a massive amount of military equipment, tanks, troops, idf troops all moving in the direction of gaza. There are no civilians in this area at all. Israel has evacuated just north of the border. They have evacuated all of these communities. Four palestinians inside of gaza, for civilians, they do not have anywhere to go. A lot of them are afraid that if they were to leave, it would be a situation like what they happened in the 1940s, what they referred to as the which they are not able to come back to their homes. Simone . Were going to be speaking with a spokesperson from the idf in this hour. Alison barber, live for us at the israel gaza border. Thank, you stay safe. More about the next phase of israels military operation, the former Deputy Commander of the european command, and now an msnbc military analyst. General, i want to start with all of these forces amassing on the border between gaza and israel. We also know from nbc reporting, from our colleagues earlier this week, israel, the idea forces have alreadygone into the country. Is this new phase a distinction without a difference . No, it is not. What we saw initially, we saw what is called saving the operations. That is part of the initial phase of operations, where you can identify strategic targets such as communications with centers from hamas. Hamas leadership, ammunition depots, those complexes. What you want to do is break those things down to prevent hamas ability to communicate, hamas ability to provide ammunition to their troops. Hamas ability to move around. Now what you are seeing in my assessment is the initial phase of the ground war starting to happen. You have special Operating Forces that are also on the ground inside of gaza, seeking the intelligence for two things. Number, when the hostages. Number two, being able to provide those locations back to the Ground Forces that will be conducting those initial assaults. What youre seeing at home on tv right now is called the assault positions. Those Ground Forces prepare on their own border to conduct that a sold. General, it is eamonn here. I want to ask you something that you know very well based on your experience during the iraq war. There is always a difference between the decision to destroy an organization. What happens the day after when gaza is under the complete control militarily of israel. What does that look like for them to actually control the territory that would possibly include up to 2 Million People. Number two, in the long run, you might defeat hamas as an organization. How do you defeat it as an ideology . We keep hearing people say that we dont want to go back to the status quo. The status quo would also mean a change for palestinians. What does that look like for you, sir . You hit it there. As you know, i lead the attack to seize back, and once we seize back, we were not prepared for the aftermath. The aftermath will be the same in the case of the israelis here. Every single thing that is in that hundred and 40 square kilometers excuse me, miles. After the Israeli Forces seize it, they will have done the school systems, the hospitals, the 2 Million People that are inside of that strip. All of those people that are suffering, the humanitarian aid. The government, on and on. That is going to be a huge undertaking. If folks focus on the actual attack, which in my, view will take some time, but the aftermath being able to eradicate as netanyahu said, that is going to take longer. In my view, it is going to be an extremely difficult task. Theyve tried it before, and they failed at it. Well see what happens this time. General, when we hear of convoys being attacked, and women and children killed, and there are convoys trying to do what was asked of them, are there any things that we can see which have been put in place to protect that not being repeated over and over again . We are talking about people that were not in hamas, trying to deal with life as they lived, now being worked out. In the middle of all of this, before we get to the aftermath, how do we protect innocent civilians in gaza . Heres the dilemma. 2 Million People, as we talked, about the third most dense location in the world. I know the Israeli Forces, many of them are my friends. They are professional, of course. At the end of the day, just like i have the experience when i have gone into the back. There is going to be Collateral Damage. When you fight in cities, there is no doubt about it. And so when you try your best to avoid Collateral Damage. Oftentimes, that Collateral Damage will come from the enemies cascades, where you try your best to use a certain munition to destroy a particular location. There are secondhand exposures from it. Or you tried your best to use a particular ammunition, and it fell short, it fell shorter on the convoy. You can have these incidents, its sad, stuff like this happens, but when you fight in an urban battle, you cannot prevent stuff like this from happening. Former Lieutenant General stephen twitty, thank you very much for being with us today, sir. Stay with us in this Msnbc Special Coverage of the Israel Hamas War. Its just getting started. That war is watching israel and the gaza strip. Theyre waiting to see when israels, promised Sea Air Atlanta Tech will begin. And were talking with Israeli Defense for a spokesperson, going to get into all of the coming hours could look like on the ground. And later, a descendant of Holocaust Survivors joins us to talk about the ten Family Members missing after hamass brutal assault on israel. How she is coping with unimaginable trauma. Dont go away, you are watching msnbc. In msnbc. There are some things that go better. Together. Like your workplace benefits. And retirement savings. With voya, considering all your financial choices together. Can help you be better prepared for unexpected events. Voya. Well planned. Well invested. Well protected. [ ] theres a way to cut your dishwashing time by 50 . 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Continuing coverage of the israelhamas war. Just one week after hamas attacked. Thousands have been killed in israel and in gaza, and all indications are that israeli, air sea and Land Offensive Picking at anytime. My colleagues, the Reverend Al Sharpton and Ayman Mohyeldin are here with me. Right now palestinians because of struggling to flee from areas targeted by the Israeli Military. Water and medical supplies are running low. Israel is calling for casarez advance, 1. 1 million of them to move south, while hamas has urged people to stay in their homes. No, palestinians who would like to leave dont necessarily have the ability to do so. Joining me now is an Israeli Palestinian Affairs Expert who has family in the region. Hes also the author of the book, the words of my father, love and pain in palestine. Its great to speak to you, i know this is a very difficult time for you. I know if also get involved with your family, can you tell us a little bit about what you are hearing from the people are able to speak to in terms of the conditions and their own experience at the moment . Extremely dire. Extremely terrifying and scary for people. There are people calling for transportation there are people calling me to try to get your kids, try to get on any list human corridor. People told me Finding Houston for the next two nights. My mom and my brother, about 40 people fled from the north to the south. The situation is dire. And this is coming from people whove lived through dire situations many many times before. Yousef, its symone. Im wondering, how are people who cant Hit Self Coping . We are our th sltering and what is their plan over the next 24 hours . They shelter on the streets. The shelter at the beach. They shelter under the floor, at schools, but hospitals. But people who went to the beach, people who started to walk on foot are also targeted because they want people to move away as quickly as possible. I dont know how human beings can run to make this operation pork, more possible. Our chest, there is a lot of confusion. A lot of fear. And the people dont have many options. Not even to simply do the part of evacuating their homes and their areas under attack. Yousef, l sharpton. When you wrote your book about your father, and your family there in gaza, do you feel the world understands that many in gaza are not part of hamas . Many of them dont even sympathize with hamas . And that they are being considered just Collateral Damage for whatever will happen . And the feeling that your family a

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