The multiple red flags. Keep an eye on him. Hes got a firearm on him. He is armed with more than one handgun. An ar15 with him. A shotgun. To see a cold blood is not really what captured there and that driveway. Josh and amber were there. I was like oh my god no. Sounds like it was premeditated. They had no idea it was coming their way. There were experiences in the door. They blocked the door. It sounds like a commando operation. Straight out of the military. It still feels like. I blame myself for everything. The story about young couples and their children, their tangled relationships is so disturbing you might question what kind of creatures where you humans are. Youve been forewarned. We have a lot of strange cases in the course of day one. But this one has a chilliness to it that is just unmatched. Its something you dont usually hear about. The trip into the darkness actually begins on a sunny fall day. October 27th, 2018. And the sleepy town of sodus, and way Upstate New York. Tiffany fare was headed out to the grocery when her two years old got fussy about what they were eating. We went to the kitchen to grab gummy bears. Some neighbor talking with a gentleman outside. Didnt think any of it thing of it. Her neighbor josh, leaving against his truck seemed in deep conversation with someone she did not recognize. Joshs girlfriend, amber, pulled into the driveway. Tiffany reach for the gummy bears. And thats what he heard it. A gunshot. I turned back out my kitchen wendell and i say josh grabbed his chest. And amber at that point had the g. A. R. In reverse. And right as she was going past the shooter, he turned and shot a right in the head. Tiffany threw herself on top of her child, carl to her front door and bolted the lock. More shots followed. Pop pop pop. Too many to count. Shots just kept ringing out. It was crazy. She called 911. As it turned out, the County Surgeon Sheriff Matt Car was supervising just a few hours away. He was dispatched to the scene. Immediately, i had people coming at me. And these are neighbors. These are not . At that time, im hoping their neighbors. Im not really sure who people are. It took the sergeant a moments to get his bearings. But for him, those images would be seared in forever. There was the homeowner, the victim, josh. Half under the truck where he tried to take cover. He had been shot multiple times. Amber, his girlfriend, was dead, draped over the Center Console of her car. Which had come to rest in the driveway across the street. This is a gruesome thing youve come upon . Absolutely. You have two dead and a pretty quiet neighborhood. Absolutely. One of the worst things ive ever seen. As the sergeant approached car, he found something as unexpected as it was cruel. Poised in a car seat, right behind the murder mom was a child. Very much alive. Josh and embers four year old son. I can honestly say i still see the child in the backseat, rubbing his fourpiece chicken mcnuggets. I can see it vividly. Academy in the streets dont really prepare you for that kind of a . Mitch know it does. Not to sergeant did the best to comfort the boy as he waited for his fellow officers to respond. The neighbors, witnesses now, were telling the officers that they had seen the shooter. Black sweatshirt, green hat. Stripping away through backyards. Police officer, anyone in there. Come out now. Open up. A manhunt was underway for an apparently, stone cold killer. Robert was aside as the lead detective on the case. We had no idea, immediately, where that person had gone. We had a general direction. When the calls first coming out and i parts of the operation was to shut down the school, which was nearby. So the Central School district was immediately put into lockdown. So youre hoping this is all there is. You dont want it but who knows . Right. Do you look down the neighborhood . Is that possible . We had made some phone calls to the neighborhood, to reverse 911. Or and they revel arent. And neighborhood calls are made to the prize people, to shelter in their homes. Here comes the canine. Anybody inside should be coming out. You will get a bit. Canines who are brought in for the street to street search. Police set up ahead of qatar. We were checking houses, barnes, sheds. Houses that people alerted us to. They wanted them checked. You didnt see anyone run through here at all . In the command center, early on. What was the theory that they had here . We thought we had still somebody contained inside the perimeter as it was expanded. You thought the shooter was on the ground there . Yes. Maybe hold up in a building or a car. Or outbuilding. Something like that. Anybody running through here . Meanwhile, news of the shooting was already out there on social media. Joshs sister, nicole, first learned about it on facebook. Her spirits slumped when she saw the name of the street where it happened. I called 911 and said, thats near my brothers house and the operators said, well what your brothers name . She said the josh. But she said that i have no information frio, but a couple get a hold of. You know good . Now my head sank. The police did call, but they reach joshs parents first. His mom, bob narwhals. She goes, theres been a shooting and it involves your son. I think she said he passed away or something. And i just broke down. I kept saying no, not my josh. Cant be my josh what about amber . And she said, she is gone too. And i was like, oh my god no and i lost it. She then had to tell her or other children. Joshs two brothers, and his younger sister amanda. My mom was calling me. And instantly i knew something was not right. Just from her cry. It was almost like a scream. And i kept yelling at her, mom, what . What . And she was like josh, it was josh. And she was like, amber too. Josh an amber. They are dead. So, i wanted to do something. I tried to leave, iran out of the house. I want to go save them. But i cant. As josh and embers families wrestled with grief, the town of sodus punk are down. Somewhere out there was a killer, still on the loose. But where . Coming up did you guys see anything at all . The search was urgent. The fear, instant. Why did this killer target josh and amber . I had no clue whatsoever. It didnt appear to be a Home Invasion gone on or anything like that . No. No. But it sounded like it was premeditated. And later. What happened . The midnight right in the middle of nowhere. That will break the case wide open. What the hell are you doing here . Theres something going on. And it just did not fit right. When dateline continues diabetes can serve up a lot of questions, like, what is your glucose . And can you have more carbs . Before you decide. With the freestyle libre 2 system know your Glucose Level and where its headed. No fingersticks needed. Manage your diabetes with more confidence. 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Ambers parents, christened marcia, had not only lost their daughter. But were now worried about. Just bruner. Their grandson who had witnessed the shooting. Obviously the first thing is where is my grandson . Where was he . Because he knew the time. Around 2 00 we knew that was when she would be getting home with him from school. You know, they told us that he was in the backseat of the car. But he was okay. Okay physically but presumably in shock. And otherwise unable to shed light on the crime. Four year old josh junior had been diagnosed with autism in his nonverbal. Hes right in the backseat in his kid seat right . Yes. Hes done everything we know he did. Theres a gun coming through the window. See anything at all . As the manhunt continued in sodas, they puzzled over the killings. They could not figure out who would want to harm josh and the innocent amber. I had no clue whatsoever. You know thoughts. No suspicions. I was completely clueless. It didnt appear to be a Home Invasion gone wrong or anything like that . Now. No. But it sounded like it was premeditated. From the little bits and pieces that we could gather for the first couple of days. 24 year old amber, with her love of gardening, and professional bakery job. Seemed an unlikely target. She was as such a sweet old soul. She was kind, she was easy to get along with. Everyone liked her. Joshs parents, jane and barb. Thought the same thing about their son. Josh had no enemies that they knew of. His family says that he was just a hardworking guy with a player for cooking. He picked up a few things at his dads restaurant growing up. We brought him under our wing and he became a righthand man. And he was around the kitchen by the end of things . He was great. In fact, josh had been putting a nice life together for himself. And her business was taking off. And just that week, he told his mom that he and amber were thinking about making it official. He says yeah, were thinking about finally getting their. And im like joshua . They were doing pretty well there. Wonderful. Brought a new house. Getting their lives started. He had a long Care Business that he was starting up. They were on their own. Everything is going . Up everything is going up. Josh and amber were especially devoted parents to. His mom remembers with affection, the lighthearted way that he had told her that josh junior was on the way. I got up to make my coffee. Like i always do. And theres an envelope right in front of my coffee. And it says mom, dad. So i take it down, and i open it up and there is an Ultrasound Picture and a baby bib and some, boys are from heaven. Or something. And i went, what . Major grandson . Yeah. Yeah. So i texted him, do you have something to tell me . Maybe it came with some difficulties. Wouldve been a challenge for some parents. He was probably a year and a half, two years old before we realized. He was on the spectrum. Artistic . Yeah. How did they deal with . It made the doubt very well. I didnt know how my brother would react to having a special needs. It didnt faze him. He is a normal kid to him. An amber was wonderful with him. Carefree with him. He could have a fifth, and she would just giggle and go about her business like it didnt upset her or anything. But josh junior wasnt the only child in their lives. Josh and amber were also loving parents to two children from joshs previous relationship. Because of the agreement had given josh an amber the summer months to care for them. Did it matter to your sister that the new boyfriend, josh, came with kids already . That he had a long term relationship . No. Amber always loved kids. She did fantastic with mike heads. And she wore it well. Joshs ex girlfriend, and mother to the children. Is a woman named charlene childers. She gave amber the stamp of approval for being such a Loving Second mom. Were you okay with her being around your children . Yeah. I was actually pretty, i was fined with amber being around my kids because she took them in as, they were her own. And, she loved my children. Charlene lived in texas, some 1600 miles away. How do you find out . I got home from work on monday the 22nd of october. And i start looking at facebook, and i saw the News Articles of shootings in sodus. She wanted news of her children. In that moment, they were in new york with josh and amber. Luckily, they were in school. Out of harms way. She called joshs mom. Charles leans on the phone . Yeah. She called me. She said she heard. And, i just told her. Somebody killed Josh Charlene hit the road from texas, as the detective was trying to get a handle on the crime scene. He was shocked by the sheer awfulness of it. With a wounded, but still alive charge have to witness his girlfriends execution. So even though joshs shot. He is aware that his girlfriend is in peril here . Yes. Probably seize her get shot . Yes he does. I had witness accounts tell us he was yelling for her. And then multiple shots as he tries to crowd recover under vehicle and doesnt make . It correct. This is a horrible crime . Yes. It was perhaps the one of the worst ive ever seen. When you say cold blood, it doesnt really capture what happened in their driveway . Now. From everything the detective was saying, it was a very personal crime. There was several casings on the ground that told us that whoever wanted him dead was to make sure there was no chance that he was going to win. Josh had been shot ten times. A message killing, but one delivered by home . Coming up. We were afraid for our families. We dont know the reason. We dont know who did this. A mysterious figure. Theres a couple of different videos of a person, matching the description of what the witnesses had seen. Walking down the sidewalk towards josh and ambers home. A mask on the ground. 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