Coconspirators in georgia might be the next. To take a Plea Deal Intern on donald trump. Im ayman mohyeldin, lets get started. Tonight, new developments on the israelhamas war, which is now in its 16day. A new aid convoy of 14 trucks entered the gaza strip through the rafah Border Crossing with egypt today. According to the United Nations, that is. It is the second batch of relief to enter gaza this weekend. 20 trucks of medicine, food, water, came throe reon yesterday. This only offers, of course, a small sliver of relief to the needed of more than 2 millio people in the gaza strip. According to palestinian vil Society Groups before the October 7th Attack, about 500 trucks were entering gaza daily. President biden spoke of Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu earlier today, affirming that there will be a continued flow of assistance into the region. The war is already spreading outside of gaza. Israelayit has launched an underground compound at a mosque in the occupied west bank, containing the military described as a, quote, terror cell. Palestinian officials report, at least two op were killed. Three others injured. Earlier Toda Pentagon said that the u. S. Is increa its Military Presence in the region. In order to help defend israel if necessary, deter iran and its proxy forces fm entering the war, and protecting u. S. Forces that are already stationed across the region. Meanwhile, families continue to suffer through the immense loss. Nearly 5000 palestinians have been killed by israeli airstrikes. Nearly 16,000 are wounded. 70 of the victims are children and women and elderly. In israel, 1400 israelis were killed by hamas militants, and over 5000 have been injured. Hamas is Still Holding at least 210 people hostage. Joining me now, live from tel aviv, msnbc correspondent, hello gorani. Alex, great to see you, i want to get your thoughts on the thoughts that are getting. On on the ground in israel. As we take a look at whats happening behind the scenes. Through the release of more hostages the Military Posthumous Taking place across the u. S. What is the sentiment there on the ground towards the Prime Minister. As we see continued air strikes in this development of an airstrike in the occupied west bank town of jenin. Sure, we were just looking at recent polling, though its a pretty small scale survey. 80 of israelis according to a poll published in the jerusalem post, say that netanyahu must take responsibility for the October 7th Attack that it was a failure of intelligence it was a failure of leadership. That being said, there is another survey that indicates that a crushing majority of israeli jews and its important to distinguish between israeli jews and the one fifth of the Israeli Arab Population 90 support a Military Operation in gaza as we see images coming from inside gaza of widespread destruction. In civilian suffering. You have really a majority of people on the one hand. Criticizing netanyahu, already unpopular before the attack of october 7th. Because of the judicial reforms that he was trying to impose and the Corruption Cases that he has been facing over the last several years. Theres tremendous unity in this country around the idea that there should be a vigorous Military Response to the hamas attacks. There was a man that just approached us today. Because he knew we were journalists. He essentially confirmed this. Anecdotally. These poll numbers. That many israelis, he says, believe that netanyahu must go. What the israeli war cabinet is preparing to do in gaza has widespread support. Because they think that eradicating hamas, you know, whatever the cost, in a sense, is something the country needs to do. A man . Hello gorani, live for us in tel aviv, this evening, ali, thank you as always for starting us off. Joining me now, martin fletcher, former nbc correspondent, and bureau chief in tel aviv. Two of his Family Members. And his daughter will be released by hamas on friday. Its the first time im seeing you, i saw you on the night before you found out that your relatives were kidnapped and held by hamas. How are you feeling . How is the family doing . Well, im feeling good. And the family is relieved about judith and natalie, of course. But at the moment, theyre sitting shiva. Thats the israeli week of mourning. Two other members of the family were killed. Actually, theres eight more members of the family still held hostage in gaza. Thats the story for many families. Its a small community, many members from each family have been taken. Given that part of, it theres so many families who are suffering as a result of the losses in the murder, but also that have loved ones held inside of gaza. What is the sentiment, just anecdotally, among your family, about this ongoing operation. What should the priority be, in terms of the Israeli Government actions inside gaza . Securing the hostages, or destroying hamas . Some believe its incompatible, given what the military is doing right now. You know, most people in israel are in the army. Many, many members of my family have been in the army. They take the pragmatic approach. First of all, theyve all got children have gone to fight. So, theres. That look, priorities. Everybodys personal priorities save the hostages. Everybodys bigger priorities, exactly what we just heard, hamas needs to be defeated and destroyed. Thats the feeling among the people. They know that, in launching a ground invasion, the lives of the hostages are gonna come second to the military option. The point about destroying or defeating hamas, i want to get your thoughts as a journalist, ive seen clips of you on our network talking as far back as early 2000s. Even before my time in the region. Saying that israel went after hamas, tried to destroy hamas. They certainly made that objective over the years. That policy has not clearly worked. Is this policy, is this time going to be different . As a reporter, have you seen anything that makes you believe what israel is doing . Or is capable of doing will be different . I think they could destroy hamas. Israel is using a small percentage of its power right now in gaza. Even though it looks horrendous, its a small part of israels power. The real question is, did Israel Everly want to destroy hamas . You and i, in the past weve been. Weve been having the same conversation with several, almost a decade, and each, time is really Prime Minister, usually netanyahu, were gonna destroy hamas. Were gonna kill the. Were gonna change this. They never do. Then the question, politically, is that really netanyahu strategy . Does he want to keep a weekend hamas in power. In order to balance the palestinians in the west bank. So we can always say, we have no peace. We dont really know what israels endgame is. Now, because of this horrific, ferocious attack by the hamas terrorist in israel now, israels backing netanyahu militarily, politically, hes in a bind. Weve heard israeli Officials Say we will turn to the status quo. We will never go back to october 6th of 2023, from a security posturing, from allowing hamas to operate in the gaza strip. The second part of the question is, what does that mean for the palestinians . Israel will not return to the status quo, do we have, have you seen, any clear answer from the Israeli Government, as to what a posthamas gaza looks like . What is postpalestinian Political Landscape without hamas look like . If youre not gonna go back to the status quo, from the israeli side, does that mean youll be freeing the gaza strip . Will the gaza strip be completely free for people to do and operate and live freely the way that they want . A, im sure italy doesnt know exactly what the post Gaza Situation will look like. Its a very difficult situation. Those are the questions. What takes hamass place . Who governs the people . How do you look after the people . You know, if you ask what would hamas, What Would Gaza be like without hamas . Well, theres an answer. The west bank. Hamas support in the west bank. Its not run by hamas. Its one by the palestinian authority. Rather poorly, but its run by them. There is an example of what the west, palestinian life could be like without hamas. It is in the west bank. Its not great, but theres much more employment. Many more jobs. A lot more hope. Even though were seeing a lot of Outpouring Support for hamas now. After all, theyre fighting, theyre gonna support them. We see in the west bank, a lot more settlements, a lot more israeli presence. And a very highly corrupt palestinian authority. I cant imagine that is the scenario that israel wants. Certainly, from his Security Point of view, its pacified. Thats not a long Term Solution in gaza. This is the problem. Israel wants to pacify palestinian population. Instead of dealing with the real issue for the future. How are we gonna make peace . The israeli position is always theres no one to talk to. Because hamas wants to destroy us. Thats what i just mentioned. A sort of a hamas in power gives israel the opportunity to say theres no need to talk to. We have to, when i say we, my wife is really, i say we. Israel needs to find a solution for the palestinian issue going forward. The whole world needs to. Let me ask you finally, just this week alone, what weve seen transpire the west bank. Theres been a 60 now palestinians killed. A lot of concern about israeli settlements, and what settlers are doing there, in the occupied west bank. Are we losing sight of how volatile the west bank is, obviously, gaza is a completely different ball game. Are you concerned that ignoring the situation in the west bank, and where it has been trending for the last several years, its going to backfire and explode . Not necessarily. Because the west bank is so tightly linked with israel. More than gaza. Gaza has a fence around it, which israel built to stop the bombers coming into israel. Now, we talk about palestinians in gaza being an open air prison. I personally hate that term. Thats the term thats used. West banks a little bit different. It certainly the same anger, the same frustration, the same rage. Theres also a dependent on israel for employment, in the situation of the settlements, this government is israel is encouraging more settlements in the west bank. That is not helpful for the future. Thats one of the reasons why israel is so divided. Its huge demonstrations, every saturday night. Hundred thousand people in the streets. Demonstrating against the government. Quite extraordinary. For almost a year. I was gonna say, theres i dont envision a way in which Prime Minister netanyahu survives this politically, once the war is over. Of course, the question is, when will that war be over . Martin fletcher, always good to see you in person. Very relieved for your family. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank, you name it. Joining me now, Palestinian American his 12 relatives were tragically killed by an israeli airstrike on a Greek Orthodox church in gaza city on thursday. Thank you so much for making time. I know this is a very difficult time for you and your family. First, tell us a little bit about what youve learned about your extended family, why were they at, or how did they end up at that church, Seeking Refuge . Thank you for having me, ayman. You know, my father was born in gaza. And i have many Family Members in the region including in gaza. They had moved there from their houses to the church of which is the third Oldest Church in the world. A few days before hand to really avoid the bombardments that were happening in and around their home. In the neighborhood of the church was supposed to be a safe haven for them. Many hundreds of Palestinian Christians and muslims gathered in that church. Unfortunately, in such an incredibly important and Historic Place of worship, with the bombardments, it did affect them directly. 12 Family Members were killed in this tragic attack. Im so sorry for a loss. Nader, i think a lot of our viewers were watching, this probably surprised to hear that gaza has a small Palestinian Christian community. I know that you have spent time going there. Just talk to us about what that communities like. What your expenses have been . When you went to gaza. Yeah, i think its important to start with the fact that there is actually the existence of the Palestinian Christian community. Its naturally one of the oldest in the world. Its true, in gaza, we dont even count to 1000. But its a community with protection. More broadly speaking, Christian Palestinians are about 1 Million People worldwide. And listen, they are normal people. There are merchants, they are clergymen, they are business people. And theyve always lived in harmony with either muslim or jewish brethren, in and outside of israel and palestine. So, its an historic community, its reflective of palestinian society. Which is diverse. Whether religiously, culturally, or politically. And a key tenant of this community is coexistence and the prevention of violence. Weve been trying to focus a lot on the Palestinians Inside Gaza. What do you want the world to know you have family, there youve suffered this unspeakable tragedy of losing relatives. What do you want the world to know about what is going on right now on the ground, and what Palestinians Inside Gaza are going through . Palestinian christians are not supporters of hamas, theres always that attempt to link palestinians as we heard earlier. With that brought and brushstroke. Yes, so a couple of things, a man. Number one, going back to your earlier question, some of the memories i have of going to gaza certainly before the blockade and the siege. One of a typical Eastern Mediterranean city, bustling with of each and people with ambition for life. Unfortunately, relative gazans, most gazans, including my family, never had the opportunity to realize their full ambition. There is an underlying issue that we need to think about here hansen. Secondly, there is a story behind the numbers. Just a few examples, two of my cousins, their wives and children were all sheltering at the church. One of his cousins had well the welcome to baby girl. They were robbed of that future. One of my other cousin survived, he lost three of his kids under the rubble. There are real stories behind the numbers that we continue to see in the media and social media. Quite frankly, you know, for us, outside of gaza, there is a feeling of helplessness. We, like the rest of the world are witnessing this Human Tragedy Unravel through social media and on the news and the humanitarian situation on the ground is even more dire than one can imagine. Communication is really tough and very sporadic. We have deep ongoing concerns for the safety of the surviving members of our family there. Quite, frankly for all innocent civilians wherever they are. I pray for your familys safety. I just cant emphasize how important it is to hear that there are stories behind the numbers. I know this is a difficult time. Thank you so much for joining us and sharing the story with us. Thank you. Thank you for having me, on a. Men ahead, we will switch from politics overseas to politics at home. Mystic politics and how republicans might be ruining their 2024 chances as we enter week three without a house speak. K. Every day, more dog people, and more vets are deciding its time for a fresh approach to pet food. Theyre quitting the kibble. And kicking the cans. 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