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MSNBCW Jose July 2, 2024

See you back here on monday. Jose diazbalart picks up our coverage right now. Good morning. It is 11 00 a. M. Eastern, 8 00 a. M. Pacific, im jose diazbalart. Right now, fear and mourning in lewiston, maine, where residents continue to Shelter In Place as the intense manhunt for a mass shooter stretches into a third day. This as we begin to learn more about the 18 People Killed in the attacks. Breaking overnight, the u. S. Launching air strikes in iranianlinked targets in syria. Military Officials Say it is in retaliation for a series of Drone Attacks on American Military bases in the region. Also breaking, israel carries out another raid in gaza, with drones and jets firing on what israel says were hamas command sites. And were starting to see the scope of the damage and heart break after Hurricane Otis Devastates the mexican city of acapulco. Survivors now scrambling to find supplies and come to terms with what theyre seeing. And we begin this very busy hour with the intense manhunt for the suspected killer behind two Mass Shootings in maine, who has now been on the run for 40 hours. And just a few minutes ago, Law Enforcement urged the public to be patient in their search. We have to take our time. Were going to be processing every square inch of these facilities. Not only do you have the victims in question, but every one of those rounds that got fired need to be investigated. Every one of those cartridges that lays on the ground needs to be collected. The vehicles that are in those parking lots, everything that we do around this we need to be careful. We need to be professional. And thats what were committed to do. For a second day meanwhile, entire communities in and around lewiston, maine, are under lockdown with no signs of where this suspected gunman could be. All this as multiple Law Enforcement agencies are investigating these brutal attacks that claimed the lives of 18 people, marking the deadliest Mass Shooting of 2023 and the deadliest ever seen in the state of maine. Joining us now, nbc news correspondent sam brock live in lewiston, maine, and frank figliuzzi, former Assistant Director for counterintelligence at the fbi. Hes an Msnbc National Security analyst. So, sam, what more are we learning about this suspect and the status of the manhunt . Reporter as for the status, jose, lets start with the headline here, in the words of the dps commissioner, clearly we dont have him located. They did come out and present a series of maps today, you can see them over my shoulder, depicting three different areas that are being searched for evidence, for information, one of them is sparetime, the Bowling Alley, one is the bar and grill, and the Boat Landing Area where the suspects car was found in the aftermath of this shooting within a couple of hours. That is actually a huge Point Of Interest today and im very curious to hear what frank has to say about this. Theyre allowing us to know now, the divers are going into the water today and said this will last four days, using sonar to try to pick up, quote, either evidence or bodies. Does that perhaps speak to the fact right now that all of these authorities, federal, state, local, the atf, the fbi, maine state police, do they have a sense regionally of where he is or are they looking for anything that can provide crucial information . We found out there has been roughly 530 tips total in the words of the dps commissioner that vary greatly. The first night, 70 odd witness statements that had to be transcribed. All of that collection of information is ongoing. Couple of things i did want to highlight, one, you talked about the closing down right now, the shelterinplace orders that so many local communities are dealing with, in the words of the dps commissioner, these are pluses and minuses theyre weighing right now. They understand the impact on families and those trying to take their kids to school or earn money, earn a living and cant leave the house. They see the risk as super elevated if theyre continuing this fourcity, at least, shelterinplace order. I asked the commissioner specifically can you confirm accounts from the family that a warning was provided to Law Enforcement and if so when agency, what did you know when and he refused to do so, he said i cannot confirm that warning. And also they were considering a yellow flag warning which is this idea of getting a Mental Health evaluation for someone here when you dont have Red Flag Laws to have a judge sign off on temporarily seizing access to their weapons. So we didnt get a lot of detail there, but a contact with the fbi did tell me, i think this is very interesting, with respect to confirming Family Information or not, the Family Information is so crucial, she said, because, a, theyre providing presumably intel as to what is going on, what theyre seeing from their Vantage Point but safety. Card could be watching from anywhere. All of these things are being balanced. And i would also add there has been conversations about how much time did it take for Law Enforcement to actually arrive on scene. Once again, no details provided there. Just that the first shots were called in at 6 58. 6 56. By 7 08, 12 minutes later, the second shooting was called in, but no detail at the moment as to how long it took Law Enforcement to respond, jose. Soso many questions still unanswered. And, frank, just to take a little bit of what sam was talking about, officials were clear there is going to be a massive deployment of perp nell in and around that body of water, where the car was found. Also, massive deployment of officers at both Massacre Sites. What does this tell you, frank . My takeaway from The Press Conference is that there are not a lot of substantive leads here. The police are doing everything logically, the body of water makes sense, of course. His subaru was found there. The Crime Analysis from the Massacre Sites has to get done, Evidence Collection. But that doesnt get us to a solution. I also take away from The Press Conference that certain techniques that usually help are not yet working. So technical coverage, for example, looking for the last known Cell Phone Usage seems not to have pinpointed a location for him. Heat signature, thermal imagery from the air may either be hindered by heavy foliage in the woods or maybe because the body theyre looking for is cold. Were also not hearing about the use of canines and that could be that dogs have lost their trace and the scent. Maybe in or at the water. So were now look at this dive, the dive process is very methodical and actually fraught with danger for the divers if the water is murky or muddy. As it often is in a river. These divers train in total darkness to pass a test for the fbi dive team, you have to get through obstacles with absolutely zero visibility. Thats the kind of risk theyre facing and also we heard hints from the commissioner that tactical teams are present, even during this dive and Evidence Collection because of the fear that the subject will appear and pose a threat to the searchers. So, frank, when you have so many different possibilities and very little to go on, really, right . What were seeing. Where do you go, frank, like, for example, when theyre in their meeting right now, talking about what they have to do, not only in the next hours, but maybe in the next 24 and 48 hours, where do you start when there is virtually no hard feeling of where this person could be. There is a couple of reasons for hope here in the investigation. One is the public is calling in tips. And it is quite likely that the idea of Crowd Sourcing will solve this crime, that the answer is in the publics eyes and ears and that could bring the lead that solves this. The second thing that is encouraging is we know they executed a Search Warrant at the individuals residence. Theyll glean from that, hopefully, his Online Activity, and theyll exploit that. We know the fbis social Media Exploitation Team is on the ground. And hopefully in his in his Online Activity will be some indication of what his plan was, and where he might go to hide. Sam brock and frank figliuzzi, thank you so much for being with us this morning. Really appreciate it. Were learning more, this morning, about the 18 People Killed in this massacre. These are 18 people with families, with friends, with lives that mattered and they mattered so much. Nbc news verified the identities of seven killed at the Bowling Alley including bill young and his 14yearold son aaron. Tricia asselin shot while trying to call 911. Michael deslauriers ii and jason walker described as Childhood Friends and heros who made sure their wives and children were safe. Coach bob violet, a bowling instructor, Teaching Kids at the time of the shooting, Teaching Kids at the time of the shooting. Tommy conrad, a manager at the Bowling Alley. And nine killed at the bar and grill where many were there to play the beanbag throwing game cornhole. Brian macfarlane, Steve Vozella and billy bracket. Joshua seal, joseph walker, a manager at the bar. Peyton brewerross, a new dad known for making jokes, Arthur Strout was playing pool with his dad when he was killed. Ron morin, a husband and father who also kept his family left. Max hathaway, stayed back to play pool after his pregnant wife and toddler left the bar. We are thinking of them and their families. 14 patients were rushed to one hospital over a 40minute period wednesday night. 100 off duty medical personnel rushed in to help. One of them joins us this morning, dr. Richard king, the Trauma Medical Director at central maine medical center. Thank you. Thank you for being with us. You i know you turned right around from your drive home wednesday night when you got a call about Mass Casualty events. You said you found a scene of Organized Chaos. What did you see . Yes, thank you for having me. When i got the call that there was multiple casualties, didnt know what to expect. As soon as i drove into lewiston, i could see that something major was going on, almost apocalyptic, ambulances after ambulances, police cars, and, you know, fortunately i had been in touch with one of my Physician Assistants who was in the ed and i was able to say, you know, get that patient that she was taking care of up to the or, im almost there. The actual Trauma Surgeon on call, my partner was already up in the or. So, yes, once i got into the ed, it was, as we say, Organized Chaos. But i will say, though, that, you know, we practice these mass disasters and everything went as we had practiced it. Everybody was in a very organized as much as they could be status of making sure that everybody was getting where they needed to go. Dr. King, what it says about all of us that hospitals have to actually have practice runs for mass trauma. Yet you can practice as much as you can, but the reality is is different. How do you process this as you are literally saving lives with this Extraordinary Team that you have there . It is almost surreal. You dont really expect that this is going to happen here in your community. It is ironic because im a Marine Corps Reserve Trauma Surgeon and two months ago i was on an exercise in wisconsin where we were practicing just exactly this, having to take care of mass casualties in a limited resource environment. And thats exactly what we were doing the other night. It is just unbelievably surreal. But, you know, i think fortunately because not only in the military, but also in the civilian world, we practice this and then when it all happens, we just do what we we act like we do in our training, and i have to say i cant say enough positive things about my colleagues who came in, and were there. It was it just worked so smoothly. One of my Trauma Program manager anticipated that we were running out of blood, and this was just like in the exercise i did and she had the presence of mind to reach out to nearby hospitals, maine general and augusta and st. Marys, our Hospital Neighbor nearby, and we were able to get blood when we needed it just in time. So, it was a lot of adaptability and just doing as we do normally. Yeah. Just, you know, the injuries and the level of injuries that you dealt with and it still is so unacceptable, doctor. It is unacceptable that you who have military experience, have to see this in your hometown. It is just, you know, how does that reality how does one go forward with that is a reality that can and does happen anywhere and everywhere . I mean, it is really quite shocking. I could tell you stories that i heard from my patients and, you know, about what happened to them, and it is just it really is quite unbelievable. The injuries that i see from these high velocity rounds are devastating. They cause so much injury because of the Destructive Forces involved. And for me, this is the first time, although ive never been deployed to combat zone, never seen the war time injuries that many of my colleagues have done who have served prior, but these the destructive power of these bullets is just really quite shocking. Dr. Richard king, thank you for being with us, thank you for everything you have done and continue to do for our Community Writ large. Thank you for being with us. Thank you very much. Up next, a message u. S. Defense Officials Say they are sending iran after american fighter jets struck two facilities in syria overnight. Were keeping our eyes on israel where were seeing a building on fire in the distance. Look at this live picture at 6 16 in gaza. All the way in the back of your screen there, right in the middle, you see a little bit of orange, it is not little when you get right up to it. Thats a pretty big impact in gaza. Well get the latest on the ground there in just 60 seconds. Youre watching jose diazbalart reports on msnbc. S. Youre watching jose diazbalart reports on msnbc. 17 pas t hour. More Breaking News this morning following u. S. Air strikes in syria on what the pentagon says are two iranianlinked targets. Defense secretary lloyd austin says the u. S. Retaliate for Drone Attacks on american bases in iraq and syria. According to defense officials, there have been 19 attacks since october 17th. Thats in ten days, including 21 personnel injured. U. S. Strikes amid rising tensions in the region over the israelhamas war. Courtney kube joins us this morning. Courtney, the pentagon says u. S. Citizen contractor died of a heart attack during one of these attacks. What do we know about this and about the targets struck by the u. S. . Yes, so that happened last week, jose. There was an American Contractor during one of these Shelter In Places, the individual had a cardiac event and died from it. But you mentioned there have also been as a direct impact from some of the Drone Strikes and indirect fire during these 19 attacks, there have been a number of u. S. Military personnel who also have been injured. They have fortunately been not not been major injuries, but still significant that there have been nearly two dozen injuries at this point, jose. We heard a little bit just last hour with our colleague ana cabrera, she spoke with pat ryder, the press secretary here, he explained why the u. S. Is in iraq and syria right now and that he said that the u. S. Will continue to do what is necessary to protect the troops. Heres what he had to say. We have u. S. Forces in iraq and syria for one reason and one reason only and thats to support the Ongoing Mission to defeat isis, our forces are in iraq at the invitation of the government iraq to assist their Security Forces on that important mission. And so, as we have said from the very start, we will maintain the inherent right of selfdefense, well take all necessary measures to protect our forces and our interests overseas. So these strikes were very surgical, very targeted to send a clear message that we will protect our forces. You heard pat there is a that right of selfdefense. The pentagon is characterizing these stres in Northeastern Syria as defensive in nature and thats because theyre saying what they struck was a facility that housed ammunition and one that housed wea

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