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MSNBCW Dateline July 4, 2024

With anyone . He believes that there is this lady out there stalking him. Someone starts tapping on the window. Now he is murdered and you are coming to me . There was anger behind this e that did not go away. Did you shoot your dad . What actually happened the other night . Im not sure how you want me to despond. Pretty horrible stuff. I couldnt fathom this. How much can one family bear . How do you contain horror . If this happened to you, where would you put it . In a box . Would you carry it with you everywhere . An anchor . Chained to your soul . Bucks is full of demons. Would you live in dread of the day you knew you would have to pry it open and look inside . A box full of the ghosts of my past. You have to be ready. Or would you put it off, would you wait till next year . I moved from state to state and that box found me. It followed me to. Of course it did. It was his past inside that box. And now, here he was prying it open. Will he ever be the same . Its a story of a family and in this case the story of my family. Here or more or less is where the whole thing announced itself. Derby montana, deep in the bitterroot valley, i town conceived in iniquity and born in crime. Maybe so. I mean, diabolical hardly begins to describe it. Smart people do crazy things. Its such a waste. Such a beautiful family. It was june, a sunny sunday afternoon when a woman called 911. My name is ann stout, i just got home and theres something wrong with my husband. There is blood and his eyes are all bruised and hes cold. Is he breathing . Hes not. Know hes not. The ambulance wailed down local highway 93 that of the west fork of the bitterroot river. I cant. I cant. Like supplicants beneath the staggering beauty of 10,000 foot trucker peak, on board the ambulance was dona renick or. What is it like going out on a call like that . As an emt, you get this Adrenaline Rush when you get a call and you are thinking about all the things that you are going to possibly be faced with. Dont hang up on me. I dont know if somebody is in the house or what. Woman on the line said she had driven across a broad grin meadow to a neighbors house to make the call. Dispatch told the crew the call was a possible code black, meaning . Possibly the person was dead. But you still dont know what you are walking into. As the ambulance approached, donnas partner suddenly realized something. You know this must be bill stouts house. She said, remember been, it had been a big thing in the community. Indeed, about which more later. But just then, memory snapped to attention. And so they couldnt help but wonder. Couldnt have possibly been a suicide . What happened when you got to the house . We walked in the house and my partner went to the left and i went to the right. I get almost to the laundry room and my partner says, donna, and here. Here was a bedroom on the east end of the house. There was something, someone, under the covers. She was on one side of the bed and i went to the other side. She said, he has recognize. And i said, okay, and so, the comforter was kind of hiding his head a little bit. Use of the body . I lifted the comforter and you could see come obviously, it was a gunshot wound. Didnt look like a suicide . That was my first thought. He shot himself. The way he was laying in the bed. As the ambulance went back down to the house, investigators want to look at the body in the bed. County attorney bill fulbright. There was definitely some appearances that maybe this was a suicide. Started to unravel pretty quickly once the detectives and deputies got the scene under control. Was there anything about the body that told them anything . You can tell that his body had been moved. The body had clearly been rearranged after death. How could they tell . There was blood, a lot of blood , dried on his skin but not in the places that blood would be. Unless, somebody rolled him over after he had been dead for a bit, and then of course there were the bed linens that didnt make sense at all. Theres a pillow that is partially covering his head, which struck everybodys odd that this was a person who committed suicide. There were Blood Spatter on some of the bed linens that the comforter had been put over. And when they analyzed it up close, it was a very straight down spatter so you can tell whether blood is coming at an angle, straight onto a surface or what angle leaves a different impression. This blood had come straight down and there was a Comforter Covering that part of the bedsheets. Finally, after all that complicated analysis right trained professionals, there was this. It was a pretty obvious thing right away that the handgun was not around build body. No gun. Not in the bed or anywhere near build body. Early this was on a suicide. That became apparent very quickly. Killed by the hands of another. Hands of another, such a loaded phrase. Coming up, turned out his murder wasnt the only highprofile death in the stout family. I will never forget crying on my bed thinking my life will never be the same. My hero is gone. Later, frighten the knights. Someone was tapping on my window. When dateline continues. But just ok isnt ok. And i was done settling. If you still have symptoms after a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help. Rinvoq is a oncedaily pill that can rapidly relieve joint pain, stiffness, and swelling in ra and psa. Relieve fatigue for some. And stop joint damage. And in psa, can leave skin clear or almost clear. Rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. Serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin; heart attack, stroke, and gi tears occurred. 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That summer home from college, he had taken a weekend trip with old friends and return on sunday. To the nightmare waiting on Chapter Meadow Road. Mom was hysterical and my brother was crying as well. Rumor hearing thats gone. And thinking, what do you mean hes gone . Did they tell you he was murdered . I dont think they used the term murdered. Is that he had been shot. No one knew more than most the ways grief can drag a family down. , though it had begun so well. Bill, his apparently murdered father, grip and california, central valley. Where he met and married and, adopted her little boy been. No and t sued followed and they idolized big brother been. Their dad bill was a tradesman a drywall installer. Thats how he met mark and denise eckert. We had downturn here in construction during the mid 1990s. He would take the family, load up the three boys and ann and start driving to montana after he got off work, on a friday. Bill wanted Something Else and he found what he was looking for on several trips up to montana. Founded here, outside the town of derby. A few miles as the crow flies from the montana out of hobart or. Jenny leyva was a reporter around here. Its a really beautiful place that attracts a Diverse Group of people. You have retirees and young families. But theres another side to the place, too. Right, theres an Interesting Group of people in the west. I think they prefer to live on the boundary of wilderness. And in this side of the place, bill bought 20 acres on Chapter Meadow Road and built this house with his very own hands. De remember that move . I wasnt pleased about it. I was a strong dissenter in our move. My dad was telling me Bedtime Stories about montana mike who was living all these adventures. When he moved, he said im going to be montana mike. He was telling the stories as much to himself as he was to me. That was his dream, to live somewhere where he felt unencumbered, feel free, i think. Bill was happy, content. He did all the things montana mended. Theres bill, theres montana. That rugged, handsome, quiet, hunter fisherman. He put up drywall around the valley and worked at a guest ranch, and later in a longterm Care Facility. Ann put so much of herself into raising those boys. And making a happy family life. Those boys were gentlemen. Bill would tell me how proud he and ann were of the grades the kids had because academically, they were killing it. Until ben was 18 and had been away at college. He was home on winter break. One to he left an and obscure note and walked Into The Woods and killed himself. His death, that first family horror, now just a page in a file in a box, but noah was just 11 and felt responsible somehow. I will never forget crying on my bed and thinking, my life will never be the same. My hero is gone. And four years i dealt with that. I think about ben every day. Did you know there was pain there . Did anybody in the family knew . I dont know what made them think about it but they sought out counseling for him. There was an artist. He was in a rock band. I was his outlet for his pain. I still have copies of his poems that i read. You are morning him still. Yeah, four years i had these nightmares of being chased and im trying to carry my brother and i cant carry him. I dont know what it is but in so many ways one of those things chasing me was my guilt and i couldnt save my brother when i wanted to. Nothing was really the same after that. There was a stress that piled onto my parents as a result of my brothers death. Marriage does come under enormous strain especially when your child dies that way. It wasnt their fault. He had a challenge he felt he couldnt overcome and he chose to make a decision that was entirely his own. Market suggested counseling. Bills answer was unyielding. No. No, were good. So its kind of that hackett down inside and maybe we can deal with it some other day. But now, seven years after the date of bens suicide on the same property, bill was dead . I couldnt fathom this. Gone, dead, murdered . None of that seemed real. Oh, but it was. Did your mind go anywhere in particular . This is not something that happens in our small town. Two highprofile deaths in our committee and they were my family in that house. How is this happening . How indeed . What is the old adage . Start close . There were sheriffs deputies coming to the door. Coming up, a town with eyes everywhere. At the best cameras you can get. What did they see . Hard questions for us on. Did you shoot your dad . Why would you ask that . When dateline continues. Wou whoa, how did you defeat them . Shop now at slcom with a little kung fu strength and by connecting my devices to the most powerful force of all. Skadoosh. Hah, huh . Cool right . Amazing. Harness the power of xfinity internet and stay connected to the things you love. Ah, theyll be like this for hours. Hello dad, hello dad, hello da. Uhoh. Good bunnies. Ahh perhaps you know me as, the kung fu panda. Ah, youre adorable. Huh. Oh, whah a setting june sun, long lazy, was busy playing with as a flock of investigators settle into the house in the meadow whether there probing eyes and endless questions. One question was asked, why would you ever want to hurt your dad . It was a very kind person, fairly introverted. So, said noah said bills friends, no one would want to kill him. We would sit and talk and try to how could this happen . Was the house broken into . And they just lost ben. How much can one family bear . As a look carefully at bills body, his wound, his bed, investigators were focused on more specific things. They would get to who did it, sure, but first, a question that just might leave them there. What time did bill breathe his last . In his bed, before a bullet ended his life . On the detectives first arrived, what was the estimated amount of time that bill had been dead . When they first arrived, there was some indications that he had been dead i believe it was 8 to 10 hours at that point. If they arrived at 5 00 p. M. , most likely that morning . Correct. That morning, and all day, bill had been alone at home. And their 16yearold spent the whole day at 70 miles up the highway in missoula shopping. They both told the Detectives Bill must have been killed soon after they left. What was bill doing when you left . He was in bed sleeping. Met confirmed they left that morning. 830, 815. And alibi, but who would have seen them way out here in Rural Montana . You might be surprised. They put him at the right place at the right time. This is larry rose, who probably wrote the war the badge as marshall of derby, population 800. His office is right on main street, a Cowboy Movies favorite read and animal skins, oldfashioned jail cell just like time stopped at about 1880. But then walk over here to the desk in the corner, that is a townwide very sophisticated surveillance system. I got the best cameras you can get. There are Video Cameras everywhere. Peering from flowerpots, storefronts, platter barrels. How many cameras . 60 . No, more than that. Hes always watching. He monitors speed through the little main street of derby. It is often a useful tool during investigations. Unusual for little town like derby. Its a little unusual. If the marshall can verify matt and ann had driven up to missoula, they would be in the clear. We just planned the night before to just go first thing in the morning and do things. In missoula. Sure enough, there were ann and matt driving the truck headed for missoula, 8 28 a. M. They had breakfast at ihop where ann placed a call to bill and got his voicemail. Were having breakfast at ihop and probably got hit costco last. If you can think of more stuff that i need to pick up, call and let me know. Talk to you later, love you, by. She said she and matt went to walmart, the mall and so on. Later in the afternoon as promised, costco, oregon she tried to call bill. I havent heard from you yet, so you must not need anything. Call me right away. By. The marshals, show them heading back to derby on the way home at 3 40 p. M. , just as they said. We walked in and we were putting things away and i was yelling for bill and it was really quiet, so i didnt think anything of it. I figured, he had gone somewhere. About 40 minutes after no bill showing up, ann opened the door to their bedroom. And. He was in bed and he didnt look like him. And then, said matt, panic set in. My mom yelled, we left the house and called 911. He backed up his moms story about what they did that day. Their movements and timeline. Yes. They had gone to missoula and done various errands, correct. She was telling the truth. Yes. Investigators had to ask the obvious questions. Do you have anything to do with the death of bill . No. I love bill very much. He he was very important to my life the way it was. I had enough bad things happening in my life and he was always the stable person. Matt, on the other hand said things that were a little surprising. Would you say you loved your dad . I did. I mean, i just didnt really feel like there was much love for me and it. Did you shoot your dad . Why would you ask that . I need to know. No, i did not shoot my dad. Why would i shoot my dad . See, i dont know. If there are answers, i need to hear them from you because there is a wonderful woman in there that needs to know. I dont know. I honestly dont know anything about it. Okay. Would you suspect your mother would . I dont think so. I mean, occasionally they didnt really like have theyve had their Little Things. They, Little Things . Now, that was certainly true. The untold story, maybe not so little. Coming up, someone is out there and im terrified. Latenight visitor, who for some reason, is targeting noahs father. Do you remember what you were thinking . What did you do . When dateline continues. Nues vo welcome to lobsterfest. Is your party ready . Ready to tango with tails on tails on tails . Try lobster lovers dream with two Lobster Tails and lobster shrimp linguini. Its one of ten nextlevel lobster creations. But lobsterfest wont last, so hurry in. Emergenc crystals pop and fizz when you throw them back. And who doesnt love a good throwback . emergenc crystals. Hi, im kim, and i lost 67 pounds on golo. When i go out with people, they expect me to eat like a bird. They are shocked by the amount of food i eat while losing weight. With golo, i dont need a cheat day because i get to eat the foods i like any day of the week. 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