The sleeves up because we are 235 days away from the election. Every day we are getting closer. The stakes get even higher. This week President Biden and donald trump wrapped up their primaries and other presumptive nominees. At the same time, all four criminal trials against trump are facing even more delays. In georgia, District Attorney forney willis can proceed with her case. With that, lets bring in our night and get ready because i could not be more excited about who is joining because they are the future stars of journalism in this country. Four outstanding Student Journalists from across the nation who have done amazing work. They have not in and graduated from college yet. Get ready to feel like you are and under performer. Theo baker, former spotlight editor at the stanford daily. The youngest ever recipient of the prestigious polk award. You have seen him before. Caitlin 80 joins us. Editor at the daily tar heel. The Student Newspaper at the university of North Carolina in chapel hill. She is in new york not just to join us tonight but to see the columbia scholarship process ocean award. Hugely prestigious. Congratulations. Tommy perrone is back with us. Editorial chair at the harvard crimson. His oped team got National Attention and a lot of stress for its position on harvard president claudine gay. Wilson joyce us. Reporter for the hilltop and how it university. Some of her recent interviews Stacey Abrams and funny willis. Im thrilled you are here. The general election is on and its a race between two candidate we already know very, very well. For many, this lesson is about the future of democracy. It is also about getting out the vote. We talked about undecided voters but at the end of the day theres not that many people whose opinions are changing. Its about voter turnout. Tommy, you worked on the Harvard Youth poll. You have worked with john devoe paid a regular. How much our Younger Voters paying attention to this election . That is always the essential question, right . Our young people going to turn out . Can they be the decisive factor that the parties want them to be . The democrats need them to be. What we are seeing is numbers turning out that looking a little bit lower on the top line. Of course, the key question is how will they turn a in Battleground States . We have seen that specifically the Biden Administration handling of the war in israel has been something that young people, especially progressives have been to satisfied with. People have been reading a little bit too much into National Polls that really have a very small sample size on voters. Love these polls its only 1000 voters. If you take the youth sample its 200, 300 voters and you try to go beyond that is only a couple dozen. You have to exercise a little bit of skepticism when you look at some of these headlines and it is still early in the process. The Biden Campaign is just wrapping up. I would encourage everyone to wait a little bit before drawing conclusions about young people. Well 2020 set a record for Younger Voters, over half went to the polls and their support for President Biden was decisive. It was overwhelming. You think you can count on them again . I think we are seeing young people turn out. We know that young people turn out to vote less than older generations do. I think we are seeing this you specifically with the number of people voting uncommitted. Maybe a little bit less faith in the incumbent president moving forward. I think that this is telling for young people and i dont speak for all young people. I think its telling we cant be afraid of doing something a little more out of bounds. I think joe biden and whoever else is interested in getting their bid in for president should be in tune to that. I know young people you were kind of alluding to it are not a monolith. Young people vote for x or y. When you think about what you are reporting and when you talk to people on your campus, what are the most important issues . Reproductive rights . Climate change . The war in israel . Absolutely i think we are in a unique position with his upcoming election cycle because both candidates have been president and observed president will terms, so voters are cognizant of their successes and their failures. Thats going to go into consideration as they are considering who they are going to vote for. Also, when president ial candidates are creating these campaigns, they are going to have to try hard to earn young voters trust and appeal to whats important to young voters. What do you think . I think the point that you made earlier is important about polling. Does not a lot of great polling on youth data. One poll i found interesting is connected by the generation left which is one of the only youth focused Polling Groups in the country. Hes just throwing the Harvard Youth poll in front of your face. I happen to know that generation are quite excellent. We saw youth voters in the 18 to 34 by 20 points for biden. This had about 5248, which is basically dead even. The fact that we are seeing polls or even that remarkably close is something that should be disregarded. I also think its really telling. The point you brought up about these both being president s, i think theres something fundamentally different about a president in the moment facing a crisis, which is someone who assesses, glories, triumphs and failures have been forgotten because it is four years ago and on top of mine for voters. You think young people dont realize that . For so many young people this is the first or second time voting. When democrats are saying do you remember what its like four years ago . You remember what its like having donald trump is the president during covid . A lot of young people who are 18, 19, 20 they dont. Its a good point about the the client. If you look at likely voters, you isolate for that group who are the ones who matter once going to be coming to the polls in november, you will find a we found this semester in one of our polls that is a decline in support but a small one a maybe a couple of points and those who support biden over trump. Think the question is what will turnout look like among young voters . That is something that could be happening under the hood and could be threatened by the chances. The other thing i will note as much as theres always an Information Engagement Issue for young voters thats the challenge the biden agenda is overwhelmingly popular. The question is is the Biden Campaign ramps up now really enters Campaign Mode fully, can they communicate successes in a way that resonate with young people and get them to turn out to the polls . Today in georgia, the judge decided the d. A. Funny willis i know you have interviewed her she can proceed with this case against donald trump. We did here today in the new yo going to be delayed. Young people on campuses, they following these trump trials . I have seen quite a mixed response. I would say on howards campus specifically of course funny attended Howard University so we have a little bit more of a stake in it than elsewhere. Do you think students are paying attention to these trials that donald trump is going through, or are they hearing what they learned social media about the gold trump standards . I think students of following issues and not candidates. It means theyre not into it about whats happening in georgia or new york. We know what we care about. I think students in my campus care about reproductive rights, transgender rights, the conflict between israel and gaza. If you like looking towards where candidates stand on those issues has been more for polls with people of rh deciding who should i give my vote to. I dont think they are following stuff like that. Even though it could and probably will have huge implications for who is our next president. Its fascinating. Stanford is not a politically engaged campus. Since october 7 we have seen a resurgence of activism and away we havent seen since the vietnam war. Im not sure how lasting thats going to be. Im not sure what impact it will have on how people vote. It feels different than it did a year ago. It feels different than it has in my time at stanford. I cant tell you what kids are going to do with that but they are thinking something they havent in the past and there fired up. My impression from pulling young people as a people value voters. They are voting on the feeling that a candidate accords with the fundamental beliefs less so than technical specifics of a given policy issue. When it comes to the issue with israel and gaza, i think that for a lot of young people, there is a frustration because they want a symbolic action that accords with their values. The context of palestine but diplomacy the difficult thing is it happens under the table quietly and subtly. Then its too late. Then its too late. It has been documented with the Biden Administration approaching conflicts and gaza, it has been public announcement saying one thing that it are supporting for israel and Behind The Scenes this pressure on netanyahu to walk back some of the violence in gaza. Its interesting about how they can bring communications in line with that reality, that difficult diplomatic reality. That is been a challenge for the Biden Administration. Donald trump, in some polls, he is clearly not doing better than President Biden but he is polling better today than he did last time around. Why do you think that is . Do you think it is this extension of culture wars and attack on will give them wokism . I know there is young men in this country who follow likes of joe rogan and surprisingly there seems to be sort of more support than the average person would think for donald trump. I think its an interesting question that i dont have a full answer to. What i can tell you is that what we are seeing is a lot of meat vacation on the internet. I would not discount the ability of a Surroundsound Culture to impact people in a subliminal way. You see these tiktok videos that are a couple of seconds and you keep scrolling. You not thinking about them too much. Every time you are inundated with the same message, you see President Biden fooling over. You see donald trump making some fussy remark. That is something that gets into your brain. The more these algorithms self reinforcing content, it becomes something to think about without knowing your thinking about it. Back at the age of these two candidates, anger, young voters to the point where they might not come out and vote. I think its angering voters, young voters apathetic. If we cant look at the ballot and see someone even remotely similar to us or who might have a similar Life Experience that deathly not what we are getting with these two candidates. I think its dismaying young voters and making them less likely to engage. To think the likes of the cornell west of rfk jr. Could excite young voters enough that they could end up being spoilers . I think thats the worry. As much as trump is almost the same ages biden the person we hear is too old much more often is biden. On one hand maybe thats because the parties have chosen different attack lines. I think theres some stuff since to this which is that young people see clips of joe biden stumbling on misspeaking. Trump, full of the other concerns that people have about him even though he mistakes all the time. He does so confidently and loudly and that is what gets on tiktok. How do you establish that . You do have ultimately the fundamental values. Have you signaled to them that even if you are older im still getting things done for you. That is what the Biden Campaign has been trying to do. The question is not how old i am but how old my values are. Thats what they are trying to hone in on purpose. I want to talk more about social media. We will take a quick break. When we come back. Why congress is talking down on tiktok. On tiktok. Have Heart Failure with unresolved symptoms . It may be time to see the bigger picture. Heart failure and seemingly unrelated symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome, shortness of breath, and Irregular Heartbeat could mean something more serious, called attrcm a rare, underdiagnosed disease that worsens over time. Sound like you . Call your cardiologist and ask about attrcm. Power e trades awardwinning trading app makes trading easier. 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Our night frame cap is with us. What you think . Is that i think is potential bama have a large and this may impact. I saw firsthand for a lot of offices receiving a lot of calls from young voters. Also, teenagers asking to avoid the van. I think its important to note that considering whether it will be important for young voters and how president ial candidates implement that into the campaign if they want to garner that vote. Do you think those young voters realize why the ban is potentially being put in place . Its not because they feel like the kids arent going outside to play baseball because they are on the tiktok. The issue is over National Security. Do you think those young voters realize that . I would say that probably for the most part they are not aware that that is an actual reason that it is on the floor. It is kind of unfortunate that they are not aware. I would hope that they looked further into the issue so that they were able to make an informed decision. I mean, listen. Social Media Companies dont use data well. I think, of course, there is the overtone which is that hold on. And i think you mean the user well they dont use it for good purposes. There using it very well but not doing so as many people would deem good. It is not just tiktok. I get it its a Chinese Company in that place into a bigger geopolitical barrier that has some legs to it. At the same time im sitting here thinking well, mehta has more data uses it with greater sophistication and historically we have many more cases in which the of used to poorly. Thats not to say tiktok isnt a National Security threat. It is to say and it was a great piece in the atlantic About What Social Media has done to childhood. I think that that, to me, which i think is honestly one of the prime causes of the Youth Mental Health crisis and a variety of other pressing issues, that is what i would like to see congress thinking more deeply about. We had tons of hearings about how big tech uses monopoly power. How big tech makes people self conscious of their bodies and appearances. This goes so much deeper than just selfimage. It is fundamentally about the way it works and we really. Its harder to listen to people rattle on about ticked up and when this is fundamental crisis producing crises in american dolts. Those hearings a great big entertainment shows. Before the hearings and after is all the bigtime lobbyists from those companies are entertaining those very lawmakers that is sitting up there rally against companies and nothing gets done. Caitlin, i see you nodding. Im assuming because its not just tiktok. All of these companies. When it comes to Data Privacy Laws and regulations we basically dont have any. Im with tommy. I dont think tiktok is unique other them it is a Chinese Company but is very well known for being a Chinese Company and for being really popular with young people. What i worry about when we take tiktok off the market and they can no longer an option is censorship yes the morsel censorship of people who rely on tiktok to get the message out. Thick about nonprofits, grassroot organizers. Young People Like Us who use it to i hate to say get an idea of what the political world is like but that is what we are using it for. I think taking it off the market is cutting off some very valuable ties between young people and the rest of the world. Is there a risk that that is what young people are using it for, tiktok, as their news source. All of you as journalists have a deep understanding of standards and Best Practices. You know as editors, all that gets left on the cutting room floor. As exciting and fun as it is unless it meets the standard there