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MSNBCW Ayman July 4, 2024

The Maca Movement becoming less united and more toxic despite meeting more voters to win, and the growing coalition to defend the squad against the pro israel lobby in washington. Lets do it. The house gop pushed to impeach item has collapsed into an embarrassing failure after more than a year of empty promises and neverending duds. They have come up with nothing. Republicans know it and the democrats know it, and the white house certainly knows it. In a letter sent to mike johnson this week, white House Counsel Edward Siskel wrote it is time to move on, mr. Speaker, the impeachment is over. There is too much important work to be done for the American People to continue wasting time on this charade. Even House Republicans are admitting that they have hit a dead end. Ken buck decided to leave congress this week in part because we have taken impeachment and we have made it a social media issue as opposed to a constitutional concept. Congressman troy neals, a staunch biden critic has been similarly browned on the gops chances telling fox i do not think we have the will to impeach joe biden. The letter also pointed to the criminal indictment of the gops star witness Alexander Smirnov who was accused of lying to the fbi about bribes he said the bidens took. Despite the white house telling House Republicans to put up or shut up, lets be real, they are unlikely to do so. James, is present. With his plan b. This includes legislative reforms like tighter Financial Disclosure and foreign lobbying guardrails, Criminal Referrals for hunter biden and others to the geo j, a potential lawsuit for officials testimony and calls from some within their own conference to just keep investigating. , told the outlet that his number one priority has always been not impeachment, but to pass Influence Peddling legislation. Really . Because comber was singing a different tune last year when he credited his investigations are bidens poor poll numbers. That is what his Impeachment Push has always been about, getting revenge for trumps legitimate impeachments and of course trying to hurt joe biden. Lets say we take him at his word about tackling Influence Peddling. I say go for it because as my Colleague Brown writes any legislation that republicans might draft in an attempt to embarrass biden would be guaranteed to hurt donald trump. Republicans know this, so brown argues democrats should do it themselves. Of course they point out the president has not done anything wrong, but they can say they share the concerns about the need to strengthen the ethical guardrails surrounding the white house. After all, trump reportedly took in at least 7. 8 million from foreign entities while in and we know people in his orbit have been accused of profiting by acting as undisclosed foreign lobbyists. Of course, there is Jared Kushner who continues to develop overseas deals as his fatherinlaw runs for re election. It is hard to say where exactly House Republicans will take this crusade next, but one thing is very clear, they are not going to save themselves from further embarrassment and democrats may soon be thanking james, or an unintentionally brilliant idea. We have an allstar panel to break this down for us. Joining me now is sykes and mills and brian tyler , contributor and host of the no live with brian tyler Podcast Beer Great to have you with us. Charlie, i will start with you. Given everything we have outlined, where do republicans go from here . Are they to foreign to give up on this fantasy idea of impeaching joe biden . They had Things Writing them, the psychological need to come up with some way to rationalize what is happening with donald trump you cant do this in isolation. Donald trump is one scandal after another, so psychologically they need to make the what about is in case and this is also a political dynamic. Trump is going to demand a move ahead. There is no way they can split say we do not have anything on joe biden, sorry. You are just going to have to go by yourself. Between the need to find a way to rationalize supporting donald trump by saying yes but look at the bidens and Donald Trumps medical necessity of throwing up all of this smoke and dust to say everybody is a crook, i dont see how they back out of this even though, as you point out they have fallen flat on their face. Your reaction to what we are seeing from the white house. Is the smart them to call up mike johnson and go on the offense by calling them out for the nothing burger they are chasing after . I think it is always smart for them to call out the ridiculousness, just to affirm this is a nothing burger, to your point. The republicans try and they try and they try to say it is the democrats doing something crazy and corrupt thinking that americans are not actually going to be looking at what they are doing, including donald trump. It is important that we remind people over and over that that is exactly what this is, it is a distracting tactic with absolutely no merit so i do believe that it is wise for the president , certainly, but for everyone, all of us in the media to constantly remind people that there is nothing here. They found absolutely zero evidence of wrongdoing, and so this is going to go nowhere in the more we talk about that, i think it helps to cut into the circus they are creating where they are just trying to rile people up distract them and create some crazy Reality Show Drama Thinking People would be far more entertained and looking the other way while trump continues to rob us blind. Was this the natural and for this . You have, boasting about how this investigation helped him down bidens numbers, there is no evidence to actually support that, but where else could this possibly be going for comber and his cohorts . To aishas point, i think they hoped all along this would amount to something more significant. They have relied on treating their own supporters kind of as ignorant as they hoped they would be, but the American People are smarter than that. We have all been able to recognize that this is a Well Trod Path for republicans. You brought up troy nehls in the earlier part of this segment. He was asked early on in this Impeachment Inquiry Effort with the point of this was, like what basis there was for this and his response was donald trump 2024, baby. That is what he said. The whole point of this was always to help donald trump. They just came out and said it. This is not the first time they have done it. If you look a decade ago, Kevin Mccarthy did the same thing with the Benghazi Select Committee where he said the point of this was to hurt hillary clinton, so they have tried this again and again and may have worked in the past, but it is clearly not working now. There are some republicans gung on this impeachment. Let me show you what great stoop set the fox. I would love to be able to vote on the impeachment of joe biden for the border and the atrocities that have been there a personal day and in violating federal law, but also all of these federal crimes the whole family has committed that we now have evidence of. I am not sure he understands what impeachment is, but it seems like the order is the goalpost for him and his colleagues. It is performative. This is something they have been pushed to buy trump. He understands he is the twice impeached president , if he can have biden impeached, if everybody is impeached, nobody is impeached. If everybody is corrupt, that becomes a wash and that is the drive. How do you bring attention to some other issue that has nothing to do with high crimes and misdemeanors . The problem is they dont have the votes. I would like to go back to something you said earlier, this idea of fair play. This is really, i mean, i think we need to step back. Republicans supporting trump are now concerned about conflicts of interest. They are concerned about ethics. Lets talk about that. Lets talk about what trump did in the white house, lets talk about the others. It is interesting that this is hanging out there, and part of me is thinking we have gotten so normalized to the graft of the trump years that we kind of assume that people understand that. I dont think they do and i think that if republicans do want to spend valuable congressional time talking about the lets do that. Lets have a gestation that would target the kinds of things that donald trump did in the white house that his family continues to do and he is likely to do if he gets back. When it comes to Influence Peddling, you are not a member of Congress Unless you have had Influence Peddling and progressives have wanted to get special money out of politics. Do you see that getting momentum or is this purely direct checks and performance . The way to answer that question is to look at what happened at the border. Republicans have spent years, decades wailing about the border and so joe biden came in proved himself a willful or participant and he said you want a border deal, lets do a border deal, get conservative republicans to negotiate the thing, and when James Lankford did that and handed a border deal that did not have any comprehensive immigration reform, which had always been the poison pill as far as republicans were concerned, still republicans balked. In terms of taking them at their word and believing them when they say they want these changes, i think their reaction to the portable explains it all. What do you think in terms of whether or not this has any substance to it or is it purely performative at this point i republicans . We know all they are is performative. There has not been one real piece of legislation to solve problems for American People that they have been eager to move, to discuss, to debate, to hear comment on and then to actually try to pass through congress. At the end of the day, the are not really interested in legislating in a way that benefits the nation. That is not what they are doing, they are using their wills in congress right now to create, to open up political opportunity on the ground for elections peer that is why we are in this nonsensical conversation over and over about trying to persecute, prosecute biden and impeach him for something that just is not true, like the facts are clear. They are full of lies and deceit and yet it doesnt matter because at the end of the day, they dont want to pass any type of legislation that is meaningful, they just want to use this as political all. They are not actually getting anything done when it comes to with the country needs. Everyone stick around. We have got more to discuss. We will talk about the new fault lines emerging in the Republican Coalition thanks to donald trump. Unity is key and members say they feel disappointed and downright bored. Like carpal tunnel syndrome, shortness of breath, and Irregular Heartbeat could mean something more serious, called attrcm a rare, underdiagnosed disease that worsens over time. Sound like you . Call your cardiologist and ask about attrcm. man excuse me, would you mind taking a picture of us . tony oh, no problem. man thanks. You . tony yes, problem. You need verizon. Get the new iphone 15 pro with tons of storage. 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Authoritarians romanticize order imagining a society where everyone falls in line without parole. In the real world, it is hard to communicate, much less organize without some tolerance for disagreement. When authoritarians get together, it is a clash of egos of people who all think everyone else should unquestioningly obey them. It is not just that they fight, they have no capacity to work through disagreements. Skills like listening, appetizing, or compromising run counter to the maga mindset. We have charlie and aisha and brian. So what do you make of this disconnect between maga and i guess i will say Congressional Republicans . Will the Disarray Lead to doom in november . It certainly could. This is what you get when you have a party that does not have any coherent ideology. They have nothing that binds them together except loyalty to trump, so we have a lot of egos who are performative, and do not see any reason to work with one another, so it is interesting that you have narratives, this is a party fully controlled by donald trump and it is also at war with itself because you have so many egos and so little intellectual or principled coherence behind this party. Speaker johnson clearly has an Issue Wrangling has caucus, hardly a leader. The movement clearly does not care about attracting nontrump republicans. Where does this go next . I think ultimately this was their plan all along. The point of what todays report party is doing is just to break government and point to the government that they have broken as evidence that government cant work so then they would tell the voters that you have to elect small government republicans because clearly the government cant work, we are the only ones that want to deal with a government that should be shrunk to as small as possible. That is what we are seeing, this is their plan in action, and as a minority party, that could work, but in the majority we are seeing no legislation, even their own priorities fall by the wayside, i it is probably a boring situation for them. How does Biden Campaign leverage this unity among republicans, doesnt even matter for them . Perhaps it is an opportunity to pull some independence or people who are really tired of that reality show, name calling, trash talking, Deceit Celebrity Culture that is based on something sinister as opposed to real values and passion for supporting people. Perhaps there is an opportunity for them to pull those folks off because this is what is interesting about the way the party is combusting. You used to be able to point to the conservatives and point to the party and say they are in lockstep. That is what made them powerful. Now they are not, so they are fracturing themselves and it is an operative entity to their voters off. You have folks like gates and other members of the House Freedom caucus campaigning against colleagues who are facing primary challenges despite speaker johnsons please not to do so. Is this another sign of that chaos in the caucus tha

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