Deadly air strikes leave 20 people dead, mostly children. Here at home, texas Immigration Law with stop and frisk is spreading to other states. Lets do it. Est in the president ial election hit a near low. 64 of registered voters say they have a highlevel interest of the election. On the face it might not sound alarming until you realize it was slower than nbc news found at the same point in time four years ago and during every election cycle before it, going all of the way back to 2008. This after america juggles twiceis, here and abroad the growing war as tensions over the israeli hamas war and the volatile situation abroad is contributing to rising inflation and gas prices for americans. Meanwhile, trump reported to a manhattan courthouse four times this week at the start of the first ever criminal trial of a former u. S. President. Come november, he could become the first to be convicted of a crime. That conviction would not bar him from running to become our president the second time. No matter your stance on any of the above we can agree on two things, this is an unprecedented moment. And americans are not interested in who wins the next election. Tonight the question is why . Is part of it the Trump Saturation Factor . Given historic nature of his trial the Af Origin American will not escape seeing him on their screens for what is expected to be six weeks of trial . Or that we are gearing up for a rematch that no one wanted. They said i dont think biden has done much as preside and if trump gets elected and i feel it will be just the same thing before biden got elected. To that point is this lowlevel interest in this years election due to a brooder sense that our political system is broken and our government is not representing us. No matter where you fit on the political spectrum. To answer all of those questions, life questions, i would say. Lets bring in. Our panel. Just to be clear i disagree. I dont think joe biden and trump was the same for this country. I know it was a sound bite we shared but what do you make of this phenomenal, adrian, that we are seeing a lowlevel of interest around the same time, usually the polls taken around the same time . I would love to dig into the cross tabs and understand what is in the minds of voters. A lot of it has to do, my guess, a lot of trump fatigue out there. There is somebody who you just mentioned we are going to see. We are just at the beginning of the trial. Him in the courtroom for the next six weeks. This is just the first trial of what will be likely several more Voter Fatigue and president biden, the campaign is still early. Seven months away from the election. There is still a lot that, a lot of voters who are not tuned in or focused on what is going on. Once you get more paid media focusing on his accomplishments and job creation but economic successes as president but what he will do in a second term you get the avengers out there on the campaign trail, the cabinet members, mayors, a strong bench of topnotch surrogates out there. Once you see it heat up on the democrat side, there will be a lot of excitement and enthusiasm and it will reflect in similar polls like this. This is, i think, the first time matthew in my lifetime, that we are seeing a rematch of two former president s. It has been a minute since we have seen that. How much of that is a factor . This is a match up that people were not excited about from the get go. Irrespective of who the two men are and how different they are but the mere fact that it is a replay of two individuals and america is always about politically speaking at least, rebirth or new candidates or new blood in the system. It is that, two candidates that are both unpopular. Unpopular among the general electric. We have 70 of the country that says we are off on the wrong track. And two former president s running simultaneously in an environment that people are combarded with for information on each of them in the course of this. I think all of the factors. I think lead to this moment in april. Where people are ex exhausted by it. I do agree with her when it shows how much it matters in the course of this and the meaning it has. I think at that point people are going to be not focused on like, i dont like him and i dont like him but focused on what does it mean for this country. One of the things that is showing us that way is the number one issue in the new nbc poll, i think as you know, was not inflation, was not the border, the number one issue was protecting american democracy. That was the number one issue in the poll. So, as that conversation happens, as we get closer to election day. My guess is we will set a new record on people who voted in this election. How do you think it will translate . I know we have been saying we are 10 months out of it. Is it enough time for both parties . The democrats, on generate Voter Enthusiasm for their candidate . That is plenty of time. But to meet these expectations that we have had in the last few cycles, unrealistic. You know, you mentioned like the new letter, old goats, i am an old goat. And i have been following since the 1980s. Since the 80s, the 90s, the early part of the 20th sent rear turnout was lower than it has been in the last three cycles. We might see a reversion of it and go back to the period when not as many people were interested. However, the other factor that we have not talked about the first rematch since 1956. Eisenhower won for the second time before that, you have to go back to 1888. So, rematches are uncommon. And people dont like them. They want something new. Especially when they have two candidates of record age. You have a rematch and you have two old guys, neither of which are recipes for high turnout. Adrian. Thousands of voters showed their frustration with the Biden Administrations handling of the israelgaza war. Through uncommitted and unrestricted votes. How much of that is low Voter Turnout . You have a chance in the primary to say, to express your frustration, express your concern and vote uncommitted such as a lot of the voters in the Democratic Party in michigan. There is a strong belief on the biden campaign. A strong belief that is reflected in polls that a lot of the voters will come home when it comes to the election. It was just laid out perfectly. A giant concern about protecting democracy. That concern is not because donald trump is, you know, the captain of protecting democracy it is because he is not. Y he wants to govern, we have heard it, a lot of the concern is there. I think when it comes down to it, absolutely, after labor day when more voters are tuned in. And a strong choice for this election. It will be more and more clear for what independent voters and swing Voters Decide the selection. A small sliver, i think it is clear what they will end updoing and vote for joe biden. And i think cortez said, i would be under biden than trump. Given what trump said we may not be able to organize against anything. Freedom of exprotection would be on the table for him if he enjokes the Insurrection Act as he wants to. Jonathan, i wanted to turn to trump here in a moment. During the Hush Money Trial we saw the former president in a new light. Someone who was falling asleep. Somebody who did not have the stamina or the strength if you will to realize the moment he was in. Could his image take a hit during the next couple of hits on trial in a way that dents him . Reporter i think very much could. I was in the courtroom. I saw him falling asleep. This is not reportedly, this actually happened. On more than one occasion, monday and again on thursday and friday. He was nodding off. It makes it hard for him to call joe biden sleepy joe. That nickname is out the window. And think about the contrast. Joe biden has what they call Kitchen Table conversations going on all across the country. Where he gets to highlight his record. Donald trump is having Defense Table Whisper Conversations with his attorneys. Not a good look. You can not get out there on the trail in a split screen of Biden Campaigning and trump in a criminal trial where he very easily could face conviction. We dont know. But he is in deep legal trouble right now. That is not a good look for trump. Matthew, is there a moment in this process in this trial over the next several months where the Biden Administration has to comment . Has to talk about what is going on without interfering in the trial or without appearing to be. Using it to crystallize over what is at stake for the american voters. Tuning some of this out. Well, first, the first thing that i will say is i agree with jonathan on this. I think the falling asleep is the worst thing so far to happen to donald trump t. Goes to a core thing that he constantly talks about. His vigor and his stamina and all of his supporters draw the crazy pictures of musclebound pictures of him doing crazy stuff that they do. That falling asleep goes straight to that. It takes the strength he thought he had into a weakness. On the other side, the Joe Biden Campaign has been smart. They should not say a word about this until the point he is convicted. Once he is convicted they should go all in on it and say do you really want to elect a president convicted of a felony in the course of this. I would not say a word until that moment happens. Final word to you, do you agree with that as well as a political strategist . Yes. Trump being on trial speaks for itself. Why try to politicalize it. The biden campaign, the campaign of the white house have been smart, stand back and let the chips fall where they may. Yes. Great to have all three of you with us. Appreciate your time and insights. Thank you. After the break, stories of some of the families killed in rafah that mostly took the lives of children that mostly te lives of children hey little bear bear. Im gonna love you forever cmon, bear. You dont. You dont have to worry. Be by your side. Ill be there. With my arms wrapped around. Harlem has everything. But i couldnt find pilates anywhere. So i started my own studio. And with the right help, i can make this place i love even better. Earn up to 5 cash back on Business Essentials with the chase ink business cash card from chase for business. Liberty mutual customized my Car Insurance and i saved hundreds. Thats great. I know, ive bee telling everyone. Baby liberty. Oh baby liberty. How many people did you tell . Only pay for what you need. 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Because this baby was delivered from her dead mothers womb the mother, seven months pregnant. Her husband, their 3yearold toddler all killed in an air strike that killed 22 people. 18 of them children according to the Health Officials in gaza. The child born into a world surrounded by death. Now already an orphan. And while the theater of horror that has become gaza is live streamed on our screens, this is what our congress thinks is the best move. On this vote. This bill is passed. That was the House Of Representatives on capitol hill yesterday after passing a 95 billion aid package with no restrictions for ukraine, israel and taiwan. The longawaited bill that saw brood bipartisan support is headed to the senate for a vote. Roughly 26 billion is allocated for israel. That includes money for the Israeli Military and advanced Weapon Systems despite the growing horrors that the world is witnessing. You see, there is a twisted and troubling logic that is at play here. American taxpayer dollars are being spent all over this war. Israel is using American Made fighter planes to drop American Made bombs on the Palestinian People who we are in turn receiving, who are returning u. S. Aid paid by for tax dollars to stay alive. United states has been israels principal arm supplier, protector and Security Umbrella since the countrys inception. It comes at a time when there is growing concerns where and how the money is being used against the Palestinian People. So bad are the violations that axios reported three u. S. Officials say secretary of state blinken is expected to announce sanctions against one of israels known Military Units because of the conduct and Human Rights Violations in the occupied west bank. Nbc news has not independently confirmed this. You would think israel would be cooperative in making sure the military conduct is in compliance with our laws. Instead, the reaction of israeli officials has been to shund the the concerns. The government would act by all means against any such move. Israels president warned the u. S. Not to interfere in its internal affairs. And today, Israels Defense Ministry called secretary of state blinken, and u. S. Ambassador to try to prevent these u. S. Sanctions from going forward. Look. There is nothing wrong with israeli officials telling them to bug off but you can not take our weapons and our tax dollars and work to undermined our Security Interests and policies. They warned about invading rafah. Israel rejected the calls and insisted it will go on with a rafah operation despite the u. S. Concerns. And just this week with the heightened tensions between the two countries israeli Finance Minister is pushing to start the Legalizations Process for 68 Settlement Outposts in the occupied west bank. He is pushing to expand these illegal settlements. 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He serves as israels council. And wrote a book. It is great to have you back on the show. Thank you for making time for us. I wanted to start with new comments from the israeli president. He said in an interview today that american political leaders should not intervene in Israeli Politics and leave it to the israeli public and the body politic. Isr