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Good evening from new york. We will start with this. Michael cohen testified against donald trump at his new york trial yesterday. The former president was joined by quite the entourage of defenders. According to reporting from Rolling Stone in the early days of the trial, the former president was infuriated at the lack of visible support from his allies in the courthouse. Where are they, he complained earlier this month. Well, trumps allies no appear to have heard the complaint loud and clear. They showed up in full force in downtown manhattan. Yesterday, trump received visible support for multiple members of his family, his son, eric along with his daughterin law, laura as well as a whos who of republican politicians. Surrogates included former republican president ial candidate be back ramaswamy, north dakota governor doug burgum and even Speaker Of The House mike johnson. Trumps entourage was united in their message as they all spoke to the cameras. All of us are here as friends of donald trump, supporting him. Former President Trump is innocent of these charges. The American People have already acquitted donald trump. The judicial system in our country has been weaponized against former President Trump. Where is the crime . There is no crime. Are corrupt. Trump surrogates also use their time at the microphone to level more personal attacks against Michael Cohen and even judge one response family. The other clear intention of the trump gang was to bring the campaign to the courthouse. Several surrogates were obviously auditioning for Vice President. The entire group and coordinating outfits of gray suit and red tie. We are here in court with former President Trump standing with him but we need you to stand with him, too. Go to donald j. Trump. Com to support trump and his efforts to win this election. Anything you can give would make a world of difference. We are here fighting the good fight. They cannot win. Lets make America Great again. So, while trumps entourage may have provided some moral support, politics was clearly their main purpose. Im joined now by congressman jamie raskin, democrat of maryland. Congressman, your impression of the Political Support you saw for the former president this week. You know, they are all attracted to the mecca of the courthouse in order to demonstrate their complete obeisance and sycophancy to donald trump and i think it is a good thing that they are identifying themselves, the people who have completely allowed donald trump to devour their Critical Thinking skills and their political and moral independence. Speaker johnson is a guy who has said that the bible is his Guiding Document and is basically the Law Of The Land and yet, he has made the pilgrimage to new york to demonstrate how obsequious he can be to donald trump, a guy who is now an adjudicated rapist, an Adjudicated Fraudster and is on trial for cooking the books for lots of money to cover up hush money payments to his adult film star mistress, so i am a member of the free thought caucus and we have been saying all along that speaker johnsons adherence to religion is just a form of political tribalism. It doesnt have anything to do with religious principle and now he is showing the world that is true. Eye especially trusting since he is not on the list of potential vp pics. How is the fact that you have all of these sitting members of congress traveling to new york to do trumps political bidding impacting the workflow of the House Of Representatives . Well, i know they have to move one farce, which is this scheduled hearing and markup session about Holding Attorney general garland in contempt for actually complying with their order and turning over the complete transcript of Donald Trumps interview with Special Counsel her. Now, theyve decided thats not enough. They dont just want a verbatim transcript. They want the audiotape in order to salvage their completely discredited and humiliating impeachment voyage, theyre trying to hold Merrick Garland in contempt. That was scheduled for 11 00 am tomorrow and we just got notice it is been moved to 8 00 pm because a bunch of members of the majority and Oversight Committee are traveling to new york so they can soothe Donald Trumps wounded feelings that he wasnt supported. As you said, they are standing in front of the courtroom, doing Fundraising Appeals from inside the courthouse in service of a second trump term. When we talk about the potential dangers of that possibility reported in the washington post, he promised to ease regulations on the oil industry while asking executives to steer 1 billion to his campaign. You have now opened an investigation into that dinner. Which details are you hoping together and how do you establish that as a quid pro quo . It is amazing how explicit all of this is. He is basically saying to the oil and gas execs, pony up 1 billion which will go in some part to his campaign, but mostly probably to his lawyers and legal expenses, and who knows how much of it makes its way back to the trump family but in any event, he is saying, give me 1 billion and im going to reverse the Biden Administrations actions on liquefied natural gas. Im going to, you know, blow the roof off the house in terms of allowing you to draw whatever you want to drill and so on and Everybody Knows where donald trump stands, but its almost as if he wants to walk right up to the line of criminal bribery and state what the quid pro quo is. Obviously there can be no criminal or civil action before the election. The trials are taking place now are based on things that transpired several years ago but at least the public can see this for what it is. Donald trump is saying at events, if you want to come up and make a speech, give me 1 million, ill let you do it. And two people said yes. Two people jumped up on the stage. Yes, and that in itself might be a campaignfinance violation. Again, we have a kind of dysfunctional arrangement at the fec because the republicans blockaded the action but you know, he asked for 1 million, which is more, when you added up, and all of the different elements he could actually be soliciting for but again, i dont want to place too much faith in the legal system, the campaignfinance regime. Im putting my face in the people. The people of got to understand what is going on. We have two completely contrasting schools of thought about what government is. One says government must be an instrument for The Common Good and the other says government is a simple moneymaking operation, and instrument for private selfenrichment for the guy who gets in and his family and his businesses and that is what the gop has become and that is the scandal in the shame of all of these republicans who are taking the metro liner up to new york so they can prove to donald trump how much they love him. They may be learning the wonders of amtrak. Congressman jamie raskin, thank you for getting us started. Thank you for joining me on your day off. Heres the thing that gets me. The continuity of the rift. The fact that he begins as a grifter, the grifter carries through the campaign and then he almost teaches his supporters to follow in his grifter. The fact that they are now doing campaign ads from inside the courthouse so they can raise money not for down ballot republicans as the rnc would traditionally do, but rather for his own Legal Defense fund and then this thing with the oil executives, that it is not just about what hes doing as a candidate but what he imagines himself doing as president. In promoting a Legal Defense we know what he will do with the money. Hes not going to use, i think, any of the federal funds he gets or any of the funds going into the general rnc accounts to do any down ballot support. It is going to all be for trump, who will use it as he wishes and some of it undoubtedly will be used to pay the legal bills, like has been done already and i think this is generations of grafting coming home. Donald learned this from his father, fred. He taught his children how to follow in his path. He ran his business this way and the party is being run this way and then youve got, you know, a series of politicians from the party showing up at a criminal fraud trial to give him support then slagging the judge, going after the judges father, going after the Legal Process at a time when all the institutions are under fire already and then on top of it, part of this prosecution involves donald trump overtly and i dont think there is any doubt in the evidence, he had a relationship with an Adult Film Actor and mike johnson, who is a christian minister, is ignoring that to come up with his support so the grifter is financial, the grifters moral, it is legal, institutional and pervasive. Stephanie ruhle had an exclusive interview with senator romney. Take a listen. I think it is a terrible fought for our country to see people attacking our legal system. Thats an enormous mistake. I think it is also demeaning for people to quite apparently try to run for Vice President by donning a red tie and standing outside the courthouse. I wouldve felt awkward. In net, the chief stands alone as he so often does and what he is saying is right. Its about the undermining of the institutions and the fact that it is going to have a longer tail than donald trump himself. Its interesting, i was thinking about tim miller, who during the State Of The Union when the republican members of congress were pictured, they all looked like many trumps, sitting there in their two big suits with there too long red ties looking rather ridiculous and you see that now outside the courthouse, but what that says to me is that the Trump Takeover of one of our two major parties is basically complete. Laura trump is the normal share of the rnc. The rnc is a pretty boring administrative job if you talk to people who know about the inner workings of that place. They dont really think she is running it day today but nevertheless, the image of her, someone with no experience to do this, in charge of a major party is significant, and see all these people taking time off of work and coming there to kiss the ring, treating it basically like maralago or like trump tower or any other time in trumps political rise, it is pretty pathetic. Especially when you factor in the fact that every time he is on stage with people, he flirts with them and lets them think that maybe they are potentially on the Vice President list and when you listen to these guys, thats clearly part of the motivation. He is at heart a reality show star. He really took to that medium and helped define what that medium was in america and globally and that is how he has campaigned. Its how he has campaigned since the beginning of his political rise. What are you watching for tomorrow . I think todd blanche has about 10 seconds to get his reputation back intact because he gave a very poor Cross Examination of Michael Cohen and i think is he making it about himself . Not just about himself. He was not thematically coherent. He was bouncing around from topic to topic. He brought up all these names that Michael Cohen uses on social media, that i dont know the jury cares about. What the jury needs is a coherent narrative that breaks down Michael Cohens credibility and undermines him as a credible source of information and instead blanche jump from one attempted gotcha to another and he says you know, youre known as an attempted fixer and he said right knee said well are you fixing your problems or other peoples problems and then i call and said both or Something Like that and he just hopped onto the next point it didnt connect that to any points he was making. Trials, like campaigns, are about storytelling and the prosecution has presented a pretty clear narrative and so far theres not really a Counter Narrative being presented by the defense. You know, Michael Cohen would be an easy witness to fillet and you know, Supposedly Todd Blanche prepared months for this crossexamination and it just doesnt show. His voice is shaky. He looks uncomfortable in the other problem is that he has a client who does not want to do a proper crossexamination. He has a client who wants him to stand up there and destroy the witness and insult the witness and sort of carry trumps emotional water and that does not make for a good Cross Examination either. He has a client who is so problematic in so many ways. Olivia, tim, thanks for being with us. Coming up, as Donald Trumps criminal Election Interference Trial continues, could he face recrimination for using his toadies to get around the judges gag order. Et around the judges gag order. 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His daughter is making money. If trump is behind these attacks, how is this not a violation of his gag order. Joining me now, two people who have been closely covering the trial. Andrew rice is a contributing editor at new york agassi and we have an attorney and legal fellow. Help me understand the timeline of what it is you witnessed. You saw him annotating, making notes on the remarks. Yes, i mean, its hard to speculate exactly what was going on there but i will say after lunchtime on monday, as i noted in my new York Magazine article, trump was actually going through a printed out sheaf of papers that had quotes from individuals, including jd vance. If jd vance had been in the courtroom, one of the quotes said Something Like whats going on in this courtroom is a threat to american democracy. This, in fact, is something jd vance that outside the court. The timing of it was that the speech was given maybe an hour before trump was going through this. He was going through making notations. I think probably trying to figure out what kinds of things he might want to put on truth social later, perhaps. I dont know. The point is that everything that is happening in that courtroom is very coordinated. All the messaging is very coordinated. Almost like a Political Convention in which Convention Speeches happen, but no one says anything on the Convention Stage that the nominee doesnt want them to say. I think they are all explicating saying, talking points. There are things that donald trump would like to be saying if he didnt feel confined by this gag order. I am struck by the fact that some of those things are about the judge and about the judges family and those are strictly within the parameters of his gag order. Help me understand as a nonlawyer how this then does not violate the gag order. The court can suppose a situation like this where you have someone who is under a gag order and yet using proxies to say the things he wants to say. I think one of the complications here is that obviously donald trump is the criminal defend