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MSNBCW Morning July 2, 2024

Governor is calling a special legislative session to make sure President Biden will be on the ballot this fall. And louisiana will soon be the first state to classify apportion pills as controlled, dangerous substances. Well go through the legislation and its possible impact in novembers elections. Good morning. Welcome to morning joe. It is friday, may 24th. We made it to friday. It was in doubt there for a while. Thank goodness. Im jonathan lemire. Im alongside the bbcs katty kay. We are in for joe, mika, and willie. Good friday morning, katty. Yeah, news flash, donald trump knows how to put his trousers on. I think that is worth waiting for friday for. We now have that at least. I suppose we can put it in the appropriate context later, or we leave it out there like that and make people wonder just what he was talking about. Hanging, yeah. With us to dive into this important story, Pulitzer Prize winning columnist and Associate Editor of the washington post, and msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson. President emeritus on the council of foreign relations, richard haass. He is the author of the weekly newsletter home and away, available on substack. And you saw her host way too early, former aide to the george w. Bush white house and state departments, elise jordan. Great group this morning. Well start with a story that broke on the air this time last week. Louisville police chief says the department has taken corrective action against the officer who arrested world number one golfer Scottie Scheffler before the second round of the Pga Championship last friday. That as police have released new video of the incident. Nbcs correspondent Stephanie Gosk has more. Reporter Scottie Scheffler, the number one ranked golfer in the world, teeing off at ft. Worth. While back in louisville, kentucky, Police Released new video of his Early Morning arrest before the second round of the Pga Championship on friday. These silent images show schefflers car apparently being stopped by a Police Officer, who makes contact with it. An Unrelated Fatal Collision had taken place earlier. Traffic was blocked, and scheffler was trying to get to the country club. Police say this video is moments after an alleged assault took place against a detective. According to the arrest report, the golf pro tried to drive around traffic and was told to stop by police. It says scheffler refused to comply and accelerated forward, dragging a detective to the ground. That moment was not captured in the video. According to police, the detective suffered from pain, swelling, and abrasions, but the incident was blocked by a bus. He did not have his body camera on. Right now, right now he is going to jail. Reporter Louisville Police announced the detective, brian gillis, has been reprimanded for not turning on his camera. According to records provided by police to nbc news, he has been disciplined six times, including two suspensions for violating department policies. As for scheffler, his attorney responding to the video. All the evidence that continues to come out just continues to support what scottie said all along. This was a chaotic situation and a miscommunication. Reporter the golfer spoke out day of his arrest. Cant comment on specifics but my situation will be handled. It was just a big misunderstanding. Reporter scheffler is facing multiple charges, including assaulting a Police Officer and reckless driving. His lawyer says he will plead not guilty at the arraignment on june 3rd. The officer also reported that his pants were torn. Unable to be repaired after that incident. We have a lot of pants talk already this morning. Richard haass, our morning joe golf correspondent, we need to bring you in right away. Youve been following this story intimately. The video is tough to make out, but it certainly doesnt look like much of anything beyond a little bump, perhaps backing up schefflers version of events, that this was simply a chaotic misunderstanding. Youve been following it intimately. Jonathan, in this world we live in, with the crime levels that we have, the idea that this Police Department would be focusing on Scottie Scheffler, who is the most religious, straightlaced person in all of golf, over this kind of an incident, because the Police Officer got his trousers torn and, by the way, forgot to put on his body cam this is preposterous. Looks like the local prosecutors want to make names for themselves. When you saw the hearing, there was an argument over whether to postpone the arraignment, these were you know, 50 of all lawyers graduate in the bottom half of their class. This guy was beyond that. This seems to me to be local incompetence. If i was running the chamber of commerce, id be ticked off. If i was the mayor, when do you think the next Time Major League sports will go to louisville if they see this bush League Action . Lets bring in someone who graduated the top half of his class, we hope, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. I apologize. Danny, lets get to your analysis here of what youve heard so far in this case. So much going on. I am so glad you brought up the video of the hearing. That, to me, was my litmus test. I was already suspicious reading the police report, but once i saw the hearing, it really confirmed for me what were dealing with here. Lets start with just the polic, and the videos are helpful, but consider this. So the report goes from, Detective Gillis stopped subject and attempted to give instructions. Subject refused to comply and accelerated forward, dragging Detective Gillis. Wait a minute. At what point was the detective in contact with the car . That was left out. Ive read a lot of Police Reports in my time, and Police Officers are trained to write reports not all of them and not in a bad way but theyre trained to write them in a way that benefits them. The big question for me is, if he had run over the officer, that would have been in the report. If the officer had been standing in front of the car and he was struck by the car as he accelerated forward, that would have been in the report. Its when they leave things out. The question for me is, you were dragged . Wait a minute, at what point were you in contact with the vehicle . Did you grab at it after he was already pulling away and he didnt know you were doing that . That, to me, is problematic. Now, we go to the court hearing, and im so glad you watched that. You saw a 15minute argument over a routine Continuance Request. The attorneys for scheffler were saying, hey, we have a scheduling issue. Can we do this in june, on june 3rd . Not late august, not november, not christmas. They wanted a several day continuance, and the d. A. Was arguing against it. Number one, the key for me is that they were saying, Everyone Needs to be treated the same. Hes not special. That kind of language gave me pause because, again, were talking about a Continuance Request of a few days. The second thing is, in that 15minute hearing, the d. A. Crowbared in that Scott Scheffler traveled by private jet. Oh. If that is not completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not there is a Continuance Request. Ive never heard that raised in any normal hearing. Listen, we have a scheduling conflict. Yes, but the defendant has a private jet. Lots of problems. Its like a private jet discrimination, you know, just outrageous. We often say celebrities get Special Treatment, and thats a fair argument. Go back to o. J. , there are plenty of examples of celebrities getting Special Treatment in courtrooms. Sometimes celebrities get Hyperfocused Treatment from prosecutors. Ive pointed many times to the alec baldwin rust case, which i think is a case of prosecutors in a small town wanting to put a trophy on their wall. Right away in this case, ive seen no less than two, maybe three indicators that the same thing is going on. Certainly, eugene robinson, there was accusations of Special Treatment when scheffler was on his tee time, just two hours after being arrested. Saying, that wouldnt happen for most people. The more we learn about this case and, lets be clear, were only learning about it because he is a Celebrity Athlete but it seems like, even in this small moment, it speaks to a larger point about police and now perhaps prosecutorial overreaction. Yeah, and i love it that the world of golf, right, not exactly, you know, the Paris Commune, right . It is ablaze with this fervor over Civil Liberties and police overreach. I think that is amusing. Its a good thing, you know . Yes, lets take a look, golfers, at what the police are doing out there, and maybe we need some reforms. Yeah, but im very glad to see the Paris Commune is still defending private jets, which is a good thing. Exact. I think the world is not totally turned upside down. Now, the race for the white house. I wish i had a better segue. Donald trumps rally in new york city last night. After spending weeks in Lower Manhattan for his criminal hush money trial, trump traveled uptown to the bronx yesterday to make his pitch to an area of predominantly black and latino voters. There, trump claimed that the remaining israeli hostages in gaza, whom he said are probably dead of course, we dont know that would still be alive if the 2020 election hadnt been stolen from him. He also claimed migrants were overtaking public spaces while speaking from a public park. Many of the hostages that youre waiting for, and everybody is waiting for, those hostages, many of them are dead. Many of them are dead. And it is a horrible thing. Its a horrible thing, but many of those hostages are dead. Some will be alive, but many of those hostages are dead. It is a very serious, horrible thing. It would have never happened if the election werent rigged. Right now, you dont have public spaces. Theyre occupied by migrants in tents. Theyre coming from so many places. We dont have any idea. In many cases, we dont even know what the language you know, you have languages people dont even know about. Were not talking about just South America countries. Were talking about countries from africa. I think theyre building an army there. 29,000 people over the last i think theyre building they want to get us from within. I think theyre building an army. This is not you know, it is interesting. Did you see them . They all have tents. They all have gasfired stoves. I mean, this is not like an illegal immigrant. Theyre building something. They have something in mind. They cannot stay. We will immediately begin the largest criminal deportation operation in our countrys history. Interesting to hear the cheers from the crowd there, john. We should point out, you know, there were some the permit had gone in for Something Like 7,000 people. The Trump Campaign is claiming that they had more like 30,000. We havent heard of any violations of that Permit Requests for 7,000 yet, so that is probably more like the number. But he did manage to bring in hispanic and black people from the area into that rally. Size may not have been as big as the campaign is saying. Yeah, itd be the first time trump ever exaggerated about crowd size. Not a thing he does. Never happened before. Yes, he drew a sizable crowd to a deep blue part of new york city. If it is 7,000 or so, the bronx had a population of 1. 4 million. It is a small percentage of people who showed up for donald trump. First, it is trump mostly attached to new york city because of the criminal trial, though its been on hiatus for a couple days, but thats why he is in new york and events. The campaign is trying to woo black and latino voters, and at this point, they can say theyre having a little success. Tell us what you think of what hes saying. Is this something that is going to translate into votes in november, or is this just sort of a dissatisfaction of the choices . Maybe some black and latino voters are not happy with joe biden and are casting about, looking at trump, third candidates, but will eventually come home . Look, there are a lot of voters across the country, all kinds of voters, who are not thrilled with the voice they have this fall. That said, i think this is more a matter of people coming into the bronx from elsewhere and people in the bronx who were kind of curious at the spectacle. New yorkers love a show. He puts on a show. In terms of what he is saying, What In The World is he saying . Hes talk about his pants. Hes talking about all this ridiculous stuff. It is somewhat entertaining, but, you know, it sounds to me i was looking around last night to try to figure out how many people actually showed up. It seems to really be in the low single digit thousands. Maybe not 7,000 from the sources i was looking at. Maybe fewer than that. This is kind of a blip. It is a demonstration project. Hes trying to show, i guess, that hes getting some love from from time to times and latinos. I just dont think this is necessarily going to play one way or the other on the larger canvas of the electorate. I dont see a big deal. Gene makes the point that there wasnt really the crowd that probably trump had hoped for. Doesnt really seem to be the energy either. You know, the trump show back in 2016, it was something that you tuned into a little bit because it was so freaky. Now, he has lost his ability to shock because hes said so many horrible things by now, he is running low on material. These big events that, you know, previously he could command a news cycle with, he says a couple insane things and then it just drops. Speaking of one of the insane things hes said lately, certainly an incendiary claim. Donald trump is now trying to fundraise off a false accusation that suggests that President Biden authorized his assassination during a search of his maralago estate in palm beach florida. Trump sent out an email yesterday with this subject line, bidens doj was authorized to shoot me. Trump and his allies have pointed to a recently unsealed court filing which describes a Policy Statement outlining the Standard Operating Procedure by which the fbi is authorized to use deadly force if deemed necessary during any situation when a Search Warrant is indeed executed. It was not unique to the fbis search of his maralago property, and it is actually intended to limit the use of deadly force. Attorney general Merrick Garland yesterday called trumps allegation extremely dangerous. That allegation is false, and it is extremely dangerous. The document that is being referred to in the allegation is a Justice Department standard policy limiting the use of force. As the fbi advises, it is part of a standard Operations Plan for searches, in fact, it was even used in the consensual search of President Bidens home. The attorney general there makes a good point. President bidens home, the same standard applied. Richard haass, obviously, you worked in government for quite some time. Youre familiar with such things, but this seems like a very dangerous accusation. Were used to donald trump saying things that are inflammatory, but this one seems potential for real problems. What i find the most dangerous about it is it once again mainstreams or normalizes Political Violence. What this is part of is this larger message with his supporters. If he can say the president was prepared to kill him, as preposterous as that is, in some ways, jonathan, that empowers his supporters to go out and use force on behalf of trump and his cause. That, to me, is whats so pernicious about this. It reinforces the idea that Political Violence is somehow permitted. Its now entered the american mainstream. That is what is truly dangerous about this. The criminal Justice System is full of boilerplate language. We cut and paste and cut and paste from documents all the time. This can be something thats already on a form, or it can be something that is literally just highlighted, cut, and pasted into another document. This is part of the dojs justice manual. This is part of what they use in language all the time. I am so accustomed to seeing this boilerplate language that my eye usually skips right over it. So this is not something that is unusual. It is something that appears, as Merrick Garland said, as standard language, so it is not something to be interpreted as some kind of authorization to use deadly force, especially because it is so standardized. Its the kind of thing nobody would have noticed, but trump seized on it. Whether in federal or state criminal court, forms are such a part of daily life that, usually, we end up referring to them by their numbers, not even by the form itself. In federal court, it is a 302. In state court, it might be something else. But this is not unusual. Criminal justice, unfortunately, is a word of forms. Katty, what is also not unusual is that an incendiary claim ma

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