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MSNBCW Dateline July 2, 2024

Stories. Where are you hiding . It started as a teen romance. Two of my girlfriends are like theres a guy. Youve got to meet him. A deadly attack in the dark of night. His mother murdered. I realized that last conversation i had with her, that was it. His father, bruised and bewildered. I dont remember Anything Else. Was it a robbery or was it something much darker . You were 11 years old when your mother disappeared . A missing woman, a murdered woman, and alive. I could barely stomach to finish it. Welcome to dateline. Shannon palmer and Eric Candelario were young and engaged to be married, but their family rocked by scandal then murder. But his confusing story had Police Questioning his version of events. Heres Keith Morrison with tangled. Cant put words to that. It wwas very surreal. 911, where is your emergency . Its true the old saying when you marry someone, you marry their family too. We need an ambulance. It e looks like hes been shot. He said someone broke in last night. Him and his wife both. It is not a bad thing to turn to mom or dad for advice, counsel. It is unreal and sometimes you think it didnt happen, but it really did. Reporter it is with their help and support after all that true love could beat them and grow at last. I twatched the Crime Scene Shows on tv. I never ever thought that oh, thats going to be my life. Yes. It really is all about family. The desert opens up near pueblo, colorado, 100 miles south of denver. Among the highest of the nations desert. A little closer to heaven, perhaps . This is where shannon palmers mom and Thdad Set Out to create good, safe, holy life for their daughters. Far from the risks and the temp rations of the city. It was awesome. Got to grow up with horses, dogs everywhere, chickens. S. Reporter shannon and her sister, kelsey, went to home. And twas their teacher. I loved it. I dont think i would miss out on the aspect of the education. Reporter there were strict guidelines, of course, about belief, family, e,marriage, sex and lythey learned members who commit adultery or who divorce can be cast out, shunned. Shannon and t,kelseys dad, jerry, didnt share the faith, but respected paths, though he was never fan of the home schooling. He wanted them to go to public schools, but pam wouldnt have it. She always wanted us to be this tall and be her little girls. She genuinely loved us. Reporter but finally when it was time for high school, oo pam relented. I think she realized you cant control an environmental for a child forever though. What ilwas it like to make t transition . It was a culture shock. It was different. I was there maybe a week and my new wefriends are like lets educate you on the ways of the world and i was like oh my gosh. Reporter which included boys. Two of my girlfriends were like there is this guy and we think youll get along. The guy was Eric Candelario. I was in love, yes. We had such a connection. No kidding. Both jehovah witnesses, both home schooled by their mothers or at least aaron was home schooled until his parents marriage broke up. We were drawn together that two people were so driven and optimistic and wanted to do big things in life. So after high school they got engaged. Full of excitement, planned the wedding. Then one night shannons ig mother, pam, sent the girls off to bible study and told their father, jerry, they needed to talk. She looked up and said i dont want to be married to you anymore, i dont want to be here. Everything was fine, fine, fine . Everything was fine. She said this is it. What did that feel like . I was crushed. Reporter these two were both products of broken homes. The wedding day approached when shannons mother, pam, and aaron invited ralph. So some premarital guidance perhaps . Oh tano. Nothing like that. They told us we ran off, eloped, we got married. Wait, what . Your mother and aarons father . Yes. Who does that . I dont know, but i cant tell you how it felt i was hit by a bus . You were marrying your stepbrother . I didnt say much. I was just like well, were leaving. Suddenly jerry realized how blind hed been. You dont understand. But then dafterwards it all, a the pieces fell apart . I trusted her. Dont we do that in a relationship . No trust now. Shannon and aaron were furious. Told the elopers to stay away from the wedding, but they couldnt pretend it had not happened. When they hit the little bumps, did her father and your mothers relationship have anything to do with what happened with you and shannon . We were h determined not to let their relationship have an affect. But you know, its always something in the back of your head. Reporter after a year and a half, shannon and aaron divorced. They moved into a big house on the corner lot, an old coal mining town about 50 miles south of pueblo. They opened up an antiques mall in the center of town. And then bought a Vacation Home in oregon. That was the happiest id ever remember seeing her. For nearly three years, shannon still rarely spoke to her mom. But then sone day pam asked he to lunch. She was so focused on wanting me to know we had a future together, her and i. So she was trying to. I told her and said i cant handle you being my mother and doing what you did, but i want to be your friend, and i want to try this. This was a Breakthrough Lunch . Yeah. Or a beginning at least. Then just ina few days later. I was at work and i see aarons name pop up on my phone. He said you know what, something happened and my dad is being rushed to the hospital and they cant find your mom, but i think someone is dead. Who is dead . Coming up. He keeps telling me to go help her. When. Full 24 hour and prevents future flareups. Trelegy also improves Lung Function, so i can breathe more freely all day and night. Trelegy wont replace a Rescue Inhaler for sudden breathing problems. 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Reporter finally he managed to get the words out. He and his wife had been attacked and robbed. He looks like hes been shot. He said someone broke him last night, him and his wife both. How are they doing . Hes not good. Crying, and he keeps telling me to go help her, shes in the kitchen. Im going to have my neighbor help me here. Ralph, were going to help you. Hang. The police arrived, went into the house with gun drawns. There in the entrance of the kippen laid pam candelario. I knew she was dead when the ambulance showed up because they didnt go into the house. They just stayed in, were working on ralph. Reporter ralph wasnt shocked, but he was hurt, and he was air lifted to the nearest hospital trauma. He knew it was not equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. You have small departments, you dont have murder cups. No. You dont have forensic professionals on staff. So by the time shannon arrived at the hospital looking for her mother, an agent of the Colorado Bureau of investigation was there to meet her along with aaron. How did she take it . About as well as anybody could get hit by a sludge hammer, whatever. First youre kind of shocked, then a little denial. Suddenly i realized that last conversation i had with her was it. It no fresh start start now. Her mother was dead. And then shannon saw ralph. And he lost it. Ralphs face was banged up with bruises in several places, confused like a man coming out of a concussion. Im just exhausted. My head still hurts. And ralph talked to agents of the cbi. Sorry about your loss. Its been a horrible day. He got up to use the bathroom in the middle of the night and decided to go downstairs to make sure the Wood Burning Stove was still lit. But on his way he said somebody hit him from behind and then from the side. I put my arm up and boom, i mean it just hit me like a ton of bricks. It hit me hard, you know i couldnt see anymore. I dont remember Anything Else than waking up in the morning. Ralph tried to sit up. I looked down the hallway. I could see her legs. Revealed by the first warming sun. There was blood on the floor and i ran out of the house. And that is when he saw his neighbor and yelled for help. But who did it . Robbers or someone else . Normally youre always going to look to the closest people. But in this case, ralph was also a victim and wanted to help find the killer or killers. He was very cooperative to the next one, jerry palmer. No secret jerry and pam did not get along after the divorce. A divorce, which by the way, she asked him to file since as a jehovahs witness, she wasnt allowed to. So then you filed for divorce . I filed for divorce. And now the police were calling. I told them i would be more than happy to talk to them. I said in about six hours, if you can be here to talk to me. Nebraska, jerry had moved far away, which cleared him for sure. Of course they need to look at shannon and aaron too they were cleared immediately. There was no one. The crime scene people found some things mind you. Including a bloody fireplace that turned out to be the murder weapon. The marking on her head was the exact replica of the shape of the fire poker, the end of the poker. And they cataloged everything they found. Broken glass in the back door. They even took the knobs off drawers and sent them to the lab hoping they left dna or fingerprint on them. Then they came through it all. I thought i had a little version of the Pentagon Papers in a way. Coming up, a letter that has everyone in town talking. I remember no, it did say that when dateline continues. Her uncles unhappy. Im sensing an underlying issue. Its tmobile. It started when we tried to get him under a new plan. But they they unexpectedly unraveled their price lock guarantee. Which has made him, a bit. Unruly. You called yourself the uncarrier. You sing about price lock on those commercials. the price lock, the price lock. so, if you could change the price, change the name its not a lock, i know a lock. So how can we undo the damage . We could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. Their connection is unreal. And we could all unexperience this whole session. Okay, thats uncalled for. Shell renewable race fuel. Reducing emissions by 60 . Were moving forward with indycar. Because were moving forward with everybody. Shell. Powering progress. Keith morrison its a grand name, perhaps, shell. For a weekly paper in and outoftheway little town, the huerfano World Journal. Its Tya Grand Name perhaps for the weekly paper. The where to know World Journal. And thriving coal mines offered promise. Now . Antique stores like pams and ralphs fill the gaps. In all small towns there is nothing else to sell. And no surprise as it was a very big deal and for the whole town. People like the neighbors. I was afraid. I didnt want to go to my paint class because i was afraid to be out. A lot of neighbors told me and i wanted to protect myself. The house was filled with treasure. Some of which were missing as ralph told police during the video tape tour. Okay. Reporter they have been about to leave on vacation, so maybe the intruders thought they were gone and they were surprised to find them at home. But who . As they supplied a possible lead. They brought up individual names that he believes were involved in this homicide. Ramon barrels, drug user, both had rap sheets. And one informant said ramon was trying to sell jewelry . Yeah. Pams daughter, shannon, found herself blaming ralph for not preventing what happened. I was angry at him like why didnt you protect my mother . And right then the biggest scoop of eric mullens career landed in the map of the world journey. Ive seen a lot of things walk in the newsroom, but i had never seen anything like this. Reporter in through the front door marched Ralph Candelario with an open letter to the whole town. Him explaining what he could remember after he had been treated up in pueblo for his injury and interviewed by the cbi. This is my story, this is what happened to me. To whom it may concern, he began, and including the typos as they appeared in his letter. His memory was coming back. He wanted to explain and maybe shannon was right, he felt guilty. I am angry at myself for not finding a way to do more or just getting myself killed too. And now he wrote he had an image of who his attackers were. I got a glimpse of that person, a tall dark man with yellow glasses, short curly hair, wide nose, large lips, and marks on the sides of his face. The tall guy was talking on the phone in spanish, he said. One of the two felons the tipsters called out, hard to know. But one of them knocked him out he wrote and one he came to, there was pam, but not dead as had first told police. He said she was still alive. She started to convulse and i held her hand for just a couple of minutes, and she just went quiet. I yelled at her again and just started crying. And then the two men returned. I just broke down, i was crying, and i was cold, and i was freaked out. Pam was there with me just a few feet away. Things took a turn for the worst, he wrote. Then he pointed his gun at me and fired. It just clicked. I cant fully say what happened to me at this point. In fact he was so scared he had soiled his pajamas. He wrote his ordeal began when he and pam went to bed on tuesday night, not wednesday he originally thought, and lasted nearly two days. He woke up on thursday morning. I thought my nightmare was over, but i looked down the hall and i could see pams legs in the kitchen. Thats when he ran out of the house and found his neighbor who called 911. Of course, the World Journal pointed all that though police werent too happy about that. Picking it back up again. But remarkable as ralphs letter was, it still wasnt the whole story. A few weeks after the murder, he mustard up the courage and told police. He asked to go to the restroom and he was sexually assaulted in the bathroom. Why didnt he say anything about that before . His explanation was he was embarrassed. And it might be a little bit difficult to talk about, but the smallest details could be very important. He agreed to show the investigators exactly what happened and where. He grabbed me with the other hand on my hip right here. And, um, he proceeded to assault me. So that was a whole awful story. But if ralph thought sharing his more detailed recollections would clear the air, he was wrong. What did you think when you saw it . I was pretty blown away by what was written. Coming up, back at home with detectives, ralph gets his own surprise. What happened to all the knobs . He was very upset they were missing. When dateline continues. Is she . 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