Switch to reliable Comcast Business Internet with security and get started for 49. 99 a month. Plus ask how to get up to a 500 prepaid card. Call today good day, im Ali Vitali on this very busy Labor Day as Joe Biden lends the Bully Pulpit and his credentials to his Vice PresidentKamala Harris. This show of support coming after a Situation Room Meeting this morning following the deaths of six In Gaza including Hersh Goldberg Pollin. But Today Union joe returns to his Labor Day stomp grounds. Celebrating unions in pittsburgh at the first joint Campaign Deal with paris since he choose to leave the race. And it marks a key date. Considered the start of the fourth quarter of the president ial campaign season. When most voters start to tune in. But with harris, a recent walkon, democrats see Union Members as a mobilize force in blue states like pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan and the president is expected to visit those states this week. The Harris Campaign is hitting all three in one day with harris starting this hour in detroit. She takes stage in about 30 minute with two of the most prominent labor leaders, sean Fain And Randy wine garden, the head of the federation of teachers. And that is where we begin today with Maura Barrett who is in detroit and Mike Memoli out in pittsburgh. Maura, first to you. How is harriss appeal to Union Workers different or the same as President Biden. Vice president harris is looking to harness on to the strength as what you referred to as union joes power. Were hearing from the campaign that theyre looking to remind Voters Today as they put that theyre administration was the most prounion in history and a white House Official laying out the work that the harris had done on Bargaining Rights and organizing for federal workers and that is what were going to see Vice President harris lean into today. She posted on Social Media honoring those that worked in labe and that she will stand with the middle class and when they are strong, america is strong. Vice president ial candidate Tim Walz posting a similar message as a former educator himself, that emphasis on their relationship with the middle class and how they could bring that to american voters. Here at the event here in detroit, you mentioned were expecting to hear from the president of the American Federation Of Teachers and theyre announcing a massive Bus Tour in support of getting out the vote for the harriswalz campaign. Focusing on investing in good public education and affordable Housing And FightingPrice Gouging all things people brought up to me today in addition to the work on reproductive rights as she makes her first stop of a big blitz across the Labor Day holiday. Got to be a lot of Bus Tours if the last 60 someodd days. I know this is a tradition for President Biden, where he did Test Runs for the 2016 and 2020 Campaign But Today hes there in a completely new Role Tumping for his Vice President. What is that going to look like . Reporter well good to be with you. I have a feeling you would rather be out here with us on the came trail. Yeah. But someone has to hold down the fort back home. And you think about the history President Biden has with this pittsburgh Labor Day parade alone. It was 2008, i was here when he was supposed to march in the parade. The very first Solo Campaign Eent he was holding as a member of the new obamabiden ticket. And then in 2015, about whether he would run in 2016, he was here to chants of run, joe, Run And Ahe came back with Hillary Clintons pick to vouch for his Union Bonafides and then in 2018 he came here as a Test Run of his 2020 candidacy. So we see him here today in a different Test Runch this is the beginning of the final campaign for President Biden as hes going to make the case not just for Kamala Harris to succeed him as President Of The United States but delay the groundwork for his legacy and this is an important role for the Harris Campaign, because you talked about it. The core political constituency, you talk about black voters an the middle Class Family like his in scranton an the other pillar is the Union Vote and that is where the Harris Campaign thinks he could be an important player in the campaign and that is why hell be here today and in michigan and wisconsin later this week. And when there was a lot of calls for President Biden to get out of the 2024 race, some of those calls for him to remain in the race or to support him if he was to stay in the race were strongest among Union Voters. So, youll see self of the passing of the torch moments when we sue them on stage here. I think the role that biden has plays is a validator for someone else, for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in 2016 and well see it now debuting today for Kamala Harris. Certainly that role of a validator is one that is going to feature heavily in the Legacy Phase that were entering and i know youre tracking so closely. Maura and mike, thank you so much. And joining me now, Sewn Ore Political analyst Matthew Dowd and a chief strategist for the bushcheney campaign. And don calaway, host of the Caucus Room Podcast and founder of the Voter Protection Action fund. There is no major Post Convention Polling bump for harris. Strategists are okay with that given the fact that they want this to look like a 50 50 race and they want to spin it their the underdog. But harriss lead over trump is outside of the margin of error, only one if ten u. S. Workers are Union Members but that ratio shrinks to one to five in Swing States so how crucial are Union Voters to get out the vote as part of the harriswalz coalition, don . Theyre crucial. Theyre not just voters but Union Voters tend to be among the more politically engaged. If you have boots on an ground and knocking on doors and making Phone Calls and the map is different than Joe Biden is that it doesnt rely on the Upper Midwest and Blue Wall. Shes looking also at the sun belt. So nevada, arizona, North Carolina and georgia, and you cannot concede the Blue Wall which is pretty much on a democratic constituency, determined by how active Labor Unions decide to be, both public and private sector. So shes not conceding that territory and wee see that where shes spending her Labor Day. And you make a good point, and i want to come back to the map while we stay on this idea of Union Members and business leaders, matthew. Where is the difference there when it comes to how theyre reacting to vp harris at the top of ticket and where in your view do her proworker policies different from bidens or dont they . Is she just carrying that mantel . Second question first, i dont think is much difference between the two. I think it is a continuation of what Joe Biden has pushed for his entire life, the support of unions an the strength of workers and the raising the minimum wage and a living wage, all of those the Vice President supports in this. So, i think that is where she is on that and that is the benefit. The interesting thing about the coalition shes attempting to build and building in this, is she has both Union Workers and workers behind her, but most of the Fortune 500 is very reluctant to support Donald Trump in this. Most of the Business Community realized that a stable leadership is better for them. So they could have a coalition that is probusiness, because they want Stability And Prowork simultaneously. And Donald Trump has rich folks from very wealthy folks that think theyll get a benefit from his presidency. Ant we saw some of the folks trying to find a different avenue in the gop primary, whether it was briefly with tim Scott Or Nikki haley and some of them ended up coming back home to trump. I think one of the things that the Trump Campaign is trying to do is ensure that some of the Union Workers will come home to them again. Theyve had success in 2016 and in 2020 in some of the critical states so could they again if 2024 . Well, this is a race that is decided by three or four points so any margin on any community of any subset of the electorate is important. So it is not only Union Members, it is if Donald Trump tries to shave off 3 or 4 , that could have a profound effect in a race that is only decided about i a few thousand votes spread across 7 states as don said. Yes, it is important. Although i think she has much better benefit than Joe Biden did because she has an Enthusiasm Advantage over Donald Trump right now that Joe Biden didnt have and that is true even among Union Workers. It is a fascinating, this dynamic around carrying enthusiasm. But it is a question of speaking to issues that voters say are important to them. Among them are reproductive Health Care. Trump is vocal about sending it back to state and he was saying that the Florida Sixweek Ban was too short and then said that he would uphold that ban in florida and signals his support to legalize recreational marijuana in florida. Conservators oppose both of those positions. So how does the Trump Team Bridge that gap and do they need to . They need to bridge the gap. But ive been trying to make this point for some time now. Over the last ten years Donald Trump has not been held to a standard where hes had to articulate positions and as a result he has Campaign Staff who dont know how to pivot, who dont know how to cobble together substantive positions that you need to pull together the loosely based coalition to win a president ial election. Donald trump thus far in his career has been allowed to name call and really engage in a lot of bombastic behavior to win elections but with most shticks, the jig is up and wheeze seen that manifest with his Abortion Position whether hes in a whirlwind and didnt know what to did and now it is in the Marijuana Stuff but hes not had to had substantive and executable ideas and he cant do so in the serious way in the next 60 days. I think ive seen this on abortion with trump back from the time that i was covering him in 2015 and he got over his skis at one point where he was saying that he thought women shed be punished for accessing abortion. That was way out of step with where the Party Platform was even at that time. So now that you see him trying to have it a few different ways on this position, is proud to overturn roe and now sending it back to state and muddying water around ivf. What does that tell you about the importance of this issue and the way that the Trump Team is thinking about it. Well, this is the problem to add on what don just said, this is a problem when youre not a principaled conservative with a substantive stand on certain issues when you know how to speak to them and know how to relate to them when they become complicated. As you know, ali, Donald Trump has had multiple stance on choice. Hes been prochoice and all of different things. He doesnt have a Principaled Stand on this. So when you have a series of backers that join a cult of personality with someone who has no principled stance, ub get in this free for all and Word Salad that Donald Trump speaks on and has to retract as weve seen in the last 72 hours because he doesnt know how and hasnt thought about this issue in a way that is able to be substantive and principaled. And the reality here too, issine though the rhetorical stance may be shifting and changing over the years there is a body of work and a Track Record in terms of the kind of justices that he put on the court and the way in which that had major implications across the country on this issue of reproductive Health Care access. Thank you for spending part of your monday with us. And were keeping our eyes right now on detroit where harris is due to speak at any moment now. Well bring you those remarks as soon as they get underway. Plus what Donald Trump is now saying about Election Interference. 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